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conor c said:
Alfalfa contains a natural pgr or plant growth regulators as well as for the npk value don't worry it's nothing like the dodgy man made ones it's good stuff also kelp has some of its own natural pgrs in it too
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Yes, I understand that this is a natural organic product, and not various growth stimulants that are sold in colored bottles.

Yes, I support such fertilizers, especially when they give such a good result. The plants look very good. Usually at this age the leaves deteriorate more. The buds are also beautiful.
 
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@Sedan - The coconut, aloe vera, alfalfa, and kelp all provide naturally occurring growth hormones. The worm castings are the same as vermicompost, and they provide the bulk of my organic material. When organic material breaks down/composts, it also creates its own humic acids, and helps to condition the soil. Sand and vermiculite help to provide silica.

The amendments I use all have the NPK listed: The soil contains the majority of the food they will need for the whole cycle. The amendments are added and allowed to break down for 2 months or more before use. I make about 100 gallons of soil at a time and store it in large bins with holes cut in them and with micropore tape over the holes (let’s the soil breathe and stay aerobic, and keeps bugs out).

Crab Shell - 4-3-0 (also has chitin, helps strengthen plant defense response)
Alfalfa 3-1-3 (growth hormones)
Neem seed meal 6-1-1 (insect deterrent and slow release nitrogen)
Kelp Meal 0-0-1 (also micronutrients and growth hormones)

Oyster Shell meal - calcium
Dolomitic Lime - calcium and magnesium, also helps regulate ph in soil
Greensand / Rock Dust / Azomite - micronutrients
Guano 6-12-0 and 0-11-0 (I use a little on my soil mix sometimes, but it burns hard and fast if you use too much)
Langbeinite - 0-0-22 (emergency source of quick potassium, also has a lot of magnesium and sulfur - important for terpenes)

The goal is to try and make a balanced blend so that the plants have everything they need and can eat constantly. The bacteria and microscopic soil critters break down everything for the plant to use, instead of using bottles fertilizer, that have been chelated with acids - soil bacteria don’t like this kind of stuff. The theory is that if you take care of the soil bacteria properly, they take care of everything else for the plant.
 
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MissinThe90’sStrains said:
Guano 6-12-0 and 0-11-0 (I use a little on my soil mix sometimes, but it burns hard and fast if you use too much)
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Yes, I know that fertilizer, it's very good for blooms, except we use chicken enzymes instead of bat enzymes. But bats are better because they are predators and their enzymes are more rich.

Yes, it is a very stinging fertilizer, it is better not to add it to the soil, but to make a slightly concentrated tea from it, so as not to burn the roots.

But dolomite flour is no less burning.))

Bro, is not a lot of calcium in your scheme? I see crabs, oysters and dolomite, that's all calcium.

Plus calcium is also in the irrigation water, unless you're using osmosis.

Bro, I'm just wondering, I don't know most of your fertilizers.

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The worm castings are the same as vermicompost,
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I always use vermicompost at the vegie stage.

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it also creates its own humic acids
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Yes, enzymes can sometimes work wonders))

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The goal is to try and make a balanced blend so that the plants have everything they need and can eat constantly.
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Yes, your nutrient solution is full of nutrients, also your plants are in good condition.
 
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I have highly mineralized water here. It comes out of the tap at about 575 ppm dissolved solids, and we have a water softener that adds salts to the water to balance hardness. This water is not great for plants, so I use an RO filter, and store my RO water in a large container for later.
 
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MissinThe90’sStrains said:
It comes out of the tap at about 575 ppm dissolved solids
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yes, this water is not very suitable for watering. I did not think that the US has such bad purification systems.. I am a little surprised.

My tap water is 450 PPM - this is terrible water, it is impossible to drink. I buy drinking water. In Europe, drinking water flows from the tap. Before Maidan, I lived and worked in Moscow for a year, there is excellent tap water there.. evil and cruel water.. but tasty, no need to make it softer and kinder, it will do.)))

Plants, just like us, love drinking water 150-200 PPM, where most of the calcium.

But the best water for irrigation is melt water. Scientists still haven't figured out what exactly its value is, because the PPM there is practically at the level of osmosis, but for some reason it is very useful... In second place is rainwater, if there are no chemical plants with large smoking pipes nearby)) or you don't live somewhere in the center of New York, where there is a lot of smog, then this is excellent water for irrigation. The PPM there is also small, around 50 PPM, but it is also more useful for plants than drinking water.

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and we have a water softener that adds salts to the water to balance hardness.
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Do you still need to add chemicals?

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so I use an RO filter
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Yes, reverse osmosis machines are better than softening chemicals.
 
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Day 46

This journal has been a fun process - documenting new things, taking notes and having pictures to go with them. No grow is ever really perfect, but this has been helpful. I can go back and see where I went wrong, and try to do better next time.

MTF taller pheno is really purpling up and adding some nice density and frost. The smell is changing a lot too, from the original cotton candy sweetness, to a grape with some spice to it. I can’t stop touching the leaves and smelling my fingers. I hope she smokes half as good as she looks.

I definitely burned her and the grape bubba a little bit with the last feed, I shoulda known better. @Sedan I think you were right, lol. The shorter MTF in back is pretty tough and shows no signs of stress. Both MTF also finishing really fast and will probably come down first.

I listened to a “future cannabis project” podcast last week and NotSoDog talked about Mendo Purp (one of the parents in the grape bubba). He said it was likely either Lebanese or Nepalese (I gotta go back and listen again). Her smell is also turning more spicy and hash. It gave me so many tops from the stretching lower branches.

Saints Crossing is not a fast or huge budder, but is probably the densest bud I’ve ever grown.
 

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I listened to a
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The US has the best genetics, be sure of that!

I didn't make that up, it's just a statistic. The USA has invested the most money in the development of cannabis culture. I mean at the state level, where cannabis is legalized. The rest of the countries where cannabis is legalized have invested much less. And also I don't know from experience. All the best stuff sold in Europe is made from American genetics. Personally, I try to always buy American genetics...

As for Crimean genetics... no, I don't buy them.

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Bud-shot updates, day 52. SC, GB, MTF, other MTF. Nice density and frost on everything. Stalks are starting to lean and sway a bit. I’m getting excited and looking forward to testing some new smoke.

”All we need is just a little patience”
 

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Group shot because I forgot yesterday. Fading and finishing. This is why I don't defoliate heavily until it’s absolutely necessary. The plant needs some food reserves to finish up at the end, and I’m not giving them anything else at this point. I want a nice smooth smoke too.
 

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Sedan said:
The US has the best genetics, be sure of that!

I didn't make that up, it's just a statistic. The USA has invested the most money in the development of cannabis culture. I mean at the state level, where cannabis is legalized. The rest of the countries where cannabis is legalized have invested much less. And also I don't know from experience. All the best stuff sold in Europe is made from American genetics. Personally, I try to always buy American genetics...

As for Crimean genetics... no, I don't buy them.

canna-seeds.com.ua

Крымские Семечки

Официальный сайт "Крымские Семечки" - http://www.krim420.com/ Большой привет гроверам всех стран и континентов!!! Наш банк семян конопли рад представиться большой семье поклонников мариванны. Работы по селекции были начаты в 1999 году...
canna-seeds.com.ua canna-seeds.com.ua
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They have some amazing stuff (north America) however don't think there the only ones on this planet with fire if you know where to look you can find it almost everywhere and everything comes from somewhere before In my experience the best old school stuff blows away most modern stuff minus a few exceptions and beware of breeders with 1000s of different strains if you have that many then we can be certain no real breeding or testing has been done chances are mate
 
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conor c said:
exceptions and beware of breeders with 1000s of different strains
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There are seed banks, and there are seed producers. There are breeders, and there are seed makers. We are talking about breeder producers now.

You are European, you probably know Mandala

Once they bred Satori - this is an amazing variety. Yes, at that time on their website there were.. I don't remember.. two or three strains maximum

Satori - Mandala Seeds

This famous Mandala strain is a reliable and powerful cross that will delight your connoisseur heart. Satori is an exceptionally easy to grow sativa. She
www.mandalaseeds.com

Now I open the website... my eyes run wild))).. so much of everything)))

Bro, they will not withstand the competition if they work honestly.)) They need an assortment to survive. The times of small artisans and craftsmen are gone. Large enterprises have eaten everything.))

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They have some amazing stuff (north America)
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Bro, I'm not talking to you about the genetics sold in seed shops in America.. Barney is sold there too. I'm talking to you about the genetics from which the seeds that are later sold in seed shops are made. It should definitely be a clone - a clone is the original source, the seed that you buy will already be a copy. And a copy will lose about 30 percent of its strength. One clone.. real genetics costs about $1,500-2,000 in the US. I was talking about the genetics from which you can get truly high-quality seeds. You make moms from this clone, cut clones from these moms and make seeds from these clones. This mom can stand with you for 10 years or 30, if the genetics are very good there. Over these 30 years, your seeds will not lose quality by even 1% - guaranteed. You can also experiment with crossing. What you're talking about now... Barney... and so on... Bro, in my opinion, it's unprofessional crap! I buy five Barney seeds of the same variety, and five completely different strains grow (roughly speaking). Barney's breeders are either unprofessional or work dishonestly! I had a breeder from Ukraine, he was my friend. He worked miracles... he could mold a killer cross (that's what we call hybrids) out of shit and sticks. I have a video on YouTube, I'll find it, there are twenty plants of the same variety, they are completely indistinguishable.
 
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Sedan said:
There are seed banks, and there are seed producers. There are breeders, and there are seed makers. We are talking about breeder producers now.

You are European, you probably know Mandala

Once they bred Satori - this is an amazing variety. Yes, at that time on their website there were.. I don't remember.. two or three strains maximum

Satori - Mandala Seeds

This famous Mandala strain is a reliable and powerful cross that will delight your connoisseur heart. Satori is an exceptionally easy to grow sativa. She
www.mandalaseeds.com

Now I open the website... my eyes run wild))).. so much of everything)))

Bro, they will not withstand the competition if they work honestly.)) They need an assortment to survive. The times of small artisans and craftsmen are gone. Large enterprises have eaten everything.))


Bro, I'm not talking to you about the genetics sold in seed shops in America.. Barney is sold there too. I'm talking to you about the genetics from which the seeds that are later sold in seed shops are made. It should definitely be a clone - a clone is the original source, the seed that you buy will already be a copy. And a copy will lose about 30 percent of its strength. One clone.. real genetics costs about $1,500-2,000 in the US. I was talking about the genetics from which you can get truly high-quality seeds. You make moms from this clone, cut clones from these moms and make seeds from these clones. This mom can stand with you for 10 years or 30, if the genetics are very good there. Over these 30 years, your seeds will not lose quality by even 1% - guaranteed. You can also experiment with crossing. What you're talking about now... Barney... and so on... Bro, in my opinion, it's unprofessional crap! I buy five Barney seeds of the same variety, and five completely different strains grow (roughly speaking). Barney's breeders are either unprofessional or work dishonestly! I had a breeder from Ukraine, he was my friend. He worked miracles... he could mold a killer cross (that's what we call hybrids) out of shit and sticks. I have a video on YouTube, I'll find it, there are twenty plants of the same variety, they are completely indistinguishable.
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I don't really mess with any big companies in Europe or the UK anymore there's loads of great lesser known boutique breeders out there though and you know that 90% of those clone only strains your talking about are already in Europe and the UK that's all about who you know more than anything regarding those
 
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Sedan said:
There are seed banks, and there are seed producers. There are breeders, and there are seed makers. We are talking about breeder producers now.

You are European, you probably know Mandala

Once they bred Satori - this is an amazing variety. Yes, at that time on their website there were.. I don't remember.. two or three strains maximum

Satori - Mandala Seeds

This famous Mandala strain is a reliable and powerful cross that will delight your connoisseur heart. Satori is an exceptionally easy to grow sativa. She
www.mandalaseeds.com

Now I open the website... my eyes run wild))).. so much of everything)))

Bro, they will not withstand the competition if they work honestly.)) They need an assortment to survive. The times of small artisans and craftsmen are gone. Large enterprises have eaten everything.))


Bro, I'm not talking to you about the genetics sold in seed shops in America.. Barney is sold there too. I'm talking to you about the genetics from which the seeds that are later sold in seed shops are made. It should definitely be a clone - a clone is the original source, the seed that you buy will already be a copy. And a copy will lose about 30 percent of its strength. One clone.. real genetics costs about $1,500-2,000 in the US. I was talking about the genetics from which you can get truly high-quality seeds. You make moms from this clone, cut clones from these moms and make seeds from these clones. This mom can stand with you for 10 years or 30, if the genetics are very good there. Over these 30 years, your seeds will not lose quality by even 1% - guaranteed. You can also experiment with crossing. What you're talking about now... Barney... and so on... Bro, in my opinion, it's unprofessional crap! I buy five Barney seeds of the same variety, and five completely different strains grow (roughly speaking). Barney's breeders are either unprofessional or work dishonestly! I had a breeder from Ukraine, he was my friend. He worked miracles... he could mold a killer cross (that's what we call hybrids) out of shit and sticks. I have a video on YouTube, I'll find it, there are twenty plants of the same variety, they are completely indistinguishable.
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when you S1 something it rarely comes out like the parents a S1 is kinda like a f2 that way another thing to remember when you S1 something the traits that are recessive in the parents become dominant in alot of the progeny good or bad and the likes of Barney's are repackagers who buy bulk from Spain like most of the big guys but not every European seed maker is like that the smaller ones do more work and or preservation also alot of north Americans still buy seeds from all over so I think that says it all bud
 
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conor c said:
are already in Europe and the UK
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Bro, I'm probably not the smartest.))

Of course, they bought these clones in the US a long time ago and make seeds from them. I'll tell you more, they can tell you much more about this than I can! Because I'm not a breeder, I was just friends with a breeder and tested his seeds.

I have a friend from Prague. There is legalization there too. Every year before the war, there was a canna festival there. Every year, at my request, my friend went there and made a video report. The first thing I asked him was to find American genetics there. I told him that American genetics are very difficult to buy in Europe. He went there... damn.. how many stands he visited.. American genetics everywhere.))) We had a fierce argument... I just didn't believe him.))) He was offended!)) In the end, he went to the stands again.. to ask more in-depth questions.. it turned out.. these are American genetics, only made in Europe. There is no other American genetics there, only copies and hybrids.

The USA (Canada) financed the most money in the cannabis industry, compared to all other countries where legalization. It can be said that if you add all the countries together, the USA still invested more. The largest US companies began to re-profile on marijuana. The General Hydroponics company first produced fertilizers for regular plants, but then switched to marijuana.. and the profits began to fly into space after that.))) You know these fertilizers in Europe well - this is GHE (General Hydroponics Europe). I do not know a single experienced grower who would not know or have not used Flora Trio. Now there was a rebranding.. I do not know what it is called.

Thus, it turned out that the best genetics from all over the world are collected in the USA - this is a fact. The only more or less large company that has its own genetics, not American, that I know in Europe is Green Seeds House (mandala). Everything else... you are right - a copy of genetics from the USA.

conor c said:
when you S1 something it rarely comes out like the parents a S1 is kinda like a f2 that way another thing to remember when you S1 something the traits that are recessive in the parents become dominant in alot of the progeny good or bad
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Bro, I'm sorry, but I'm not a breeder. I can't talk about something I don't understand. I only know the topic superficially. I've never made seeds, I'm just a grower.

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Barney's has turned into shit lately. Just like Green Seeds House... and before there were not seeds, but a diamond)))

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Sedan said:
Bro, I'm probably not the smartest.))

Of course, they bought these clones in the US a long time ago and make seeds from them. I'll tell you more, they can tell you much more about this than I can! Because I'm not a breeder, I was just friends with a breeder and tested his seeds.

I have a friend from Prague. There is legalization there too. Every year before the war, there was a canna festival there. Every year, at my request, my friend went there and made a video report. The first thing I asked him was to find American genetics there. I told him that American genetics are very difficult to buy in Europe. He went there... damn.. how many stands he visited.. American genetics everywhere.))) We had a fierce argument... I just didn't believe him.))) He was offended!)) In the end, he went to the stands again.. to ask more in-depth questions.. it turned out.. these are American genetics, only made in Europe. There is no other American genetics there, only copies and hybrids.

The USA (Canada) financed the most money in the cannabis industry, compared to all other countries where legalization. It can be said that if you add all the countries together, the USA still invested more. The largest US companies began to re-profile on marijuana. The General Hydroponics company first produced fertilizers for regular plants, but then switched to marijuana.. and the profits began to fly into space after that.))) You know these fertilizers in Europe well - this is GHE (General Hydroponics Europe). I do not know a single experienced grower who would not know or have not used Flora Trio. Now there was a rebranding.. I do not know what it is called.

Thus, it turned out that the best genetics from all over the world are collected in the USA - this is a fact. The only more or less large company that has its own genetics, not American, that I know in Europe is Green Seeds House (mandala). Everything else... you are right - a copy of genetics from the USA.


Bro, I'm sorry, but I'm not a breeder. I can't talk about something I don't understand. I only know the topic superficially. I've never made seeds, I'm just a grower.


Barney's has turned into shit lately. Just like Green Seeds House... and before there were not seeds, but a diamond)))

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Look into karmas gear for example he in Europe uses American genetics mostly he is Dutch but it's nothing like the repackaging outfits his gear is real I'm sure you will find something you like in his seeds
 
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MTFs are just about done. I’ll start inspecting trichomes next week. Today is day F 60.

GB is close too, but harder to get to, hasn’t changed much in a week. SC prob needs 3 weeks. Last run the SC seemed a bit happier, and I think my soil mix was a bit stronger. She’s eating herself too now, but should make it to the finish line. Oh well, this is what notes are for. I’m still early in my organic journey (run #4) and reading and learning. I just joined OG to read even more!

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