Regalia / other fungicides .. .

Will the citric acid kill my spider friends I have accrued in my grow room? I’ve been slowly locking every spider I find in there and I haven’t seen many gnats or anything else lately. But lots of spiders now whenever I move plants or sweep. Maybe I’ll hold off the on the spray.

I honestly hated spiders before but now they are growing on me. Literally.

Milky Weed said:

Will the citric acid kill my spider friends I have accrued in my grow room? I’ve been slowly locking every spider I find in there and I haven’t seen many gnats or anything else lately. But lots of spiders now whenever I move plants or sweep. Maybe I’ll hold off the on the spray.

I honestly hated spiders before but now they are growing on me. Literally.

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I'm not sure, but I suspect it would work. It definitely kills spider mites, but it might only work if you spray it directly on them. I think it works by desiccation.

I've been using Regalia CG for over 2 years now after an impossible case of PM that forced me to start from square one.

I am growing in soil and I spray Regalia every week during veg, at 30 ml per gallon. Seedlings get sprayed immediately and then weekly.

I also use Marrone's Venerate for pests weekly, at 45 ml per gallon. I use them together.

I normally discontinue use of both about the 2nd week of flower on indoor plants, but for outdoor plants I'd use it right up until a week before harvest, if needed.

I have also used it as a dip for clones...A great idea if you bring a clone in from an outside source.

Zero problems indoors with pm, but rot, or bugs since using these 2 certified organic products. People complain about the price but it works out to a few dollars a week for a few tents full of plants. Very cheap insurance I say.

manfredo said:

I've been using Regalia CG for over 2 years now after an impossible case of PM that forced me to start from square one.

I am growing in soil and I spray Regalia every week during veg, at 30 ml per gallon. Seedlings get sprayed immediately and then weekly.

I also use Marrone's Venerate for pests weekly, at 45 ml per gallon. I use them together.

I normally discontinue use of both about the 2nd week of flower on indoor plants, but for outdoor plants I'd use it right up until a week before harvest, if needed.

I have also used it as a dip for clones...A great idea if you bring a clone in from an outside source.

Zero problems indoors with pm, but rot, or bugs since using these 2 certified organic products. People complain about the price but it works out to a few dollars a week for a few tents full of plants. Very cheap insurance I say.

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This is the feedback I was wanting to hear. Thanks for your reply. It makes me feel better about my organic grow I'm starting, knowing that regalia and Southern AG are both Organic.

CaseyQuinn said:

This is the feedback I was wanting to hear. Thanks for your reply. It makes me feel better about my organic grow I'm starting, knowing that regalia and Southern AG are both Organic.

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I may have already said it in this thread someplace, but if you ever need a wetting agent for your foliars, yucca extract works great AND it is being used as an organic anti-fungal agent in Europe against Apple Scab. I love when products do multiple things for you. With the Southern Ag and Regalia, I don't think you'll have any problems in the future.

Rurumo said:

I may have already said it in this thread someplace, but if you ever need a wetting agent for your foliars, yucca extract works great AND it is being used as an organic anti-fungal agent in Europe against Apple Scab. I love when products do multiple things for you. With the Southern Ag and Regalia, I don't think you'll have any problems in the future.

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I bought some RAW Yucca because I was intrigued. I just not sure how much to use. Need to look back at all my screenshots. Lol. I think a little pinch goes a long ways. Thanks again guys. I'm soaking it all in. I'm actually about to build my soil for my Northern Lights transplant soon. She's 2 months Veg. & getting huge. So I figured I'd I build today & let soil "cook" for another 3 or 4 weeks. Then I'll flip her to flower in her new home (from a 5 to 7 gallon). She's in straight Ocean Forrest now. I have a bag of Stawberry Fields too. So I need to use what I got. But I heard drainage is meh with F.F.S.F. so I am adding green sand & a little Azomite too.

manfredo said:

I've been using Regalia CG for over 2 years now after an impossible case of PM that forced me to start from square one.

I am growing in soil and I spray Regalia every week during veg, at 30 ml per gallon. Seedlings get sprayed immediately and then weekly.

I also use Marrone's Venerate for pests weekly, at 45 ml per gallon. I use them together.

I normally discontinue use of both about the 2nd week of flower on indoor plants, but for outdoor plants I'd use it right up until a week before harvest, if needed.

I have also used it as a dip for clones...A great idea if you bring a clone in from an outside source.

Zero problems indoors with pm, but rot, or bugs since using these 2 certified organic products. People complain about the price but it works out to a few dollars a week for a few tents full of plants. Very cheap insurance I say.

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It's funny you mention the price. I think the price is fair. The application rate for venerate is 1tbsp/quart or .52 oz/quart. 32oz/.52=61.53 quarts of solution. 61.53/4=15.38 gallons of solution. Compare that to most other pesticides on the shelf. Mighty wash anyone? Nuke 'em? It took me about a year to burn down a single bottle of venerate. Even azamax is absurdly overpriced considering the application rates recommended and it is very popular.

For instance azamax's suggested application rate is 4tbsp/gallon so you get the same amount of gallons as venerate out of a quart. The difference is venerate only costs about $60 for a quart. Azamax is nearly double the price at $108.99 for a quart. In the grand scheme of things it is a relatively good value and should last most indoor gardeners a considerable amount of time. Especially if you're rotating it with other products as part of an IPM regimen.

Rurumo said:

I may have already said it in this thread someplace, but if you ever need a wetting agent for your foliars, yucca extract works great AND it is being used as an organic anti-fungal agent in Europe against Apple Scab. I love when products do multiple things for you. With the Southern Ag and Regalia, I don't think you'll have any problems in the future.

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I'll second that on the yucca. I tried coco wet and burned the hell out of my plants. Awful awful stuff. Never had a problem with yucca and went back to it without issue.

Can you please tell me how you use them together?

Rurumo said:

You should definitely check out Southern Ag Garden Friendly Fungicide. Even calling it a "fungicide" is just marketing semantics because it just contains bacillus amyloliquefaciens, which is a plant growth promoting rhizobacteria. If you spray it on your plants regularly, it outcompetes pathogens AND creates chitinase in the presence of chitin (crab/shrimp/lobster meal, barley malt, etc) or chitosan. A GREAT combo, for both root drenches and foliar is the Southern Ag GFF and a chitosan product-I've been using Hyshield lately. These two products together will stimulate ISR/SAR, promote growth, and create a hostile environment for pathogens, fungal and insect. You can buy a small bottle of GFF for $8 on Amazon, it is by far the most cost effective microbial inoculant on the market.

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Can you

plumsmooth said:

Can you please tell me how you use them together?



Can you

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I use Southern A.G. & Regalia in conjunction. I'll do one every 2 weeks throughout complete life cycle of grow. For example, use Southern A.G. garden friendly fungicide, then wait 2 weeks, then use Regalia, then wait 2 weeks, then use Southern A.G. , wait 2 weeks, Then Regalia, etc..

I got some Hyshield coming

I was wondering about trying to get the Bacillus to actually establish and live on the leaves? I wonder if adding a Little Microbe food i.e. MycoChum or Molasses would make this happen to the point -- where when Powdery Mildew Spores landed the would get eaten. I believe there is a mysterious Ladybug Yellow instead of red that easts Powdery Mildew?

CaseyQuinn said:

I use Southern A.G. & Regalia in conjunction. I'll do one every 2 weeks throughout complete life cycle of grow. For example, use Southern A.G. garden friendly fungicide, then wait 2 weeks, then use Regalia, then wait 2 weeks, then use Southern A.G. , wait 2 weeks, Then Regalia, etc..

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plumsmooth said:

I got some Hyshield coming

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For me.. it was all about getting my environment right. My airflow is much better now & I have air purifiers in room. Havnt had anymore issues since. Although I still use the Southern AG & Regalia anyways just to be sure. After throwing away a pound of bud.. . Well, you'll only do that once. If ya can help it. Ha

plumsmooth said:

Can you please tell me how you use them together?

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Do what the label says..
The manufacturer's recommend once a week foliar, once a month root application for Regalia
Most manufactures recommend the same rate for bacillus amyloliquefaciens, but only Hygard says 3-5x a week for both foliar and roots.
Maybe to get it colonized, but that seems excessive. There are different strains of B.amyloliquefaciens which work better than others.

Don't add any microbe food(especially not sugars), use surfecant, you want it to colonize the plant not feed it lunch. Regalia doesn't need surfecant, its either a natural one or has some in it already.
I don't see much literature for tank mixing the 2, doubt its antagonistic. I tank mix Regalia with a wide range of products.

Regalia Foliar Applications
2 tbsp/gallon of water per 1000 sq. ft. Apply at a 7 day interval
Soil-based or Soil-less Growing Media Applications
2 tbsp/gallon of water per 1000 sq. ft. Apply at a 21-28 day interval

HYGARD FOLIAR APPLICATONS:
Dilute 0.12-0.25 per gallon of water and spray with lights turned off on foliage.
Spray 3-5 times per week.
DRENCH APPLICATION:
Dilute 0.12-0.25 per gallon of water and apply directly to root zone 3-5 times per week.