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roseypeach

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did anyone else see them? hey @gold lion you saw the last ones in post #18 but not the ones before, right?

so just to be clear you can see them now? Just don't want to bother admin if we got it resolved...
 

cat of curiosity

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Yeah I can see it now

wow looks like a monster crop ball of leaf

I GA3 or Plant steroids when I clone a blooming plant to try and stop that a bit

I`d thin that out some maybe get some cuttings off it if you need more clones ?

Looks like it should be fun to watch bloom
this is straight run, never topped, from seed. no reveg, they are and have been under 24 hours of light since germination. it hit puberty and this happened 7 days after showing sex, and it keeps bushing with no stretch at all... this is a first for me, but i will be taking many cuttings. i have to prune it, it's too dense to flower...
 

THE KONASSURE

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this is straight run, never topped, from seed. no reveg, they are and have been under 24 hours of light since germination. it hit puberty and this happened 7 days after showing sex, and it keeps bushing with no stretch at all... this is a first for me, but i will be taking many cuttings. i have to prune it, it's too dense to flower...
The real question is will she stretch or just turn into a ball of bud, lol
 

cat of curiosity

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The real question is will she stretch or just turn into a ball of bud, lol
i hope stretch, this is so dense it'll mold and rot, and i'm counting on this run for meds. it will suck if i have to cull it, but i am propagating it, and i think this might be badass in a SOG, as the nodes are so fucking tight. 12/12 from root should be interesting...
 

THE KONASSURE

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i hope stretch, this is so dense it'll mold and rot, and i'm counting on this run for meds. it will suck if i have to cull it, but i am propagating it, and i think this might be badass in a SOG, as the nodes are so fucking tight. 12/12 from root should be interesting...

Cool, you got any tricks you use to force stretch ?

I`ve had to learn some as some strains under leds seem to want to stack up more so I had to learn how to get them to move into flower slower

GA3 and the other booster I use for stretch can cause hermi`s but can`t pretty much anything if you over do it or get unlucky.....

Hopefully she`s a winner
 

cat of curiosity

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Cool, you got any tricks you use to force stretch ?

I`ve had to learn some as some strains under leds seem to want to stack up more so I had to learn how to get them to move into flower slower

GA3 and the other booster I use for stretch can cause hermi`s but can`t pretty much anything if you over do it or get unlucky.....

Hopefully she`s a winner
if i have very squat indy doms i'll use a high nitrogen and mid phosphate mix for a week or two after 12/12, and they stretch out during the dark due to the high nitrogen, and helps space the nodes out and get some air in there. if they are lanky and sat dom, i'll up the potassium and lower nitrogen. it helps reduce leggy branches, but can burn if you get too aggressive with it...
 

THE KONASSURE

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if i have very squat indy doms i'll use a high nitrogen and mid phosphate mix for a week or two after 12/12, and they stretch out during the dark due to the high nitrogen, and helps space the nodes out and get some air in there. if they are lanky and sat dom, i'll up the potassium and lower nitrogen. it helps reduce leggy branches, but can burn if you get too aggressive with it...

I kinda do the same but I use "elixir plant steroids" or GA3 along with higher N to force more stretch

and triacontanol with extra K to reduce stretch

I pretty much always use triacontanol and seaweed juice during bloom till 2/4 weeks before chop, I think after N-P-K triacontanol is about the best thing I`ve come across to add during flowering, a dosage in veg normally gives great results too

I use the plant steroids or ga3 when if I notice any stalling out in vertical growth during veg also if I give it to a mum then the clones seem to do a lot better too.

Oh but I also have a blue and a red side to my flowering area, so I can start them on the red side to get more stretch or on the blue side if I want to reduce stretch, either way I move them around normally bulk them up in the red side or the middle and finish them under the blue side, as close to the 5000k induction lamp as they`ll take by that point.
 

Redoctober

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I kinda do the same but I use "elixir plant steroids" or GA3 along with higher N to force more stretch

and triacontanol with extra K to reduce stretch

I pretty much always use triacontanol and seaweed juice during bloom till 2/4 weeks before chop, I think after N-P-K triacontanol is about the best thing I`ve come across to add during flowering, a dosage in veg normally gives great results too

I use the plant steroids or ga3 when if I notice any stalling out in vertical growth during veg also if I give it to a mum then the clones seem to do a lot better too.

Oh but I also have a blue and a red side to my flowering area, so I can start them on the red side to get more stretch or on the blue side if I want to reduce stretch, either way I move them around normally bulk them up in the red side or the middle and finish them under the blue side, as close to the 5000k induction lamp as they`ll take by that point.
What's your source of triacontanol?

I was thinking of making some alfalfa tea to add to my hydro rez but there is no agreed upon ratio of alfalfa to water
it's also available in pure form but you have to dissolve it in polysorbate-20, not sure about that rout
 

THE KONASSURE

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What's your source of triacontanol?

I was thinking of making some alfalfa tea to add to my hydro rez but there is no agreed upon ratio of alfalfa to water
it's also available in pure form but you have to dissolve it in polysorbate-20, not sure about that rout

I buy it 99% pure Triacontanol

I mix it with grain alcohol... actually think I`ve been using "bio fuel" for a few years now, but its 99.9% grain alcohol

then I either add it too a seaweed juice or a cheap bottle feed with cal/mag and npk + seaweed

or I mix it with wetting agent and use it as a follia normally with some halo or bug killer

Don`t they sell Alfalfa extract pills for diet supplements ? If I was being a bit cheeky I might try using them

Just pure triacontanol does a better job and is cheaper, plus mix it with some seaweed juice and leave it by the grow and I can use it as a booster or a follia cos I know how much to use as I mixed it up, a good seaweed juice/extract makes a great follia/booster anyway but adding Triacontanol to them really packs a punch I normally add some vit B-1 too cos its cheap and I had a bag from ages ago and it reduces stress seems to help them stay happy
 

Redoctober

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I buy it 99% pure Triacontanol

I mix it with grain alcohol... actually think I`ve been using "bio fuel" for a few years now, but its 99.9% grain alcohol

then I either add it too a seaweed juice or a cheap bottle feed with cal/mag and npk + seaweed

or I mix it with wetting agent and use it as a follia normally with some halo or bug killer

Don`t they sell Alfalfa extract pills for diet supplements ? If I was being a bit cheeky I might try using them

Just pure triacontanol does a better job and is cheaper, plus mix it with some seaweed juice and leave it by the grow and I can use it as a booster or a follia cos I know how much to use as I mixed it up, a good seaweed juice/extract makes a great follia/booster anyway but adding Triacontanol to them really packs a punch I normally add some vit B-1 too cos its cheap and I had a bag from ages ago and it reduces stress seems to help them stay happy
Nice! I'll buy the pure stuff and give it a go. Does it enhance the roots or just top growth?
I'd like to put some in my rez and foliar feed as well
Is tria for vegetative growth only, or can you feed it to the plants through flower?..Like would it enhance bud growth?
 

THE KONASSURE

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Nice! I'll buy the pure stuff and give it a go. Does it enhance the roots or just top growth?
I'd like to put some in my rez and foliar feed as well
Is tria for vegetative growth only, or can you feed it to the plants through flower?..Like would it enhance bud growth?
It`s best to use it during bloom if you use it during veg normal plants grow like you have topped them and topped plants go crazy

That`s if you spray them a small dosages would just shorten the internodal spacing via the root zone but you see them get way more productive with it far more side branching too

I like weak ga3 via the roots in veg to make the plants get tall faster, then I`ll Triacontanol once or twice during veg to make them more bushey if they need it

then week 1/3 of bloom I use it if the plant needs more bud sites other wise I just feed normal or I use ga3 if I want more stretch, but then Triacontanol is amazing past week 3/4 it just makes more resin and bigger buds helps the plants shoot hairs

I`d spray them with it once a month for max effect or once every 2 months but you could use it every 2 weeks on a lot of strains

You can feed with it once or twice a week lower dosages like 10ppm upto 50ppm seem to work best around 100ppm is the limit around 300ppm is the limit for extreme dwarfing.. going over that could make it do nothing.. I don`t know as it costs money 100mg to 500ml was the most I ever used, I use that amount for 1 to 3L and it works great

In a spray like 10mg to 100mg per L seems to work best, but you`ll see, maybe people will start to see why I cut a load of lower side growth off after they use this stuff, it makes them so bushey but sticky too

Main thing is you see the leaves of the plant track the light better and they seem more vibrant too you can get some nice extra colours showing and it can make them sex up faster too

Good stuff, once you play with it and get it down I`m sure you`ll add it to seaweed juice and pick what ladies are going to get it and when.... enjoy

For root growth I think maybe it helps but the plants grow hard so they can munch up some leaves when using it over saw 30 or 50mg per L spraying it but its kinda like when you pot them up for so much new growth so quickly the plant will eat some lower leaves.

Mycorr, trycor and bennies work best for root zone but I`m sure Tria and ga3 have an effect on root growth the mum`s I GA3 cuttings seem to grow and root sooner than when the mum has not had any ga3 or elixir steroids for awhile

Also House and Garden "roots excelurator" out side of hydro it`s great stuff, or plant magic do a "roots" that`s pretty good and cheap too
 
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