Schools open & I'm going too die

Bugeye

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Displacement of blame?
What the fuck are you talking about?
My wife is stuck in this mass fuck up simply because of Trump & his like minded idiot followers, one of which is you apparently, that think COVID-19 is not that big a deal & under control & will "simply go away"
So, my wife should give up on her career/students/ambitions because of Trump's failures as a competent Human/POTUS?
Nah, she doesn't think she will & will do what is needed to help our family & her students survive in spite of Donald J. Trump, because he's just a POS curse that has a couple of more months left before he's fucking done. (then he's going to jail in NY)
You know what?
Your an annoying person sometimes & right now I'm not in the mood for your psychoanalysis.
Thank you :)
Seems to me your wife knows you might die from Covid and she chose her career over you for various reasons. I don't judge the decision, really none of my business. But to blame Trump when it is your school board deciding to open the school and your wife deciding to go...
 

TrippleDip

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So feel free and school me on those comparisons of 'inner city back vs white people'.
See this graph?


There's a reason the categories are so vague. What I mean was, an inner city white boy growing up with a single mother does not have better odds than a black boy growing up in the same circumstances. Not racism.

A black man born to a wealthy two parent household in the keys has the same opportunities and chance to succeed as a white man born to a wealthy two parent household in the keys. Not racism.

Your stat only works because there are more black people in the cities being raised by single mothers. You are claiming racism as the cause of different outcomes of different peoples in different places when really it's the fact that the circumstances are different that causes the difference.

Even if you want to say racism back then caused a disparity in wealth now. That has nothing to say about racism now, which by your own admission is virtually nonexistent compared to just decades ago. The only coherent argument I have gotten from you, as to how racism is currently the cause of the problems today is that you don't think they will ever catch up, and I explained why I think that is wrong in another thread.
 

TrippleDip

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Using force to create an equality of outcome is akin to guys with small peckers all voting that the well endowed must have several inches removed so "everyone is equal". That's a dickish idea.
So it is your opinion then that we should not tax people (use force) to pay for public schools (enforce equality of outcome) and just let the ruling class alone educate their kids? I am sure you can see how taking from the rich kids to educate the poor is "removing several inches" from the rich kid, to use your metaphor.
 

UncleBuck

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See this graph?



There's a reason the categories are so vague. What I mean was, an inner city white boy growing up with a single mother does not have better odds than a black boy growing up in the same circumstances. Not racism.

A black man born to a wealthy two parent household in the keys has the same opportunities and chance to succeed as a white man born to a wealthy two parent household in the keys. Not racism.

Your stat only works because there are more black people in the cities being raised by single mothers. You are claiming racism as the cause of different outcomes of different peoples in different places when really it's the fact that the circumstances are different that causes the difference.

Even if you want to say racism back then caused a disparity in wealth now. That has nothing to say about racism now, which by your own admission is virtually nonexistent compared to just decades ago. The only coherent argument I have gotten from you, as to how racism is currently the cause of the problems today is that you don't think they will ever catch up, and I explained why I think that is wrong in another thread.
everything you just said was bullshit
 

TrippleDip

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Seems to me your wife knows you might die from Covid and she chose her career over you for various reasons. I don't judge the decision, really none of my business. But to blame Trump when it is your school board deciding to open the school and your wife deciding to go...
Astute.
 

Rob Roy

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So it is your opinion then that we should not tax people (use force) to pay for public schools (enforce equality of outcome) and just let the ruling class alone educate their kids? I am sure you can see how taking from the rich kids to educate the poor is "removing several inches" from the rich kid, to use your metaphor.
No that is not my opinion. My opinion is you nor I have any right to force an unwilling peaceful person to pay for our ideas. If it's voluntary it's education, if it's mandatory, it's indoctrination.

Is it your opinion that you can "rape somebody for their own good" ? Sounds like that's your argument.
 

TrippleDip

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No that is not my opinion. My opinion is you nor I have any right to force an unwilling peaceful person to pay for our ideas. If it's voluntary it's education, if it's mandatory, it's indoctrination.

Is it your opinion that you can "rape somebody for their own good" ? Sounds like that's your argument.
Yeah, I believe we should tax people for the greater good as in education. There is no such thing as raping for the greater good.

Your previous post just said that taking from others by force to enforce equality of outcome (such as we do to pay for the public school system) was wrong, but now you say it's right. What's the difference, why do you flip flop on a simple issue. Is it wrong to use force to enforce equality of outcome or not?
 

schuylaar

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Yeah, I believe we should tax people for the greater good as in education. There is no such thing as raping for the greater good.

Your previous post just said that taking from others by force to enforce equality of outcome (such as we do to pay for the public school system) was wrong, but now you say it's right. What's the difference, why do you flip flop on a simple issue. Is it wrong to use force to enforce equality of outcome or not?
ever wonder who's going to be doling out all collected in robs world?

maybe they;ll use the honor system?
 
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Fogdog

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See this graph?



There's a reason the categories are so vague. What I mean was, an inner city white boy growing up with a single mother does not have better odds than a black boy growing up in the same circumstances. Not racism.

A black man born to a wealthy two parent household in the keys has the same opportunities and chance to succeed as a white man born to a wealthy two parent household in the keys. Not racism.

Your stat only works because there are more black people in the cities being raised by single mothers. You are claiming racism as the cause of different outcomes of different peoples in different places when really it's the fact that the circumstances are different that causes the difference.

Even if you want to say racism back then caused a disparity in wealth now. That has nothing to say about racism now, which by your own admission is virtually nonexistent compared to just decades ago. The only coherent argument I have gotten from you, as to how racism is currently the cause of the problems today is that you don't think they will ever catch up, and I explained why I think that is wrong in another thread.
factually incorrect.

That said, I do believe that you believe your made up shit.
 

Rob Roy

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Yeah, I believe we should tax people for the greater good as in education. There is no such thing as raping for the greater good.
When you say "greater good" you really mean, "force people to pay for things they otherwise aren't interested in and you are okay with attacking them if they don't comply with your edicts" .

Why are you so afraid to say what you mean ? You are willing to attack people if they don't bend to your will.

I agree there is no such thing as raping or attacking a peaceful person to create a "greater good".
 

Rob Roy

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ever wonder who's going to be doling out all collected in robs world?

maybe they;ll use the honor system?
When you sold girl scout cookies as a kid, did you force old people to buy them or did you simply move on if they told you to get off their lawn?

Did you hire police to collect from those who didn't want any cookies ?
 

Budley Doright

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There's a reason the categories are so vague. What I mean was, an inner city white boy growing up with a single mother does not have better odds than a black boy growing up in the same circumstances. Not racism
Bullshit! Please provide the proof. By your example there should be no difference in employment numbers if both have equal opertunities.
A black man born to a wealthy two parent household in the keys has the same opportunities and chance to succeed as a white man born to a wealthy two parent household in the keys. Not racism.
Again the employment numbers would reflect this. They do not and actually black employment t rates hover at close to 50%. Also a wage gap that is criminal. Please prove me wrong?
Your stat only works because there are more black people in the cities being raised by single mothers. You are claiming racism as the cause of different outcomes of different peoples in different places when really it's the fact that the circumstances are different that causes the difference.
fucking right there different! How long would a black person live if holding an AK walked down Main Street USA.

Even if you want to say racism back then caused a disparity in wealth now. That has nothing to say about racism now, which by your own admission is virtually nonexistent compared to just decades ago. The only coherent argument I have gotten from you, as to how racism is currently the cause of the problems today is that you don't think they will ever catch up, and I explained why I think that is wrong in another thread.
tell that to the guy lying in bed with 7 bullets in his back. Racism has not went away, the slavery has not went away, it’s just poorly hidden with a non living wage, crap schools, and the war on drugs that the government used to entrap marginalized folks.
 

UncleBuck

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There's a reason the categories are so vague. What I mean was, an inner city white boy growing up with a single mother does not have better odds than a black boy growing up in the same circumstances. Not racism
Bullshit! Please provide the proof. By your example there should be no difference in employment numbers if both have equal opertunities.
A black man born to a wealthy two parent household in the keys has the same opportunities and chance to succeed as a white man born to a wealthy two parent household in the keys. Not racism.
Again the employment numbers would reflect this. They do not and actually black employment t rates hover at close to 50%. Also a wage gap that is criminal. Please prove me wrong?
Your stat only works because there are more black people in the cities being raised by single mothers. You are claiming racism as the cause of different outcomes of different peoples in different places when really it's the fact that the circumstances are different that causes the difference.
fucking right there different! How long would a black person live if holding an AK walked down Main Street USA.

Even if you want to say racism back then caused a disparity in wealth now. That has nothing to say about racism now, which by your own admission is virtually nonexistent compared to just decades ago. The only coherent argument I have gotten from you, as to how racism is currently the cause of the problems today is that you don't think they will ever catch up, and I explained why I think that is wrong in another thread.
tell that to the guy lying in bed with 7 bullets in his back. Racism has not went away, the slavery has not went away, it’s just poorly hidden with a non living wage, crap schools, and the war on drugs that the government used to entrap marginalized folks.
the study i recall is that white high school dropouts from wealthy families do about as good as black postgraduates from poor families
 

Budley Doright

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the study i recall is that white high school dropouts from wealthy families do about as good as black postgraduates from poor families
That sounds more like the actual reality. But I’ll wait for dip to quantify his statements with facts......chirp chirp chirp.
 

Wattzzup

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fucking right there different! How long would a black person live if holding an AK walked down Main Street USA.
White people protesting is allowed. Protesting only became an issue when BLM started protesting. The KKK has been armed and protested different things all through history no one talked about how “woke” the klan was. We just accepted it because it’s the first amendment
 

hanimmal

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There's a reason the categories are so vague. What I mean was, an inner city white boy growing up with a single mother does not have better odds than a black boy growing up in the same circumstances. Not racism.
Bullshit. When those two boys grow up, that black boy is less likely to get called in for a interview and once they get a job they are more likely to have to deal with racism and micro aggressions while in work that they have to let roll off their backs that the white person doesn't have to deal with.

A black man born to a wealthy two parent household in the keys has the same opportunities and chance to succeed as a white man born to a wealthy two parent household in the keys. Not racism.
How much more likely is it that the black guy in your situation to get pulled over for driving in their neighborhood? And again, less jobs opportunities regardless of wealth because of bias.

https://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html
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Your stat only works because there are more black people in the cities being raised by single mothers. You are claiming racism as the cause of different outcomes of different peoples in different places when really it's the fact that the circumstances are different that causes the difference.
Racist piece of shit thing to say if you haven't actually checked on this and are just taking the word of what racists have told you to believe.

Even if you want to say racism back then caused a disparity in wealth now. That has nothing to say about racism now, which by your own admission is virtually nonexistent compared to just decades ago. The only coherent argument I have gotten from you, as to how racism is currently the cause of the problems today is that you don't think they will ever catch up, and I explained why I think that is wrong in another thread.
See above. You are wrong. It is still very persistent and families have been ripped apart by our over policing and the brutal way that we treat children that are thrown into the legal system at a far disproportionate way, turning our minority males into weapons before they are adults.

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/grants/250804.pdf

'Virtually nonexistent.. by my own admission' is such a troll thing to say, because I have not said that. Our cities are still the remnants of the racism we have to overcome still. Is racism less overt? Sure, but that doesn't mean that the climb for us all to have the same ability to succeed in our country is over, because it is not. We are still generations away from it, and that was before we got our current racist POTUS.
 
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