booms111
Well-Known Member
After he took everyones money and started sending out fakes and people realized that he was a con he changed his website at the time to dildo sales.Dildo guy? Care to let some of us in on the joke???
Runtz seeds?
- Thread starter Armyofsprout
- Start date
dubekoms
Well-Known Member
Gu bought fem seeds from copycat or maybe someone else idk. Gu was adamant they were legit but when people started growing them it turns out they were all literal hemp seeds. When copycat was confronted he ended up posting a bunch of dicks on his ig page.Dildo guy? Care to let some of us in on the joke???
0ne_1nch_Punch
Well-Known Member
He's a fucking intolerable cunt if you ask me. That fucking voice of his is like fingernails scraping down a chalkboard.
Coupled with his enormous ego and overzealous use of the word 'nigga' along with his desperate attempts at making his audience believe that he's this big time big shot mack daddy pimpin' player in his own head.
Oh yeah, he's a real Mr Swinging Big Dick as he perceives himself (if you'll pardon the pun).
Coupled with his enormous ego and overzealous use of the word 'nigga' along with his desperate attempts at making his audience believe that he's this big time big shot mack daddy pimpin' player in his own head.
Oh yeah, he's a real Mr Swinging Big Dick as he perceives himself (if you'll pardon the pun).
booms111
Well-Known Member
Im out of the loop and barely visit RIU anymore, has this dickhead made a Intagram video or something that hes using as a platform to rip moe people off?
0ne_1nch_Punch
Well-Known Member
Yeah lad, that's pretty much the gist of it. As far I can tell he's been active across most of the major forms of social media particularly IG and YouTube where he then uses said platform to go on these two hour long tirades and rants utilising his time by reminding everybody of how much of a heavyweight/genius he is while he spends the rest of his time absolutely shitting on the very breeders whose shoulders he stands upon and coattails he rides.
There's a bunch of grow videos by people who claim to have been running his gear floating around YouTube now that serve as quasi-testimonials to the reliability of running his wares. There was mad rumours of hermies being a regular problem with his stuff. In nearly every second video the grower states "...And as you can see, NO HERMS!" nearly as if they were asked to remind the viewer of this by Copycat himself.
One thing I noticed as the most common trait to the plant's is that the majority of them all looked like their nodal stacking wasn't even remotely there. A reasonable sized golf ball nug here, another over there. Yeah, they looked like they would've been nice smoke but that's not paying for your overhead for the next grow at the end of the day.
Last edited:
Armyofsprout
Well-Known Member
so I kept some elev8 Runtz seeds to grow after I moved. I attempted them this third time and got a way better result. I think the genetics are just HIGHLY unstable. But this grow I had the elev8 Runtz compared to the Runtz seeds I got from cookies and they were similar but the cookies seeds won. But here’s a pic of the final elev8 Runtz
Attachments
Fuck that. If it wasn't for him a guy like me wouldn't be able to get my hands onto something that is clones only
nc208
Well-Known Member
So fuck integrity and ethics because you have no connections? OK then.
I agree with him.
Why do people get to own genetics of a natural plant - if the shit is really the truth then the creators should S1 it and make it available......not hold it from the world besides for your friends.....then only a handful of ppl can ever smoke the strains - its stupid to not make clone-onlys into S1s imo.
People are all about the "cannabis culture" they claim - until they see $$$$$ - then they selfishly hold strains and eventually the genetics become completely lost because of their selfishness. If I had something fire as fuck, id share cuts with everyone I could!
higher self
Well-Known Member
About to flip my Runtz S1's from Cannaventure soon. It clones easily too, have extra cuts more than others so I'm thinking about taking it to S2 if it's good enough to chuck with
nc208
Well-Known Member
Ain't nobody selling s1's of landraces so nobody is selling natural plants. There has been years of breeding and selection being done by different breeders who take pride in their work who don't like seeing someone rip off their hard work and undercut them everyone wants to make money off their hard work.
Funny about your comment how some are all about the money. Kinda like Copycat ripping off other breeders hard work to make a quick buck by undercutting them?
higher self
Well-Known Member
So are clone vendors ripping off the breeders or are they paying royalties? Average Joe on strainly who has shitty clones can even make money off selling supposed legit cuts, people will take their chances. I don't support copy cats but I will run some S1's for sure, mainly just CSI & Cannaventure but I'd like to try a few others. I know not to buy from crop king, ilgm, elev8 and all those other sites that have all the popular strains for sale like a candy store.
How much hard work is being put in today?? For sure theres breeders who do.....but if you think any of these guys dropping 10 strains every couple of months are going through rigorous selection - youre outta youre damn mind! Theyre pumping out unstable genetics and charging 200+ per pack.....so thats why guys like copycat and others are S1ing these cuts and charging 100 a pack - because its a steal compared to paying 200+....idk about you, but im yet to smoke anything I'd pay 200+ for a pack, and some of those packs only being 6 fucking seeds!
So i fully support ppl s1ing and selling the seeds, especially if theyre doing so for relatively cheap!
Or so you wanna pay 200-500 a pack for 6 seeds where 5 end up herming and maybe 1 is fire??
nc208
Well-Known Member
I'm not talking about pricing and all that BS. Lots of great vendors out there putting out lots of heat for under 100 a pack. I'm only talking about Copycat stealing people's work that they are currently using and selling.
If you want to s1 an old clone only like CSI does that's fine. But dude straight up goes and reverses breeders latest stuff and is selling it for less than the original breeder. That's what is whack.
And on top of everything I've seen lots of photos of Copycats gear but none of it looks anything close to stuff put out by Seed Junky or Umami, or sunken treasure, crane city, heck even Tiki madman stuff blows copycats out of the water. So maybe there is a point to paying for those more expensive packs.
thenotsoesoteric
Well-Known Member
Copy cat isn't s1'ing people's gear. He is selling bulk Spanish seeds labeled as other people's s1. Dude is a scam artist, not a pollen chucker.
nc208
Well-Known Member
Damn, thanks for the correction.
GlassJoe
Well-Known Member
An acquaintance of mine picked these up from Genetraders NYC and passed them on to me at cost (probably a dumb buy but not very expensive). In general I avoid growing S1s just due to inconsistency, since the parents are often F1 crosses (with parents that have not been inbred to high levels of consistency) and you're basically getting a feminized F2 with high but variable homozygosity. I don't have high expectations (5 might not even be enough seeds to get a good pheno), but hey, why not chuck 'em since I have 'em?
It's not quite as good as taking two non-overlapping inbred populations and crossing them to get a much more consistent heterozygous F1 cross, but it's better than taking two parents that both have a lot of genetic variation and crossing them for F1s that will be all over the place.
I think there are a lot of "breeders" out there pumping out unstable genetics. I prefer to grow more genetically stable stuff (which is why I've gone with HSC for photos and Mephisto for autos in recent times, many of their strains are F3-F6 and more). My impression is that one way the better among those breeders dropping 10 strains pull off some level of consistency is by breeding a single line for consistency, crossing it with a bunch of known strains, and selling the F1s while counting on the consistency of their breeding line.
It's not quite as good as taking two non-overlapping inbred populations and crossing them to get a much more consistent heterozygous F1 cross, but it's better than taking two parents that both have a lot of genetic variation and crossing them for F1s that will be all over the place.
Understand i can agree with you there
Jeez i had no idea, I actually dont know where to get his seeds or anything he has, I just came in to defend others making S1s, as I m almost finished with csi humboldts bubblegum s1, 1st seed popped and found something that seems to be a definite keeper as long as the terps translate (which in bubblegum ime they always do) and as long as its the high ive had from other bubblegums or better....but looks/vigor/structure are all great. I m at days 61 of flowering and its gonna finish in under a week for sure. Cant wait to run my csi humboldt mendo purps s1
thenotsoesoteric
Well-Known Member
I almost grabbed those mendo purp s1 too. Should be dank right there