single plant trash can grow

This system design is intriguing. I have a cool roomy that does not care if I grow, but still like to keep it contained. Your system is definitely stealth in that it can be set up about anywhere. Watching this one with great interest.

BTW, the wood "bench" idea for the the can to sit on seems like a very practical thing. I have an ebb and flow system and it is hard to change out the res. The flood table sits on top of it.

Ever think of using a cooler as your res? They are stronger than any tote and pretty cheap. Also, they are insulated.

Church Man,,get a 18 gal.use 1/2 inch pvc to pipe in your sprinkler.1 or 2 elbows are all u need off the pump.I use a 360gph pump,then sit the barrel on top. Mark where your drain comes out and cut a hole.With the pump in the center,cut a 1/2 in.hole and plumb in your pump.On the end away from cut a4 by 4 hole.(only on 3 sides)to fill pump.That`s it in a nut shell......Later on Dude.

If I`m not very bad mistaken,the blubs that your using have an inturnal (sorry about spellin)ballast.If I`m right ,dont worry about fire,the blubs will blow at about 100 degrees.They then have to be replaced.The whole blub.Frame an all..GL

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>Drifter126

i thank you for your effort to help me out with my reservoir situation and the information about the lightbulbs.

For my reservoir I am already using a water pump that suits my one plant's needs. this pump pushes water up through plastic tubing into the bottom of the can through a drain hole. right now i have this tubing arranged in a circular drip line that has **newly been covered in the grow rocks at a depth of one inch to eliminate the possibility of algae (thanks nikk and tom)**

when water levels are just right the water drains out of the bottom of the can and back into the res. i think this method works well and i feel that it can only be improved by this "bench" idea.


my light bulbs are (6) two foot linear fluoro's, 4100K, 4800 Lumens each. they are all wired to (3) ballasts, at two per ballast. the ballasts are externally mounted around the trash can. i don't know at what temperature my bulbs will explode but either way each bulb is inside of a clear plastic tube.

i think maybe you should go back to the beginning of the thread and look at the pictures.



>klmmicro

i love my can. its pretty sweet and i highly recommend this design to anybody. the link at the beginning of this thread is where i got the idea. That guy did this same thing but he ran in a custom soil mix and grew drainless... i'm thinking that soil may have been easier for my first grow but what the hell i took the plunge to hydro. serioulsy though... most of my time with this thing has been with the resevoir, the drains, and the crazy pH fluctuations i had when i started my water flow...

Sorry I couldn`t see the outside that well.I didn`t see the ballasts.And two 4 U the frame would better.I just can`t remember the name of those lights.They were bought one of the local hardware stores.They worked like a charm tho.........just went back and blew the pic up...my bad ....Still one hell of a job...i like it..i like..it.

thanks drifter i'm hoping for the best


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i've moved the can into its final resting place. if all goes well i won't even have to move it at all once i get this bench thing constructed.



my reservoir (i thought that word looked funny yesterday and realized that i had been spelling it wrong) has given me grief the last week. first it cracked when i tried drilling a hole it. i got this patched up using epoxy. then i kept on having to mess with the res after i had put it under the can, which is no easy task alone. the two drains under the can have tubing that has to be directed into holes cut into the top of the res. haha all of that while holding the can up with my other hand...

i thought that i was done and finished with dealing with the res but then when the watering cycle turned on i noticed the sound of dripping....which i shouldn't be hearing. it turns out that one the drains i'm using isn't watertight anymore (i'm not sure what changed to cause this). it was dripping onto the lid of the res and from there onto the floor. at this point i was tired of dealing with the epoxy so i made a funnel from a gallon container for the water to drip into. that funnel is the best part of the whole system i think


here's an update on the external water level indicator. hahaha that name still makes me laugh.... here it is





i like this thing a lot. it makes testing my water a breeze now that i don't have to mess with the can anymore...



i added one 6500K cfl just because i have it and it certainly won't hurt




i've decided to top and revert to veg to let it grow a bit. i'm scared shitless of doing this but the only way i learn is through experience. lastnight, after topping, i switched from 12/12 to 21/3 ( i hope this was okay) and also yesterday i dumped out the res and filled it with veg formula (recommended is 15-10-5 but i did more like 12-8-4)

the reason that i decided to top is because i figured i didn't have anything to lose. this plant was always a little behind its sisters. so i figured i'd try this and see how it goes. if it doesn't work then i'll throw an indica seedling in there.

here is a couple of photos for reference. these seeds are from the same batch and sprouted on the same day.

here's mine in the can


here's another the same exact age and genetics also under fluorescents



i'm sure you can see the differences. this huge difference in vegetative growth disappointed me.


i read the whole thread on uncle ben's technique (saw you there nikk) and it seems like a legitimate thing to do. and i figure that my plant isn't looking as good as her sisters so i'll try this.

the plant in the can was in the process of developing the seventh leaf set. so, per instructions from uncle ben, i made my incision above the second true node.

BEFORE


AFTER




i know it looks gruesome to see that much taken off but i believe that there will be a bounce back.






the top that i cut off i attempted to prepare to clone. i stripped of the leaf set above the cut, made some scratches on the stem (supposedly encourages root development), dipped it in water then a moistened rockwool. i also cut some of the bigger fan leaves back a little bit ( i later learned that this was probably not the thing to do.... oh well). the cutting was placed in this little hydro dome that i bought for fifteen bucks at a local shop, underneath a cfl.






here is the cutting next to the indica seed that i've waiting to sprout. i figure if the plant dies i'll plant the clone. if the clone dies i'll plant the seedling. if the seedling doesn't sprout then i'm fucked and i'll just go hide in my hole...




i'm trying to mainain a high relative humidity by spraying the cutting often and ensuring that the dome is saturated as well. there is so much information on cloning that is incorrect. its difficult to decide if the information you gather is worth listening to. can anyone give me some pointers for next time? i don't have the gel all that i really have is this dome...

also... how do you guys germinate and sprout your little ones? i'm interested in hearing the different methods that people have for doing this. i've done the paper towel method and the "just stick them in a glass of water" method. i'm thinking about just sticking the seeds into the rockwool and waiting next time.

watering frequency for my cutting and the little seedling that hasn't sprouted? suggestions?

should the nutrient and watering regimen for the plant that was topped stay the same? i haven't changed it at all.


this one's for you nikk



my bro got that for me when he went to cuba a couple years back.


let me know what's up!

the church man said:

thanks drifter i'm hoping for the best


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i've moved the can into its final resting place. if all goes well i won't even have to move it at all once i get this bench thing constructed.

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my reservoir (i thought that word looked funny yesterday and realized that i had been spelling it wrong) has given me grief the last week. first it cracked when i tried drilling a hole it. i got this patched up using epoxy. then i kept on having to mess with the res after i had put it under the can, which is no easy task alone. the two drains under the can have tubing that has to be directed into holes cut into the top of the res. haha all of that while holding the can up with my other hand...

i thought that i was done and finished with dealing with the res but then when the watering cycle turned on i noticed the sound of dripping....which i shouldn't be hearing. it turns out that one the drains i'm using isn't watertight anymore (i'm not sure what changed to cause this). it was dripping onto the lid of the res and from there onto the floor. at this point i was tired of dealing with the epoxy so i made a funnel from a gallon container for the water to drip into. that funnel is the best part of the whole system i think


here's an update on the external water level indicator. hahaha that name still makes me laugh.... here it is

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i like this thing a lot. it makes testing my water a breeze now that i don't have to mess with the can anymore...



i added one 6500K cfl just because i have it and it certainly won't hurt

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i've decided to top and revert to veg to let it grow a bit. i'm scared shitless of doing this but the only way i learn is through experience. lastnight, after topping, i switched from 12/12 to 21/3 ( i hope this was okay) and also yesterday i dumped out the res and filled it with veg formula (recommended is 15-10-5 but i did more like 12-8-4)

the reason that i decided to top is because i figured i didn't have anything to lose. this plant was always a little behind its sisters. so i figured i'd try this and see how it goes. if it doesn't work then i'll throw an indica seedling in there.

here is a couple of photos for reference. these seeds are from the same batch and sprouted on the same day.

here's mine in the can
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here's another the same exact age and genetics

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i'm sure you can see the differences. this huge difference in vegetative growth disappointed me.


i read the whole thread on uncle ben's technique (saw you there nikk) and it seems like a legitimate thing to do. and i figure that my plant isn't looking as good as her sisters so i'll try this.

the plant in the can was in the process of developing the seventh leaf set. so, per instructions from uncle ben, i made my incision above the second true node.

BEFORE
View attachment 592875

AFTER
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i know it looks gruesome to see that much taken off but i believe that there will be a bounce back.

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View attachment 592865


the top that i cut off i attempted to prepare to clone. i stripped of the leaf set above the cut, made some scratches on the stem (supposedly encourages root development), dipped it in water then a moistened rockwool. i also cut some of the bigger fan leaves back a little bit ( i later learned that this was probably not the thing to do.... oh well). the cutting was placed in this little hydro dome that i bought for fifteen bucks at a local shop, underneath a cfl.

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here is the cutting next to the indica seed that i've waiting to sprout. i figure if the plant dies i'll plant the clone. if the clone dies i'll plant the seedling. if the seedling doesn't sprout then i'm fucked and i'll just go hide in my hole...

View attachment 592906


i'm trying to mainain a high relative humidity by spraying the cutting often and ensuring that the dome is saturated as well. there is so much information on cloning that is incorrect. its difficult to decide if the information you gather is worth listening to. can anyone give me some pointers for next time? i don't have the gel all that i really have is this dome...

also... how do you guys germinate and sprout your little ones? i'm interested in hearing the different methods that people have for doing this. i've done the paper towel method and the "just stick them in a glass of water" method. i'm thinking about just sticking the seeds into the rockwool and waiting next time.

watering frequency for my cutting and the little seedling that hasn't sprouted? suggestions?

should the nutrient and watering regimen for the plant that was topped stay the same? i haven't changed it at all.


this one's for you nikk

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my bro got that for me when he went to cuba a couple years back.


let me know what's up!

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I know it makes ya sick to cut one back.If you`ll scrape the cuttin about a 1/2 inch up the stalk and dip into root and grow or something like it.It will help get roots started.Scrape it VERY GENTLY..GL DRIF

drifter,

i don't have any rooting solution. i think i'll be fine and am hoping that it'll just take a bit longer to root this way. i made the cut, stripped off the node above the cut, scratched the stem a bit and popped it in some moist rockwool

crossing my fingers and whatnot

the church man said:

drifter,

i don't have any rooting solution. i think i'll be fine and am hoping that it'll just take a bit longer to root this way. i made the cut, stripped off the node above the cut, scratched the stem a bit and popped it in some moist rockwool

crossing my fingers and whatnot

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I believe that should work as long as
u keep it humid and warm..

the church man said:

drifter,

i don't have any rooting solution. i think i'll be fine and am hoping that it'll just take a bit longer to root this way. i made the cut, stripped off the node above the cut, scratched the stem a bit and popped it in some moist rockwool

crossing my fingers and whatnot

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Rockwool has no nutes in it so after a few days you are going to see yellowing due to lack of nitrogen
Def get some nutes on her once she roots

tom__420 said:

Rockwool has no nutes in it so after a few days you are going to see yellowing due to lack of nitrogen
Def get some nutes on her once she roots

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tom,

how will i know it has rooted? the top sure looks good today. the leaves lifted up and it looks like its enjoying the lil sauna its in. today i mixed 1 mL of my veg nutes with 4mL's of water and put it in the rockwool.

the bottom is also looking good. i noticed a little bit of growth and that where i cut is scarring or forming a callous or something.

when one switches light cycles is it done all at once or is there a transitional period?

does the light on the clone seem sufficient?

does anyone have experience with nutrient regimens regarding fluorescents? i know that weaker light warrants weaker nutes but i'm not sure how much weaker.

always learning.... learned about hormones responses today...interesting read let me tell ya

the roots will grow out of the bottom of the cube. you mave have ferted to soon. use water and growth hormones only till the roots show. let the rockwool dry some and just use water if you have to. gl

the church man said:

tom,

how will i know it has rooted? the top sure looks good today. the leaves lifted up and it looks like its enjoying the lil sauna its in. today i mixed 1 mL of my veg nutes with 4mL's of water and put it in the rockwool.

the bottom is also looking good. i noticed a little bit of growth and that where i cut is scarring or forming a callous or something.

when one switches light cycles is it done all at once or is there a transitional period?

does the light on the clone seem sufficient?

does anyone have experience with nutrient regimens regarding fluorescents? i know that weaker light warrants weaker nutes but i'm not sure how much weaker.

always learning.... learned about hormones responses today...interesting read let me tell ya

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Glad to hear da little one is doing better.The light switches I think should b done slowly.This way it doesn`t shock it.Lookin Good.GL. Barry

alright,

it looks like the plant is stunted. it hasn't grown much in a couple weeks so i'm pretty sure im' just gonna ditch it. i started germinating some seeds in paper towel and i'll let the plant live till those sprout. the seeds that i'm germinating are indica and should be feminized.

wish me luck!

the plant is definately growing but its so slow i can't stand to watch. i started to germ some seeds and will plant them in rockwool and watch them grow. i'm sure the sprouts will overtake the older plant. when that happens, i'll take out the older one and keep the sprouts. hopefully everything goes well....

for sure the plant that i have now has three tops. i messed up when topping and accidentally cut off what would have been my fourth top. i'm probably going to use this topping method for my next plants as well

this shit is sick cant wait to c the finished product

I'll be watchin...looks interesting.

or maybe i'm wrong about the tops... i think i may see another potential top forming from one of the lower nodes. there are definately three tops and now possibly a fourth. the lil indica seeds are half germinated. i'm going to put them in rockwool tomorrow and wait for them to sprout. once they do, i'll move them over to the can and watch to see whose growth and i'm impressed with more. the original isn't looking that bad right now, and i'm actually starting to notice growth on her.

i'm contemplating constructing some type of veg chamber or something so that i'll have a vegged female ready to flower when i'm done with this one.
anyone got tips/suggestions?

cant wait to smoke that shit.....

Love your grow pod. Especially the heat shields for the lights. Glad you PMed me.