Schwaggy P's Random Stuff

Schwaggy P

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With credit to @vostok on this...(did I get it right? Drop a pic of that in use again please)

Interesting way to collect pollen.

Cut the bottom off a 2 liter pop bottle - small hole drilled in cap.
Carefully cut a close to pollen dropping male branch to fit in that bottle - Put the cut end of the branch stem through the hole in the cap.
Place the whole set-up into a glass just full enough that the cut stem end is in the water.
The branch will pollen drop over the next cpl of days. Lightly shake the bottle and the branch will drop more pollen.

Collect, being sure NOT to get any pollen wet at all! (Did it by cutting off the wet end of the branch first.)

Store in the freezer with a desiccant bag or pack......Rice - does NOT work to prevent moisture.

Always allow container of pollen to reach room temp before opening! Otherwise you risk pollen being killed by condensation!

Store for 6 months safely. After that, the viability deceases over time.....


You got a Bitch'in series going here Swaggy! Garden too!
Great method of collection! I try to keep a pollen bank in the freezer because my staggered perpetual is about 10 days apart so I have ladies ready to dust regularly. I try to get the males to drop enough for several one-time use vials to deposit in the pollen bank. So when a new tray of ladies are at that week 3-4 window, I pop open the freezer and can choose from different pollen. I'll be doing some pollen collection soon and will take pictures and have an organized post about the process.

I will include how you can flower out a male without having a dedicated space using a clear storage tote and a box to cover him to keep a 12/12 lighting schedule. So if there are any growers with a single tent for personal use, you can still make multiple crosses without having to setup another space or sacrificing full plants to pollination.

Thanks for the kind words, I hope this effort can help others achieve goals, compare phenos to certain moms, and general entertainment :bigjoint:
 
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Schwaggy P

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What differences and simliarites between the cuts have you noticed thus far into flower?
The Skunk VA having the lankier branching needs the most support while she’s stretching. I have a topped and untopped Skunk VA on the same tray, and she does better when topped. She is eager to branch and has a surprising amount of vigor in doing so. The untopped version can take off on you. This tent has non-Chemdog stuff too; gives you an idea of the relative height.
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The JB doesn’t have the same overly tall stretch that the Skunk VA has. This is not to say she isn’t vigorous, here is the same JB three days apart.
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The JB shines in the smell department. Even in veg, she has a deep kushy oil-rag funk. Whenever I disturb the JB, she starts to smell something fantastic (makes taking clones enjoyable).

The Chem D is the most finicky, flashing her leaf variegation and deformations at a higher pH. I usually keep the pH 5.7-6.0, but if it ticks up above 6.0, she gets pissed. While it’s a thin margin for error, she’s a good pH indicator :-).

All of the Chemdogs have similar stigma, not overly thick or thin.
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Schwaggy P

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Now that the Chemdogs have had a couple weeks head start, it's time for the Skunky Brewster male to be added to the tent. His top has been cut and rooted so he's been added to the male veg area. I try to keep a father plant of all the males I use.
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He has some decent pre-flower frost. I used a filter in this picture to give a better contrast of the trichomes and leaves.
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Now, he'll hang out on the floor next to the tray of ladies. Once he fully pollenates the tent and I can get several vials of his pollen, he'll be given a Viking funeral.
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Schwaggy P

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This tray is about a week away from a few branches getting pollenated. There are 8 different strains (16 plants total) on this table.
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Better shot of Chem D upfront
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As for pollen donors, the Black Triangle and Ecto Cooler males should be dropping pollen in time. I also have some other saved pollen in the freezer in case another idea strikes.
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Schwaggy P

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Breeding Project Proposal

What is the goal of this project?

I would like a sour, sharp, astringent skunk. This would differ from the Chem Skunks in that the desired effect would be more of a sativa skunk, less rotting flesh and more sour solvent smells. This should be the type of smoke that gets your heart pumping with some mild visual alteration. I’m looking for a quick flowering sativa skunk that burns the nostrils and sends the mind into hyperdrive.


Which females will be used and why?

  • Green Crack S1 – I have had this lady for many years and she has outperformed many plants to stay in the library. The Green Crack is the result of Afghani x ’89 SSSC Skunk #1, and my S1 leans very heavily to the Skunk #1. She has very narrow leaves, the stickiest resin I’ve come across, short flower time, very speedy upbeat effect that in large doses can cause slight visual distortion, and has a sharp acetone soaked overripe mango smell. She is really an amazing plant with one fatal flaw, the worst case of wet noodle branches by week 5 that a plant can have. She requires vigilant branch support and can monopolize grower time requiring EVERY branch to be tied. If I can just introduce stronger structure, and add more nose burning sour, it will be mission accomplished.
Here you can see her in wet noodle mode and why she's worth the effort
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Which male will be used and why?

Granny Skunk [Virginia Beach Afghani x (Skelly HP x SSSC Skunk #1)] – Dominion Seed Co.
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I had to find a male that also has the SSSC Skunk #1 in his lineage and expresses this skunk dominance. The Granny Skunk male sports narrower leaves relative to his brothers (he also displays a double serration like the GC). His stem rub is a sharp sour, burnt rubber profile. The stem is markedly thicker and sturdier when compared to the Green Crack and my hope is that he can really add strength to an otherwise weak structure while locking down the SSSC Skunk #1 leanings.


What do you expect to see in the progeny (assumptions holding true) and how will this affect your plan of attack going forward?

Considering my target is the Skunk #1 expression, I plan to cull all but the most narrow leafed phenos early in veg. This will allow me to pop several seeds in search for exceptional skunk dominant specimens without needing to dedicate much space to full grow outs. During research for this project I came across a post about the ’89 SSSC Skunk #1 by ROC in another forum. The very narrow leaves are apparent in this picture and will allow quick separation of the non-skunk phenos in the F1 generation. 80s era SSSC seed catalogue entries can also offer visual clues about the Skunk #1.

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After the initial culling, the progeny will be grown to maturity taking careful note of the terp profile, sativa chemotype, structural integrity, and speed of flower. I anticipate a possible backcross to the Green Crack mother if the progeny ventures too far from the GC. With the goal being a more sour, stronger GC, the backcross possibility seems inevitable. Further work will be dictated by the spread of the F1 generation.

In other projects involving the Green Crack, she has been able to faithfully pass along the yield and speed, but her terp profile and potency can be variable. This project will also serve to help benchmark this male to give information about how he influences progeny for further work in future projects.
 

elkamino

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I'll be doing some pollen collection soon and will take pictures and have an organized post about the process.

I will include how you can flower out a male without having a dedicated space using a clear storage tote and a box to cover him to keep a 12/12 lighting schedule. So if there are any growers with a single tent for personal use, you can still make multiple crosses without having to setup another space or sacrificing full plants to pollination.
Excellent contributions,@Schwaggy P ! Everything you post is so Detailed and useful, thank you. I’m just about to do some chucking and am limited on space ,so your mention here has me eager to see what you’re doing... not to rush you, but any plans to post deets on your male isolation chamber? My Sakura male donor is stinky and his sacks are swelling, I imagine he’ll be ready to unload soon... thanks!
 

Schwaggy P

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Excellent contributions,@Schwaggy P ! Everything you post is so Detailed and useful, thank you. I’m just about to do some chucking and am limited on space ,so your mention here has me eager to see what you’re doing... not to rush you, but any plans to post deets on your male isolation chamber? My Sakura male donor is stinky and his sacks are swelling, I imagine he’ll be ready to unload soon... thanks!
You are very welcome, I'm glad to hear you find the posts useful, thanks for letting me know they are on the right track.

I do have plans to post a detailed breakdown of the process. I have males that have already dropped pollen and I have the picture breakdowns all gathered and organized with quite a bit written out. I was waiting for the hand pollination (about 1-2 days away) of some branches to round out the full write-up. The post will have 3 main sections:
  • Flowering the Male
  • Pollen Collection/Storing
  • Single Branch Pollination
 

elkamino

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You are very welcome, I'm glad to hear you find the posts useful, thanks for letting me know they are on the right track.

I do have plans to post a detailed breakdown of the process. I have males that have already dropped pollen and I have the picture breakdowns all gathered and organized with quite a bit written out. I was waiting for the hand pollination (about 1-2 days away) of some branches to round out the full write-up. The post will have 3 main sections:
  • Flowering the Male
  • Pollen Collection/Storing
  • Single Branch Pollination
:clap::clap:

I’ll sit tight :eyesmoke:
 

Schwaggy P

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Just finished doing a round of branch pollination and have the pictures to finish up the pollination post (hopefully soon). Couple pictures from the session...

GG#4 before getting dusted.
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Gelato with a couple lower branches dusted and bagged. For a small sacrifice, you can make hundreds of seeds while still keeping plenty of sensi.
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