Religion Has Done More Bad Than Good

No...... just a slight derailment folks...... enjoy the complimentary donuts and coffee.... we'll have the train rolling in no time... Choo Choo.... uh Puff puff.

Stoney did u read that article I posted...?

What evidence do I need to give you (i have given you a tiny bit and you choose not to believe) will you only believe once you have been told by the tv or your goverment ??????

Crackerjax... come on man... do you believe that people go into goverment ... law etc ...for our interest ?

Does your logic suggest that Goverment is there to serve us and protect us blah blah blah .... even though you know they lie, steal from us etc etc etc.. Loads evidence to support the opposite.

Crackerjax.. please tell me what you think happened during the mix up with wtc 7 please with the bbc ?

You mean the novella?Yes, I did...It's right on the money,I don't disagree with any of it,so I didn't feel the need to dissect it.I still have the god delusion of my computer,waiting to be watched, but I just haven't gotten around to it.Most of my conclusions were reached on my own over my life,and I'm pretty surprised to see them shared by greater minds than mine.Just think, Richard Dawkins and a smalltown Iowa housewife are both saying pretty much the same thing,lol.

CrackerJax said:

No...... just a slight derailment folks...... enjoy the complimentary donuts and coffee.... we'll have the train rolling in no time... Choo Choo.... uh Puff puff.

Stoney did u read that article I posted...?

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Stoney McFried said:

You mean the novella?Yes, I did...It's right on the money,I don't disagree with any of it,so I didn't feel the need to dissect it.I still have the god delusion of my computer,waiting to be watched, but I just haven't gotten around to it.Most of my conclusions were reached on my own over my life,and I'm pretty surprised to see them shared by greater minds than mine.Just think, Richard Dawkins and a smalltown Iowa housewife are both saying pretty much the same thing,lol.

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Dawkins has an amazing mind..... voted to be the greatest living mind in the UK right now. That's a high compliment. That might just make you the smartest Iowan housewife....

What was especially interesting was the "theological" side of it. The author starts out with an evolution mea culpa.....
It was ESPECIALLY interesting to see where she stated that early Christians didn't really think the Bible was word for word history or the actual word of G*D. The corruption took place much later on.

Poor Fish......



Atrillus .... go to 9/11 debunked if you want to discuss it further. I'll be more than willing to shoot ur fish in a barrel there...

Thank you CrackerJax... However I must decline as I have no desire to talk about 9/11 fiasco ... My long winded point was to show you folks that the media in the UK and the world is being manipulated by higher powers. Just because something is not official it does not mean that it is not true; please don’t use the word conspiracy like it’s a joke... A lot of conspiracy theories have been proven right..... Eratosthenes said the world was round but no one believed him and laughed and accused him of a conspiracy. There are so many examples of this and so many examples of bad theories as well.

I would like to say only... please all think for your selfs, question everything, respect your fellow man, be yourself, dont be affraid of anything and most importantly be patient and wait for those lovely little amber trichomes to come.

Peace

Stoney McFried said:

I've been thinking about stuff like this...flags are just symbolism,a way of trying to categorize.....a way to simplify something,to make it accessible to everyone,easier to understand,when the reality is so much more complex,it can't be condensed into one symbol or another. That's why I'm not really against flag burners,because it's really just their way of trying to say that one little part of something is not the sum of it. The American Flag is supposed to symbolize freedom,free speech,the "American Way", but I think we can all agree it doesn't tell the whole story, and it's not even really what America is about anymore. We cling to symbols like that because to some, they become almost like false idols....they give them more power than they really have.If you tear a flag into pieces, it can't clothe all the people it is supposed to represent.

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This is what I wrote in another thread about symbolism,which that article also touched on.God is just a symbol for the unknowable,basically...and it's my belief that symbols exist to simplify things...but they can't truly represent every facet of the story.Religion simplifies things by giving us a myth to apply to something we don't understand. When we don't understand something, we tend to be a little intimidated by it.The religious mind seeks to be given the answers...the easy way...the scientific mind seeks to find the answers themself,to "see it with their own eyes",so to speak.
I think with early Christianity, there were a lot of converted pagans and polytheists...they had been so used to the worship of multiple dieties that they knew there were many sides to a story,so one god who did it all might have been a step back for them in their thought processes.And I don't thin as many of them would have joined if the Christians were all yelling about the vengeful god,punishment, etc.That came later, as a means of control, when the next generation was born, knowing nothing else but what they had been taught about the one god. So when presented with only one option, "behave this way, or this will happen," they didn't really have anything else to turn to...most people back then were primarily concerned with survival...and utter nothingness is a scary thing to contemplate, because we don't understand it.(I mean, can you really SEE the color clear?Aren't you just seeing whatever color is behind it?) One of the main reasons for religion is the human's natural fear of death.They want everything to be easy,to know what's happening,because we're wired to know that uncertainty or hesitation can sometimes mean death....(Stop and ponder your options when that cave lion is chasing you, and most likely, he eats you...run along with the pack, and you stand a chance of survival.)But we're no longer in the times where we have to fight to survive as much.We have the luxury of contemplation that many of our ancestors did not.I think that's why it's taken so long for us to shrug off religion.

CrackerJax said:

Dawkins has an amazing mind..... voted to be the greatest living mind in the UK right now. That's a high compliment. That might just make you the smartest Iowan housewife....

What was especially interesting was the "theological" side of it. The author starts out with an evolution mea culpa.....
It was ESPECIALLY interesting to see where she stated that early Christians didn't really think the Bible was word for word history or the actual word of G*D. The corruption took place much later on.

Poor Fish......



Atrillus .... go to 9/11 debunked if you want to discuss it further. I'll be more than willing to shoot ur fish in a barrel there...

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I couldn't agree with you more.It's very similar to what we've been saying.

Atrilius said:

I would like to say only... please all think for your selfs, question everything, respect your fellow man, be yourself, dont be affraid of anything and most importantly be patient and wait for those lovely little amber trichomes to come.

Peace

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Stoney McFried said:

Man, that beautiful post, lost in the shuffle...so are we talking about conspiracy theories now?

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No, it wasn't lost in the Shuffle, I thought it was a great, InSightful Post... Thanks for sharing.. Some people only Address personal Agenda's tho'... Your post probably didn't fit that Arena

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Thanks, brazko.I do tend to get pissy with religious types sometimes, because many of them are so close minded.They cannot admit that their way is not the only way.If you can't admit you may be wrong, then you are letting fear of the unknown keep you from growing mentally.

Brazko said:

No, it wasn't lost in the Shuffle, I thought it was a great, InSightful Post... Thanks for sharing.. Some people only Address personal Agenda's tho'... Your post probably didn't fit that Arena

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There are sects of Christianity who desire to take out all of the boogedy boo and miracle voodoo from the Bible, but they keep running into the same problem.

There just isn't a whole lot left. Other books can address the same problems with much more cohesion and comprehension. Take away the goobly goo from the Bible, and it becomes extremely ordinary.

P.S. whenever someone says GREAT POST BACK THERE.... leave the post number. It's easier. TY... Then everyone knows INSTANTLY which post.

Right...people need to realize that since we are all different, the only one who can interpret the answers in a satisfactory manner is you yourself.What's truth for some is not truth for others.Kinda like self help books...I don't read them, can't understand doing so...because you have to HELP YOURSELF! If you won't examine the facts and see for yourself,how can you ever expect to truly know something?If you're taking someone else's word for something,then you're not thinking for yourself. Hell, DON'T believe me when I say evolutions occurs...get out there and look at all the information that's available...and make sure there's no agenda behind it.Take everything with a grain of salt.

CrackerJax said:

There are sects of Christianity who desire to take out all of the boogedy boo and miracle voodoo out of the Bible, but they keep running into the same problem.

There just isn't a whole lot left. Other books can address the same problems with much more cohesion and comprehension. Take away the goobly goo from the Bible, and it becomes extremely ordinary.

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If you want to be current in scientific studies, get urself a subscription to Nature.

That's what science is all about..... studying Nature.

The funny thing is we are all the same geneticly almost to much the same thats why we see so many birth defects and we never progress. Compared to other species we are fucked we lost or natural instincts. We no longer have a fight or flight its hand them your wallet and thank a fake god he didnt kill you.

If we where like any other species we would either run or fight and eat him to live another day or minute maybe because life is that short and you REALLY only get ONE no matter what some book told you. After the lights are out it worms and larva for you buddy.

Yup.Or just go outside, lol.

CrackerJax said:

If you want to be current in scientific studies, get urself a subscription to Nature.

That's what science is all about..... studying Nature.

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I believe that,too.We're becoming weaker as a species.Eventually even technology won't be able to stop it...we either evolve or die.

snail240 said:

The funny thing is we are all the same geneticly almost to much the same thats why we see so many birth defects and we never progress. Compared to other species we are fucked we lost or natural instincts. We no longer have a fight or flight its hand them your wallet and thank a fake god he didnt kill you.

If we where like any other species we would either run or fight and eat him to live another day or minute maybe because life is that short and you REALLY only get ONE no matter what some book told you. After the lights are out it worms and larva for you buddy.

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http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/evolfact.htm Why not credit your source?

zorkan said:

"Approximately 15 billion years ago, life began..."
"No, it was more like 7 billion years ago..."
"Uh, well, the earth probably began about..."
"The strata may show..."
"Well, we evolutionists don't exactly agree about when, why or how the world began, but...


evolution is a fact and you are unscientific if you don't believe it?"




It is interesting to me how scientist have tricked everyone into believing in evolution. Evolution is not:

• repeatable,
• testable; or,
• observable.

In other words, it doesn't even qualify as real science. Mmmm...I don't think You'll ever get me to believe a monkey is my uncle, a rat is my cousin, and that lice are my near kinsmen. Unless it's proven, as of now it's not!

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Still reporting you as spamming, because you keep posting the same thing, over and over,on multiple threads.

zorkan said:

"Approximately 15 billion years ago, life began..."
"No, it was more like 7 billion years ago..."
"Uh, well, the earth probably began about..."
"The strata may show..."
"Well, we evolutionists don't exactly agree about when, why or how the world began, but...


evolution is a fact and you are unscientific if you don't believe it?"





It is interesting to me how scientist have tricked everyone into believing in evolution. Evolution is not:

• repeatable,
• testable; or,
• observable.

In other words, it doesn't even qualify as real science. Mmmm...I don't think You'll ever get me to believe a monkey is my uncle, a rat is my cousin, and that lice are my near kinsmen. Unless it's proven, as of now it's not!

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easy man, they dont like to hear the truth

fish601 said:

easy man, they dont like to hear the truth

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I'm fine with anyone speaking the truth as they see it, even if I think they are wrong. It's pathetic fucking spammers that I have a problem with.

fish601 said:

easy man, they dont like to hear the truth

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Any scientist is seeking the truth and will do this through trial and error, coalating the evidence as they go along to find the most logical answer. Prove it wrong with logical evidence not the hearsay of gospel and they wont be deaf to what your saying.

I steped on a nail to save a rolly polly. WORSHIP ME!!