Samsung LED Grow lights from Alibaba?

Hollatchaboy

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Well now I need to know how many dismantled heads from Marshall stacks it would take to adequately light up a 4X4. I'm guessing they're not as efficient as the Samsung LM301B/H diodes, but a quick search here tells me no one has tested this yet. Like WTF?
They're quite dim actually. It would take ALOT. Lol
 

Joshjgreen

Active Member
I'm telling ya, if someone were to make vacuum tubes for growing....kinda like a bespoke industry.

They really are the best all-around lighting system....long lasting, efficient.
 

grass_fish

Active Member
Tried some spider style units. 800w in 1000 out China based ballasts. They worked and were "not bad". Not too hot. I will find the china based link, they were easy to deal with friendly and had pictures of them doing business with a large california company. I will share some pics they sent.

The real value in high quality Led's comes from the quality of led and the type of builder. This is why I always point to HLG when the subject comes up.

Like with the 315's Chinese Leds Need Co2. Mine came with separate uv bars, I never ended up using the uv bars. If you are on a budget it can be cheaper to use Chinese units instead of Gavita units. I did tests and the Chinese Led's were as good as running 315's. Not amazing but good.
 

Joshjgreen

Active Member
Yeah, some of those Chinese LEDs got great prices. .....well I like the quantom boards best, but they seem complicated.

Edit: :bigjoint::joint:
 
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bk78

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Tried some spider style units. 800w in 1000 out China based ballasts. They worked and were "not bad". Not too hot. I will find the china based link, they were easy to deal with friendly and had pictures of them doing business with a large california company. I will share some pics they sent.

The real value in high quality Led's comes from the quality of led and the type of builder. This is why I always point to HLG when the subject comes up.

Like with the 315's Chinese Leds Need Co2. Mine came with separate uv bars, I never ended up using the uv bars. If you are on a budget it can be cheaper to use Chinese units instead of Gavita units. I did tests and the Chinese Led's were as good as running 315's. Not amazing but good.
Any link yet? Or pics of your grow under them?
 

Lockedin

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If you have ever ordered anything from alibaba you wouldn't even be considering this.
Iffy Chinese companies with minimal, if any, regulation.
They can have 1 thing listed and send you something else entirely.
China is where most counterfeit good come from, rolexes, name brand clothes, etc.
Just because it had the words samsung on it doesn't mean a damn thing.

Also, returns? Good luck. Expect to pay $100 for shipping back to China, it will cost more to try and get your money back then you spent in the first place.
At least two sides to this coin:

I worked for a knife & tool company that had most of their manufacturing in Taiwan & Japan (Chinese steel is iffy at best).

We had a huge counterfeit problem with Chinese knockoffs - so we spoke with CBP and let them know which shipping port we used, and to confiscate and hold anything that didn't arrive at that port.
--- 2 months later they were holding 2 FULL SHIPPING CONTAINERS of knockoff knives for us to inspect. ---

Many of the Chinese knockoff knives were PERFECT assembled with reject parts from our Taiwan factory - I still have and use a few of them.
So what's the problem? Cheap stuff right????

BUT ---- BUT BUT BUT!!!! --- we also found knives with:
Weak retaining springs (knife opens in your pocket)
Voids in blades - (blade snaps without warning)
Uneven grinds - (inaccurate cutting - watch your fingers!)
Bent blades - (the blade is bent......)
Untempered steel - (won't take or hold an edge)
Inappropriate parts / poor fit - (Frankenstein knives using other brand's parts - Kershaw / Spyder / Cold Steel / Schrade knives._

I hope you can see how iffy that market can be. --- Buyer beware for sure!

However - do your homework, talk with others and consider their experience(s).
Get names & track them down - make a sketchy deal as sure as you can before clicking through that final "Buy Now" button.
I've read enough positive reviews of Meiju & Kingbrite enough that I'm looking through their lineup.

(anyone have a name for Meiju?)
 

V256.420

Well-Known Member
At least two sides to this coin:

I worked for a knife & tool company that had most of their manufacturing in Taiwan & Japan (Chinese steel is iffy at best).

We had a huge counterfeit problem with Chinese knockoffs - so we spoke with CBP and let them know which shipping port we used, and to confiscate and hold anything that didn't arrive at that port.
--- 2 months later they were holding 2 FULL SHIPPING CONTAINERS of knockoff knives for us to inspect. ---

Many of the Chinese knockoff knives were PERFECT assembled with reject parts from our Taiwan factory - I still have and use a few of them.
So what's the problem? Cheap stuff right????

BUT ---- BUT BUT BUT!!!! --- we also found knives with:
Weak retaining springs (knife opens in your pocket)
Voids in blades - (blade snaps without warning)
Uneven grinds - (inaccurate cutting - watch your fingers!)
Bent blades - (the blade is bent......)
Untempered steel - (won't take or hold an edge)
Inappropriate parts / poor fit - (Frankenstein knives using other brand's parts - Kershaw / Spyder / Cold Steel / Schrade knives._

I hope you can see how iffy that market can be. --- Buyer beware for sure!

However - do your homework, talk with others and consider their experience(s).
Get names & track them down - make a sketchy deal as sure as you can before clicking through that final "Buy Now" button.
I've read enough positive reviews of Meiju & Kingbrite enough that I'm looking through their lineup.

(anyone have a name for Meiju?)
Dude don't fuck with Meijiu. bk78 will rip your fucking head off :eyesmoke:

but but but...............................I like you :rolleyes:
 

bk78

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I figured your name gets @ enough - that and your endorsed them a page or two back! :bigjoint:

Any particular recommendation?
I deal personally with Rita Fang, I guess she’s not a sales rep anymore though but still takes my orders.
 

Lockedin

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Dude don't fuck with Meijiu. bk78 will rip your fucking head off :eyesmoke:

but but but...............................I like you :rolleyes:
Was simply saying to watch out for these products.

Some WILL do exactly what they say.

Some just might electrocute you or burn your place down.


edit (thanks BK)
 

V256.420

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Sick bro! Can’t wait to follow your journal with your Ferrari you’re buying.

Be sure to tag me please.
Well bk, when you drive a Ferrari, you surround yourself with more Ferrari's. It's how us billionaires go about our business. Plus I have to keep HLG in business so they can buy Ferrari's too. I wouldn't want those "hard" working men and women of HLG to go without one :rolleyes:
 

ComfortCreator

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Look if you need to buy what would be 5k+ in lights it makes sense to test out options and go with the cheapest reliable product, right? So you need a lot of lighting you make a deal with someone, in this case meiju.

Likewise you need $1k in lighting it might make sense just to use a local mfg/distributor to eliminate the testing part.

So a bk78 who has a ton of lighting and plans to run a long time he gets the good deal. Average dude gets a good deal from a simpler source. Both are good.
 

Northwood

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Well bk, when you drive a Ferrari, you surround yourself with more Ferrari's. It's how us billionaires go about our business. Plus I have to keep HLG in business so they can buy Ferrari's too. I wouldn't want those "hard" working men and women of HLG to go without one :rolleyes:
Well self-proclaimed billionaires with the last name of Trump maybe. But seriously this is the worst financial advice I've heard in at least a month, and I use Reddit! LOL

You realize the only reason I managed to comfortably retire early was because I did the exact opposite? When I was pressured by my peer group to buy a "decked out vet because of my good income situation, I instead bought a used old toyota corolla. I had friends to help me fix it up for free (well for weed), and in those meger times I was able to put away 1k monthly to buy equities (after I bought my first house). I actually still hold many of those originals 40 years later (DRIP), and my income is largely now in the form of dividends and rental income.

I really advise millennials like yourself to put away that frivolous attitude and learn how to live cheaply as you can while investing that money for your future. If your daddy gives you a million dollars allowance every 6 months, then that's a different story. In that case just blow it all on really good coke. Same as Ferrari I guess?
 

Hollatchaboy

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Well self-proclaimed billionaires with the last name of Trump maybe. But seriously this is the worst financial advice I've heard in at least a month, and I use Reddit! LOL

You realize the only reason I managed to comfortably retire early was because I did the exact opposite? When I was pressured by my peer group to buy a "decked out vet because of my good income situation, I instead bought a used old toyota corolla. I had friends to help me fix it up for free (well for weed), and in those meger times I was able to put away 1k monthly to buy equities (after I bought my first house). I actually still hold many of those originals 40 years later (DRIP), and my income is largely now in the form of dividends and rental income.

I really advise millennials like yourself to put away that frivolous attitude and learn how to live cheaply as you can while investing that money for your future. If your daddy gives you a million dollars allowance every 6 months, then that's a different story. In that case just blow it all on really good coke. Same as Ferrari I guess?
I wouldn't be in the situation I'm going to be in, had I gotten advice like that years ago!
 
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