**Schuylaar's Sesh - Opioid Survivors Thread**
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Mr.Vega
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Subs?...methadone?....combined w cannabis is how I keep the beast at bay....I went from dope to done then from done to subs....I start dropping 1mg per month starting next month...im at 16mgs now...discussed this w my doctor n he sd in the end my wd's should be minimal but I dont believe him...id love to hear what u did bro please share
Is your physician sub certified? You're right in not believing him..sub is so much stronger 1mg = 50mg morphine.
Well, the first thing was getting with a sub certified doctor because they will make you cut back properly and not let you linger or go from 1mg to 16mg of subs..what your doctor is doing to you is a travesty and what give subs the bad name..imo
Take note here boys and girls on what I just said..if your doctor lets you increase your subs..RUN!!!!!! He/she is an enabler..imo
Mr.Vega
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Wow bro u really misunderstood. .ha....im at 16mgs n hes gonna taper me down 1mg per month til I hit a low dose then drop even slower n smaller....so goin at this rate itll take me 16months to hit 1mg....16mg per day now and have been for couple years now...drop 1mg nxt month to 15...next month 14...see what im sayin?...yeah hes a sub dr he used to run the methadone clinic in my area then started doing it frm his office.
why?.......
currently? with 16mgs/day? heck I believe that..you are taking the equivalent of 800mg of morphine every day..flower not gonna have any effect until you cut yourself.. and it's easy..people seem to think they're going to explode if they cut themselves..can you imagine if you were involved in an accident? They wouldn't even be able to give you enough medication or perhaps would have difficulty with anesthesia..
Mr.Vega
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I was put to sleep for a wisdom tooth extraction a couple months ago n everything went fine....he started me at 16cause that what I left the clinic (done) at...was on dope n was becoming unmanageable so went to done clinic..started at 40mgs then wrkd up to 110mgs cause I was getting hi off the done banging my liquid so I wanted upped every week...atter a while at 110mgs I got sick of being a zombie and the clinics expensive n insurance doesn't pick up so my plan was to dose down off the done to switch to subs...dropped 10mgs a week til I hit 30mgs then nothing for two days then started on subs...16mgs...this is standard procedure at the methadone clinic...tried to dose down real fast on the subs thru clinic and quit n fkd myself up...I wasnt ready n suffered terrible wds...thats when I found the doc I have now...I had only been gone from clinic for abt a month so my doc started me on 16mgs to get me bk om track w the plans of tapering when I was ready...that time is now...so the plan is drop 1mg a month til I dont feel comfortable dropping anymore...stay at that dose for a couple months then start tapering agn til I dose out...once I get down to 6 or 4mgs ill prolly not drop a whole mg a month maybe just half mgs....n I was saying I cant get hi when withdrawing. ...I smoke all day everyday on my dose now and everything fine n normal...I get hi...when im withdrawing tho its like im trippin on acid or somthin..cant relax cant sleep n weed doesnt affect me...i guess my body rejects it wanting its real medicine.
Mr.Vega
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I was dumpin 110mg shots of liquid methadone twice a day before...16mgs of sub is a snack...ha
Awesome! I had dental surgery while I was still taking percs and there was an issue to put me to sleep..I needed double..so I'm happy that's not a problem for you.
It look likes you have a plan and that's how it all starts..most of what I have to say is really pretty obvious if you think about it..just common sense.
One thing though, I refused to go to any 12 step meetings and then of course had to argue the god does not exist point to them..I didn't want to associate with any other drug users other than the "group" I had to attend once a week at the doctors office..upon leaving the office building, all my new drug buddies from group waving me over..let's all chill..NO WAY..straight to my car..
no exchange of phone numbers.
I cannot stress enough keeping yourself segregated..it is going to be one of the biggest parts of your succeeding in this..not for "just in case"..or future weed biz..don't do it..the first time you give you number out will be a FAIL..if someone hand you theirs (and they will) toss in the trash..
Skuxx
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Yep that is a hard step. Just about everyone I knew was drug buddies. I've been clean from opioids for a while. went from oxys to dones to subs. Quit subs at 16mg/day+ because I can't taper. That was hell for about 1 1/2 months. my recent demon was quitting benzos and alcohol. That put me in the ER and almost killed me... it was so much worse than anything I could have imagined. Then I had to stay in a looney bin for a while lol. Been clean for 3 months now (minus one slip up drinking, lesson learned), and I've pretty much isolated myself. Except I go to meetings sometimes, and do some volunteer work to stay a little busy. Besides that, I'm just chilling at home smoking green and growing various things.
I still get calls all the time with people that have something and they don't get the message when I say I don't do that anymore.
I still get calls all the time with people that have something and they don't get the message when I say I don't do that anymore.
Mr.Vega
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Pressure from others has nvr been an issue w me...im my own worst enemy...or I was...I never did the 12step thing either...sittin around w a bunch of dopeheads is in itself a trigger for me...id go to meetings n see girls I used to fk w in the dope life..dope heads from around town...everyone telling dope stories...all triggers for me...I had to find somthing I loved more than dope to make me wanna quit n thats my wife...id lose her if I was a dope head she dont fk around like that.
Mr.Vega
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There's usually a void in ur life is the reason u sought out drugs to begin w...once u fill that void dope gets shoved aside because itll b in the way...everyone has somthing they can fall in love w to replace the drugs...the only ammunition that had any affect on my addiction was love...I know it sounds sappy but its tru...prison didnt do it...rehabs didnt do it...being homeless living in hotel rooms didnt do it...getting my brains beat out didnt do it...love killed the beast.
tapering has to be done just the right way..benzos are a bitch glad you are over them..I'm curious do your doctors allow you to hold your subs?
Mr.Vega
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Yes...I get a months worth at a time
Those "group" meetings everyone just sits around and reminisces about what drugs are the best and who has taken the most at one time..like a badge of honor.
Something that helped me was changing where my meds were..once I was allowed to have on my own..i put them in a different place to break the habit of going to the medicine cabinet and that works well..
Something that helped me was changing where my meds were..once I was allowed to have on my own..i put them in a different place to break the habit of going to the medicine cabinet and that works well..