CrackerJax
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Religion is driven by insecurity. The greater the belief, the greater the insecurities. 
Have a little faith.....in man.
Have a little faith.....in man.
Religion Has Done More Bad Than Good
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Stoney McFried
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Uh I did.I'll translate it to modern English."After you whip the shit out of these fuckers and occupy their city, I want you to brutalize their women because I'm a misogynist pig of a diety who has no mercy unless it's convenient for me to show some."
No.I haven't.Because if there is a god, and he is the god of the bible,then I will not worship him no matter what.I won't accept the guilt trip of Jesus.I will not bow down to a tyrant who demands obedience and brutality in his name.I don't care if he kills me or burns me.It even says in your bible that YOU ARE THE SHEEP.Anyone who reads that, and some of the other quotes from that book, and says,"Hey, I can really get down with this" is either ignorant or masochistic.There is no judgment day, and fear is a tool to control the weak.I am my own god.
yep its rape no doubt about that NOW read it in context
half the city to be slain yep and so? G*D killed millions of people during the flood...
never use the bible to project G*D as merciful or generous LOL he has been merciful and gernerous by sending jesus but just wait till judgement day. the bible says fear the lord!!!! i am afraid you have been mislead
If jesus was nailed to a giant bread stick would he still be jesus? The cross most have made him holy or was it the nails? Ah shit here we go agian witch fair tail we talking about? Oh yeah the one guy that made fish in to bread what do you guys call chris angel? Modern jesus?
Jesus was a guy that invented the now you see it now you dont trick. Now hes famous I mean god damn every person that can play tricks on your head must be your new chosen lord now?
If I could make you beleive I turned water in to wine I would be your new jesus? If I killed me self to save another I would be jesus right and have a book writen after me and all of you would go whorship me right? Or jesus is special because hes "gods" sun? I want a DNA test call Maury because im the daddy.
Even if jesus was real wheres the proof? I mean I think its pretty simple to see he was made up when every picture of him looks different. Even santa looks the same in pictures and has more backup then jesus.
Jesus was a guy that invented the now you see it now you dont trick. Now hes famous I mean god damn every person that can play tricks on your head must be your new chosen lord now?
If I could make you beleive I turned water in to wine I would be your new jesus? If I killed me self to save another I would be jesus right and have a book writen after me and all of you would go whorship me right? Or jesus is special because hes "gods" sun? I want a DNA test call Maury because im the daddy.
Even if jesus was real wheres the proof? I mean I think its pretty simple to see he was made up when every picture of him looks different. Even santa looks the same in pictures and has more backup then jesus.
hanimmal
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Interesting.No.I haven't.Because if there is a god, and he is the god of the bible,then I will not worship him no matter what.I won't accept the guilt trip of Jesus.I will not bow down to a tyrant who demands obedience and brutality in his name.I don't care if he kills me or burns me.It even says in your bible that YOU ARE THE SHEEP.Anyone who reads that, and some of the other quotes from that book, and says,"Hey, I can really get down with this" is either ignorant or masochistic.There is no judgment day, and fear is a tool to control the weak.I am my own god.Quote:
Originally Posted by fish601
yep its rape no doubt about that NOW read it in context
half the city to be slain yep and so? G*D killed millions of people during the flood...
never use the bible to project G*D as merciful or generous LOL he has been merciful and gernerous by sending jesus but just wait till judgement day. the bible says fear the lord!!!! i am afraid you have been mislead
Lets say that we all follow the bible Fish.
We all do exactly what it says, and according to the new test. are going to be able to go into heaven.
Well God has changed his mind before right (old/new) and written new books. Well what happens if the rapture, or sometime we are in heaven and he changes it again? And we all end up in hell, which is his invention if he created everything right?
And since he created hell, he did so because he is petty and wanted to torture everyone for not doing exactly what he wanted them to do. So it is like us watching ants and saying anyone that goes to this spot of honey I put here is going o be burnt with a magnifying glass. He put the fruit in the same garden as Adam and Eve, he knew we would take the bite and ruin all mankind. So he set us up to fail!
SO if it was the case that all mankind fell in line and did exactly what it was and avoided every trap that he had set up for us, in order to not be a part of his sadistic fun by burning in hell that he created for our souls to be tortured for all eternity, what says that he would not get bored of it and torture us anyway? While in heaven what would stop him from creating another bible that sets us up to fail yet again (Eve and the apple) so that he can go back to his game of heaven and hell?
CrackerJax
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There's an old carny saying invented by P.T.Barnum, "there's a sucker born every minute".
Not so says the church...... there's one born every "second". They have a very effective net to scoop them up with. It's almost laughable, if the church didn't do so much damage to society.
Almost laughable.....but not quite.
Not so says the church...... there's one born every "second". They have a very effective net to scoop them up with. It's almost laughable, if the church didn't do so much damage to society.
Almost laughable.....but not quite.
jfgordon1
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I honestly don't blame kids for believing it when their parents force it down their throat at such a young age. When people tell you will burn for eternity if you don't believe... that tends to catch peoples (youngsters) attention. However, when you reach a certain age.. you should realize that the game is rigged.... and they want your money.
Brainwashing !
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You can see their fear in their eyes...
poor kids
kronic1989
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The only god of mine is the SUN. Without it. Nothing of this would exist. I just accept that it is there, and I am grateful for it.
This jesus is put in by the underground society that runs this world. It is there to define who they want you to be. How they want to mould you.
Like earlier said. We are all sheep. The government and whoever else it is thats running the show, has done a quite considerably good job, or raping this world for what its worth. Imposing fear and famine.
This jesus is put in by the underground society that runs this world. It is there to define who they want you to be. How they want to mould you.
Like earlier said. We are all sheep. The government and whoever else it is thats running the show, has done a quite considerably good job, or raping this world for what its worth. Imposing fear and famine.
fish601
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God isnt making this up as he goes
you have a choice you can believe science or you can believe God
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Romans 1 Read This Chapter[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]1:20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse[/FONT]
God does not want us to suffer
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]1 John 4 Read This Chapter[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]4:10 This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.[/FONT]
He did not want us to make the choice to eat the fruit
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Genesis 6 Read This Chapter[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]6:6 The Lord was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]He knew we were gona mess it up and from the beginning he had a plan [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Joh 3:16 - Show Context "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Romans 6 Read This Chapter[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. [/FONT]
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CrackerJax
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No, man is making it up...... figure it out.
CrackerJax
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That's just one of natures little perks to keep reproduction rates and hand lotion sales up. 
kronic1989
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i am not going to trash god. or jesus. they may very well have existed. And If god does exist, he will accept me for who i am and what I do. No harm no foul.
jfgordon1
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hanimmal
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God isnt making this up as he goes
There is no reason for it to be even in existence. He is the source of knowledge right? Not a tree.
(side note: I need to look into pagan religions for 'tree of life' and forbidden fruit that give intelligence. I am betting it is a different early religion that this spawned from.)
And why is there two books that were 1500 years apart? I thought it was to change all the old laws that were in the old testimate? Even still why not just make the first book all encompassing?
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So it is ok not to believe in god? I thought that was one of the things that bought a a trip to the oven.
So then why does he allow things in the world that make us suffer. He did not have to put the tree in eden right? So why did he. If it was not a mistake, then it had to have been on purpose. I get that he sent his 'son?' down here to get tortured and killed, but really did he have to? Couldn't he have done it without slaughtering his child? I know that the church said it was to show how torturous the world is, and to give us a real world example of how much he cares about us, but why not just wipe out all sinful nature? Would that not be more godly?
So why did he not just not have that in the garden of eden? That one tree could have been crystalized if it had to be on the planet, but really if he is able to do anything, why would it need to be on the planet? He did not have to make it in the first place.
There is no reason for it to be even in existence. He is the source of knowledge right? Not a tree.
(side note: I need to look into pagan religions for 'tree of life' and forbidden fruit that give intelligence. I am betting it is a different early religion that this spawned from.)
But why did he need to do this? If he is all, then he would have known by putting that tree in that he would have to create hell, and one day his son that would then have to be tortured and killed. It would have all been fine if he had not put that tree in the garden of Eden.
And why is there two books that were 1500 years apart? I thought it was to change all the old laws that were in the old testimate? Even still why not just make the first book all encompassing?
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fish601
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we have a choice to obey he said dont eat it,
Genesis 2:17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die."
thats a new one to me
we really wouldnt have a choice then,
he could make you believe in him but he has given you a choice
if you believe the bible its kinda simple
adam eve the first people and all there kids certainly new the story. so if there is a "early religion" that claims says that i can tell you where they got the idea from
some really smart people can give you some really good answers but me.. i am fine with knowing god can do what he wants and its been done so i accept it
there are many of phrophecies in the Old testament i am glad 1500 years passed by so that noone can doubt the fulfilled phrophecies most of which are recorded in the new testament
the phrophecy of how jesus was to die had not even been invented at the time it was written, put that ontop of the people who killed him did not believe in god and god used them to fulfil it and that is one of alot of phrophecies
pinkus
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K...first paragraph uses it's own claims to prove itself...a logical NO NO.
second paragraph...if god is omnipotent it was preordained bro.
you are gonna have better sales for Christ in another venue...CJ and Hannimal won't crack...you have however cracked me up
hanimmal
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But why put it there? That is the big part of this that does not make any sense. He did not have to do that. Really does God need a tree of knowledge?
If not for that one thing, the bible would not even need to have been written, because we would never would have had sin! That one tree undid everything and resulted in every single act of violence throughout our history, just that one tree has caused people to falsely burn thousands of women at the stake for being witches, enslaving entire races, the haulocaust, gay people, abortions, murders, theivery, murder, rape, everything!
Just that one tree is the reason for it all. So why would he put it there?
Unless he wanted to see us all suffer. Because we are talking about gods will. And it would not have been there if it was not his will.
CrackerJax
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He believes the book. The book tells him to believe.
let's just be glad he doesn't read Mein Kampf.
let's just be glad he doesn't read Mein Kampf.
pinkus
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fish601
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well i said most not all, there are enuf accurate prophecies proven by other historical writtings to lead me to beleive that the bible is good enuf to assume the other prohecies are accurate as well
i am not capable of cracking them i am not even trying,, all this is doing is making me think how silly evolution is something that i once accepted and how right and well thought out the bible is NOW i know there are some very hard to understand scriptures but i believe there is enuf evidence to prove its the word of god and i just have to accept the hard to understand onesyou are gonna have better sales for Christ in another venue...CJ and Hannimal won't crack...you have however cracked me up