Sf-4000 light burn

JHBuds

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Every run i had since i got this light i stressed my.plants,
This run i started at 40% flower then slowly went up to 70% left it there 2 days and i saw they didnt ike it.

Back down to 50% for the last 2 weeks and still getting more yellow only on top canopy so i tuned it down to 30%,
less is more with these led from my experience, anybody got the same experience growing with led???
 

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speedwell68

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I get light stress if I am not careful. I am happy not to have to run my lights at full power, saves electricity and elongates the life of the light.
 

Delps8

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What's your hang height? With that piece of info, we can figure out the PPFD level.

LED's produce photons, same as a match, the fusion reaction from the sun, or an HPS fixture. Sure, the photons are different frequencies and have a different mix but a photon is a photon. LED's don't heat the plants because they don't generate any/much IR but, other than that, it's just photons.

The thermometer indicates that your temperature is 69.8° and RH is 39%. Your VPD is good but, at that temperature, growth slows significantly compared to, say 10° warmer. Is that a concern for you?

Cannabis will thrive at 800-1000µmols if there are no other limiting factors. Seeing that your PPFD is well below that, the symptoms that you're seeing are: not an issue off too much light, due to an issue with the plants themselves; or due to something in your grow environment.

First off, that's a gorgeous canopy.

What symptoms are you seeing that indicate too much light? From the photo that you've posted, it looks like many of the leaves are light green. I'm no expert on nute issues but, IIRC, that's a symptom of not enough N.

Re. plants being the issue - that' not likely if the issue is widespread.

Light is one issue but there are eight other factors that make up the grow environment. If you run through them in turn, you should be able to find the culprit. A grower on another forum was in a situation similar to yours. After lots of back and forth, he figured out that he had watered his plants incorrectly. The bottom few inches of dirt in his plant pots had hardened and his roots were drowning. After he dealt with that, he was able to almost double his light levels.

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RE. getting a cheap PAR meter. The SF 4000 emits light at wavelengths >= 660nm. The inexpensive meters on Amazon that share the "Active Eye/Hydrofarm LGBQM quantum sensor" are not able to read light with a wavelength > 660nm. Given that, they cannot read PAR. Second, since the SF 4000 has light at >= 660nm, if you purchase a device that uses that sensor, you'll want to correct the reading you get from those meters.

I've tested the Uni-T lux meter against my Apogee with the Vipar Spectra XS-1500 and the Growcraft veg light and, when I use the Uni-T, the factor of 0.015 gives me accurate PPFD readings . The spectrum of the SF 4000 is similar enough to the XS 1500 to use the 0.015 factor.
 

Jjgrow420

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69° way too cold for led.
Your leaf temp will be lower.
Need to be around 80.
Check the surface temp of the leaf. Ambient temp is not as important as long as it's within the parameters.
 

iggy097

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I've ran the SF4000s several times. I've nute burned, but not light burned. I have them running right now in my 4x4 Yaaass Betch tent. Somewhere around 60% - PAR is 650
 

JHBuds

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Interresting,
I had the same strain hermie the first run with that light at 100% , the symptomes of top canopy only get ligther and ligther while the bottom leaf stay lush green...
Since i dropped the power on the last couple runs same symptomes appear but later in flower...
Its like im on the limit of what they can take and slowly burning them ..
I swear next run ill leave at 30% the whole run ,
Also since im so confused on what causes the problem i decided to use my vedge tent to flower my next run under a mars ts1000 and i see if i get the same problems, i bet you i wont.
 

Hiphophippo

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They look hungry possibly k deficiency this far into flower they’ll be using more potassium to strengthen and produce thicker buds. What are you feeding how much and how often
 

JHBuds

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Gaia green 1 tbs per gallon bloom
Worm castin
Black strap

And advance nutrients micro grow bloom 2ml per liter avery other feed in week 4, 3ml per liter week 5 every other feed , same thing week 6 but 4 ml liter
 

coreywebster

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Gaia green 1 tbs per gallon bloom
Worm castin
Black strap

And advance nutrients micro grow bloom 2ml per liter avery other feed in week 4, 3ml per liter week 5 every other feed , same thing week 6 but 4 ml liter
Any reason your mixing all those things instead of just using one set of nutrient supply?
 
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