SB 1598 "Micro Canopy" license News and Info

explosive82 said:

Yea i already signed up for that i was more talking about the selling to dispensaries thing

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Sorry, do you mean medical dispensaries, or recreational retail outlets? (they're not technically dispensaries as they're not operating under OHA but rather under the overview of the OLCC) If you mean medical, it's the same reporting system you're already on, and if someone is not using it, they can't sell excess to the medical dispensaries. If you mean recreational (only) then that's the micro canopy license through OLCC, which apparently they're still working on data for (or at least I didn't see it yet...) If you're wanting to sell to a medical dispensary that also sells to the rec market you (currently) sell to the medical side (and have to report it to the OHA via the online reporting thing) and they will (most likely) transfer the medical marijuana to their recreational side by going through the paperwork required. But, check with the sales people you're trying to sell to just to insure compliance as it's so new and all that.

stsin said:

Sorry, do you mean medical dispensaries, or recreational retail outlets? (they're not technically dispensaries as they're not operating under OHA but rather under the overview of the OLCC) If you mean medical, it's the same reporting system you're already on, and if someone is not using it, they can't sell excess to the medical dispensaries. If you mean recreational (only) then that's the micro canopy license through OLCC, which apparently they're still working on data for (or at least I didn't see it yet...) If you're wanting to sell to a medical dispensary that also sells to the rec market you (currently) sell to the medical side (and have to report it to the OHA via the online reporting thing) and they will (most likely) transfer the medical marijuana to their recreational side by going through the paperwork required. But, check with the sales people you're trying to sell to just to insure compliance as it's so new and all that.

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That last couple sentences is what they do i'm pretty sure after looking on their website today. We need more info on this "micro canopy" thing tho i don't like how they always keep everything in the dark.

any thing new on this subject?

I'm curious as well my understanding was with my ommp cards I could sell to a medical shop and report monthly to the OHA, if I want to sell to a dispensary that also does rec sales, then I would need more expensive seed to same software.

Amshif87 said:

I'm curious as well my understanding was with my ommp cards I could sell to a medical shop and report monthly to the OHA, if I want to sell to a dispensary that also does rec sales, then I would need more expensive seed to same software.

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You can sell to 1 that does medical and rec with the ommp provided you paid the fee's when you signed up

I've been looking in to this quite a bit!

My county (Hood River) is changing land use codes to ban rec growing on RR2.5 as are a lot of other counties! EFU lands seem to be safe though they are fucking with set backs.
I live on RR2.5 and have been a grower in the OMMP program for over 6 years.
I can get a micro canopy license and not need a LUCS from my planning office.
I've spoken with both a local land use attorney and Paul Loney a MJ specific attorney and they both think counties are going to have a tough time banning only MJ from RR2.5 especially since Oregon is a right to farm state, Oregon has deemed MJ a farm crop and the only type of farming forbidden on RR2.5 is commercial feed lot cattle ranching.
Some counties are trying to regulate RR2.5 by only allowing indoor to be grown.
The current max allow canopy in SB1598 is 5,000sqft outdoor and 1,250 indoor! That's still a shitload of weed!!
Until Jan 1, 2017 dispensaries will be allowed to take in either medical or rec grown( just like last year)

petert said:

I've been looking in to this quite a bit!

My county (Hood River) is changing land use codes to ban rec growing on RR2.5 as are a lot of other counties! EFU lands seem to be safe though they are fucking with set backs.
I live on RR2.5 and have been a grower in the OMMP program for over 6 years.
I can get a micro canopy license and not need a LUCS from my planning office.
I've spoken with both a local land use attorney and Paul Loney a MJ specific attorney and they both think counties are going to have a tough time banning only MJ from RR2.5 especially since Oregon is a right to farm state, Oregon has deemed MJ a farm crop and the only type of farming forbidden on RR2.5 is commercial feed lot cattle ranching.
Some counties are trying to regulate RR2.5 by only allowing indoor to be grown.
The current max allow canopy in SB1598 is 5,000sqft outdoor and 1,250 indoor! That's still a shitload of weed!!
Until Jan 1, 2017 dispensaries will be allowed to take in either medical or rec grown( just like last year)

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What is RR2.5?

Do you mean rural residential?

Yes..rural residential first use is residence.. Second use is farming.
Where counties are going to run into issues in trying to ban is the "time, place and manner" restrictions. The word " reasonable" is written all over HB3400 and SB1598

Does the sq ft for canopy count immature plants as well? Couldn't find info on this

explosive82 said:

Does the sq ft for canopy count immature plants as well? Couldn't find info on this

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Nvm talked to the dispensary today canopy size is measure only for mature plants doesn't count immature (veg)

If you are applying for a micro canopy license do you have to comply with all this shit? http://www.oregon.gov/olcc/marijuana/Documents/Licensing_Forms/mj_app_all_operating_plan.pdf

seems like a ton of security stuff i'm not totally interested in dealing with

I read it as you must follow 100% of what they are asking for... including the surveillance videos... real pain in the ass... more I look into this the less I like it.

DG1959 said:

I read it as you must follow 100% of what they are asking for... including the surveillance videos... real pain in the ass... more I look into this the less I like it.

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Yea i have a feeling this will put me out of the rec market because alot of this stuff just isn't possible for me.

Yup, and now they have came out with a list of nutrients that will not be allowed.

Been putting the recreational license off hoping to just continue with medical, but now a few of the dispensaries I sell extra flower to have gone recreational and cant buy flower from medical growers. I talked to the OHA and was told most dispensaries will be recreational soon. So medical growers with extra flower are screwed unless we can still find medical dispensaries? I paid a $200 grower fee for myself and my patients just so I could sell the extra and now I cant even do that. Anyone have anymore info on this? I suppose there will still be a few medical dispensaries around but theres a ton of medical growers so wtf?

alagrini said:

Been putting the recreational license off hoping to just continue with medical, but now a few of the dispensaries I sell extra flower to have gone recreational and cant buy flower from medical growers. I talked to the OHA and was told most dispensaries will be recreational soon. So medical growers with extra flower are screwed unless we can still find medical dispensaries? I paid a $200 grower fee for myself and my patients just so I could sell the extra and now I cant even do that. Anyone have anymore info on this? I suppose there will still be a few medical dispensaries around but theres a ton of medical growers so wtf?

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Basically move into rec market or go black market are your only choices why would dispensaries only be medical they basically lose out on 80% of the business doing that. If you are a medical only grower you are effectively pushed out of the market at the start of the year sucks but you kind of had to expect that right? Medical doesn't even have to pay taxes on that shit and the state wants their cut of the cheese

Pretty grim situation. At this point all one can do is transition to recreational if capable otherwise sit by and watch yourself get pushed out.

I think this is all a load of crap. I believe that the state is intentionally setting this up so BIG companies from out of state can make a fortune. We will see more strict and difficult requirements that are hard to implement. The government makes black market viable.... just what they wanted to abolish.

Another way to look at this "IF" you had customers, we are now just like micro brewers, find a way to make it by being the BEST.

The way I see it.. it's not worth it to stay medicinal unless you have an agreement with one of the few remaining medical only dispensaries! Rec dispensaries are allowed to sell to anyone and give medical card holders the tax free discount! Pretty soon medicinal dispensaries will be very few and far between!
That., and the $200 grower fee for EACH patient make it not worth it to me! My county banned recreational growing on Rural Residential land, even though I'm allowed to grow any other crop, they singled out weed as a specialty crop and banned it.
I'm grandfathered to grow medicinally, but they won't allow me to get a micro canopy license!
I'm tempted to apply for the micro because a LUCS permit isn't needed and see if I can fly under the radar!

I think that banning weed in certain counties and towns is bull. I can't understand how they can do it since the voters of Oregon votted to approve it. Our town voted again on weed..... we won again. I called the mayors office the next day and gloated.