thewiseman
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Just started my indoor garden, its in my basement and the only air coming in is from my central air. Do I need to add CO2 or do anything different??
Should I use CO2?
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if its a small garden, i always put activated yeast with half empty water bottle together with sugar. just put a small hole in the top of the bottle and put it near the canopy
it releases co2 as it ferments and eats the sugar i think. i read alot about it like 2 years ago and it was worth the 5 bucks it takes to set up for sure lol, ive done it ever since
it releases co2 as it ferments and eats the sugar i think. i read alot about it like 2 years ago and it was worth the 5 bucks it takes to set up for sure lol, ive done it ever since
DUBS Doobious
Active Member
Well this all depends on how much heat your lighting system is making.
When the temperature of your growing environment exceeds 85 degrees Fahrenheit it will affect your yield.
However, in a CO2 enriched environment, this phenomenon is mitigated.
In General, the more CO2 the better.
If you can afford it by all means!
It is a wise investment my friend.
When the temperature of your growing environment exceeds 85 degrees Fahrenheit it will affect your yield.
However, in a CO2 enriched environment, this phenomenon is mitigated.
In General, the more CO2 the better.
If you can afford it by all means!
It is a wise investment my friend.
cerberus
Well-Known Member
on the cons:
1.) there is a toxiticy level, but its pretty high and wasteful. but you CAN over do it. (i.e. there are NO pure Co2 sealed grow rooms, that work.)
2.) there is disscusion about it lowers potency, and some logic would say that makes since.. (personally I don't know)
3.) without a proper regulation and/or notes you'll never see or create a benifit
4.) your room needs to be dialed in perfect for the Co2 to make a difference
5.) burners generate heat, tanks are heavy, DIY's are somewhat unreliable
but if you got that stuff dialed, the pro's out way the cons. and adding the extra breathing power to the plants will change all your nute feeding schedules, since they will be eating more.. so if your not a rookie 'id say go for it, if you are then give it some grows first..
good luck mate
1.) there is a toxiticy level, but its pretty high and wasteful. but you CAN over do it. (i.e. there are NO pure Co2 sealed grow rooms, that work.)
2.) there is disscusion about it lowers potency, and some logic would say that makes since.. (personally I don't know)
3.) without a proper regulation and/or notes you'll never see or create a benifit
4.) your room needs to be dialed in perfect for the Co2 to make a difference
5.) burners generate heat, tanks are heavy, DIY's are somewhat unreliable
but if you got that stuff dialed, the pro's out way the cons. and adding the extra breathing power to the plants will change all your nute feeding schedules, since they will be eating more.. so if your not a rookie 'id say go for it, if you are then give it some grows first..
good luck mate
kingofqueen
Well-Known Member
There should be normal levels of Co2 from your A.C circulating air . Is this your first grow ? Have you been gardening anything else?
I think I,m gonna run it later down the road. For know I want to learn the growth process without it .I think its best to learn the basics first from experiance . I have experimented some with dry ice with positive results , it has a nice cooling effect also .
I think I,m gonna run it later down the road. For know I want to learn the growth process without it .I think its best to learn the basics first from experiance . I have experimented some with dry ice with positive results , it has a nice cooling effect also .
cerberus
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74 degrees huh? the more I learn the more I realize I don't know shee-it, lol. Its the little details that really starting adding up, a game of inches as they say. I have always run a room at, or around, 78 degrees and I know a few notches on the humidity scale can bring about major changes. How firm/consistent do you keep your rooms at 74? at night too?
all 5 cylinders in the same room, or 5 different rooms? I'm guessing all different rooms.. but I’m always interested =)
Thanks for taking your precious time to help out us less knowledgeable people.
all 5 cylinders in the same room, or 5 different rooms? I'm guessing all different rooms.. but I’m always interested =)
Thanks for taking your precious time to help out us less knowledgeable people.
nathenking
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I also use tanks, my room gets a bit hotter so the CO2 really helps...
trichlone fiend
New Member
...to properly use co2, in a near hermetic room... it takes all the bells and whistles. co2 monitor, co2 producer (burner/tanks), aircooled hoods, a/c,exc... A near hermetic room will cause humidity issues quickly w/o some air being exausted and a good dehumidifer. The bells and whistles cost alot of money, and will take alot of tweak'n. How deep are your pockets? From my experience, co2 adds about 1/4 lb to each of my lights (600 HPS) so, I believe the investment is worth it. IMO, I would first become confident w/ fresh air growing before step'n it up.
cerberus
Well-Known Member
this guy right here.^^^^
listen to Cardinal Carlin, george has the best advise.
thewiseman
Member
My setup now is for 72 plants, I have 4 t-5 flouresents to veg, and 5 1000w HPS with raptor hoods for the bud room. i only have plants vegging right now, 7 white widow, 1 orange crush, 2 strawberry cough, 2 blueberry, 2 big bud, 1 super silver haze, 1 brazilian cough, and 1 northern lights, so 17 total. Just cloned a bunch. What is the ideal temp and humidity? My bud room is not complete yet, but in the veg its 60%-70% humidity and around 80 degrees. My main concern is where should the humidity be? I have heard you want it dry in the budroom. Oh, and im using 10 gal smart pots with half super soil, the rest 707 roots organic. This is my first grow.
3lions
New Member
In 99%+ of all grows it is not going to provide better results. i.e. costs are going to make it unviable. It is suitable for a certain niche, i.e large commercial grows.
However there are times you might use it, if you are in a hot climate in peak of summer like we are now, temps may be a fraction higher than ideal and if that is the case a home made little bottle type might assist at those 85-89 degrees range.
However there are times you might use it, if you are in a hot climate in peak of summer like we are now, temps may be a fraction higher than ideal and if that is the case a home made little bottle type might assist at those 85-89 degrees range.
nathenking
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I think you have your info wrong bro... It helps my grows as well as all of my friends...
trichlone fiend
New Member
...I 2nd that.
3lions
New Member
Sorry guys, I did not mean to imply at all that co2 does not improve growth rates, what I was really saying is that altho' adding CO2 'can' in some cases double the yield, the work, expense, space, and time usually means that good constant venting is a better alternative.
As long as the plant has the CO2 available, from air that is over 200 ppm CO2, the plants will have enough for proper photosynthesis.
There are also many reports suggesting that despite increasing growth, the strength of the measured thc levels etc are in fact being reduced.
Peace
As long as the plant has the CO2 available, from air that is over 200 ppm CO2, the plants will have enough for proper photosynthesis.
There are also many reports suggesting that despite increasing growth, the strength of the measured thc levels etc are in fact being reduced.
Peace
trichlone fiend
New Member
...I believe I get what your saying. True, all conditions must be optimal for co2 to be benefitial. However, plants can handle upto 7x 200ppm. 1500ppm is the optimal range. Have you ever grew with co2 enrichment?
3lions
New Member
No, not really. I have regularly been in the larger grow rooms of some of the breeders and indeed they do often use co2 in a sealed environment and of course we have all seen the advanced nutrient set ups etc . For for my own personal grows I have enriched with home made techniques occasionally but to be honest I have done it to help them through a warm patch or aire-con problem or something as oppose to increase the size you know?
I think experienced growers will naturally venture that route as we are always progressing and like to experiment etc and in many cases will have everything down to a fine art and get as much as possible out of the grows.
With 'thewiseman' it is his first grow he says so we know he is not experienced and he might not really need co2 and a first time grower would possibly have more chance of doing more harm than good?
Of course we don't know all the details
I think experienced growers will naturally venture that route as we are always progressing and like to experiment etc and in many cases will have everything down to a fine art and get as much as possible out of the grows.
With 'thewiseman' it is his first grow he says so we know he is not experienced and he might not really need co2 and a first time grower would possibly have more chance of doing more harm than good?
Of course we don't know all the details
thewiseman
Member
Anybody know anything about Brazilian cough?