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cheechako

cheechako

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Some of us use the metaphor of "growing tomatoes". Ed Rosenthal thinks that should be the model. If you can grow a small personal grow (hydro, whatever) for weed, you can do it for tomatoes. Some people do. It is the most grown personal food item afaik. Yet at the same time, people buy them at the store and companies make money processing and packaging.

Yes, people are lazy or want to go out for it or whatever. Some people will grow their own and share or trade or even sell at farmers' markets and so on.

Will the model work like that? I have no idea. But legalization would most certainly lower the cost of something that is relatively easy and cheap to grow. Legalization with tons of regulations could still keep a large black market (and cost) in place.

Moebius said:
Beer is the fermentation of hops. Hops cost next to nothing. 1oz for (im guessing) $5
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I'm not sure what hops cost. They are much trickier to grow and only do well in certain areas. Recent weather issues and other factors have created some shortages which drove up prices and left a lot of micro-breweries looking for alternatives. That could be part of what gave rise to the more recent creative efforts from the small guys. But there's also a trend towards IPAs (eww), so they get hops somewhere.
 
Moebius

Moebius

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cheechako said:
Some of us use the metaphor of "growing tomatoes". Ed Rosenthal thinks that should be the model. If you can grow a small personal grow (hydro, whatever) for weed, you can do it for tomatoes. Some people do. It is the most grown personal food item afaik. Yet at the same time, people buy them at the store and companies make money processing and packaging.

Yes, people are lazy or want to go out for it or whatever. Some people will grow their own and share or trade or even sell at farmers' markets and so on.

Will the model work like that? I have no idea. But legalization would most certainly lower the cost of something that is relatively easy and cheap to grow. Legalization with tons of regulations could still keep a large black market (and cost) in place.



I'm not sure what hops cost. They are much trickier to grow and only do well in certain areas. Recent weather issues and other factors have created some shortages which drove up prices and left a lot of micro-breweries looking for alternatives. That could be part of what gave rise to the more recent creative efforts from the small guys. But there's also a trend towards IPAs (eww), so they get hops somewhere.
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I agree with much of what you say. but.

People still buy tomatoes in the store because they are cheaper than growing at home. and available fresh when needed.

Cannabis is different in a few ways. It's consumed dry so it stores for much longer. One plant can yield enough to keep a moderate smoker going for months.

Most growers I know will never again pay for bud, unless its something special.
 
cheechako

cheechako

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Moebius said:
I agree with much of what you say. but.

People still buy tomatoes in the store because they are cheaper than growing at home. and available fresh when needed.

Cannabis is different in a few ways. It's consumed dry so it stores for much longer. One plant can keep yield enough to keep a moderate smoker going for months.

Most growers I know will never again pay for bud, unless its something special.
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We can say "like tomatoes" or "like beer" or whatever. We can really only guess what legalization would lead to because nothing is really like this. The more it is regulated and restricted, the more there is a black market for it, and the higher prices are.

But what if it were legal? Sure, it is easy enough to grow. Some won't. Some can't. And where do we start? Will clones and seeds and new strains suddenly be free if/when we are free to grow?

So we can speculate "what will it be like," but that is all we can do. AFAIK, Washington is looking at selling it in stores and controlled by the liquor board. I think that is wrong. If they must regulate it, then at least keep it apart from that. For some, it is a choice and not a combo. It should be easy enough for regulations (if they must be there) to feed into that mentality.
 
charface

charface

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Yeah in my town there is already a smoke shop. It opened a few years ago and struggled. However they are poised to dominate now. Perfect one stop shop
 
atavistic

atavistic

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So one scenario could be modeled on a food co-op / credit union. Deposit your harvest, and be able to select samples of strains from other co-op members for withdrawal. Minor amount to cover overhead. In America, tough to blaze at the shop given stoned driving issues, and smoking bans in most urban areas.

Definitely needs to be close to a bakery.
 
Moebius

Moebius

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atavistic said:
So one scenario could be modeled on a food co-op / credit union. Deposit your harvest, and be able to select samples of strains from other co-op members for withdrawal. Minor amount to cover overhead. In America, tough to blaze at the shop given stoned driving issues, and smoking bans in most urban areas.
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That would almost certainly happen online. if its not already. .... if full decriminalization were to take place, I could see apps being developed to aid in the process.

The model for swapping clones could be like 'Torrents'. In fact its a bit like that anyhow.
 
see4

see4

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Metasynth said:
I hand out weed to three different people completely at my own expense. When I can't afford it, they get less...and when times are good, they're good for everyone. I don't think anyone should have to pay for weed, and I feel bad trying to recoup my losses even. I figure the money I save NOT buying weed for myself pays for my grow and electricity easily, so if I have excess, I don't mind giving some to friends in need.
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I'm the same way with close friends. In fact I have a friend who hardly smokes, I'm always asking him, "hey man, you want some? just take some, you never know when you'll need it", Only a few friends get the star treatment. I have many others who come to me, and I have to turn them down. I like profit as much as the next guy, but for me, it comes down to legality. If they aren't a mmj patient, I can't sell it to them.
 
nitro harley

nitro harley

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Metasynth said:
I hand out weed to three different people completely at my own expense. When I can't afford it, they get less...and when times are good, they're good for everyone. I don't think anyone should have to pay for weed, and I feel bad trying to recoup my losses even. I figure the money I save NOT buying weed for myself pays for my grow and electricity easily, so if I have excess, I don't mind giving some to friends in need.
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I am like you, I just give it away.....I like growing ...I have plenty so I share with family and friends......I don't sell pot ever because I have to much at risk, can't afford to get in trouble....and the money it cost to grow is less than what I used to pay for pot........nitro..
 
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