RED Mylar for flowering???

smokecat

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Isn't it more likely that the tomato comparison was between plants with a reflective underlay vs plants with plain dirt or dark underlay? That would really explain The issue. Extra light bouncing back up vs a plant with no extra light bouncing.


I'm on the boat that the Mylar is not going to produce any red light therefore it is simply absorbing the rest of the spectrum. I'm no scientist though
No, I thought the same thing at first though. If you read it they test white/black/red/silver. silver and white = more foliage, red and black = more fruit (flowers). They suggest that different colors might be better for different seasons. It's pretty interesting. It may all come down to soil temps, as it was used as a mulch, who knows. Guess we'll see the results of the grow. ;)
 

NoDrama

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obviously won't intensify as much, but flowering loves red. and it intensifies more than dirt. and the sun does change light output. as I posted above
What you posted above was nothing, no science, no links, all anecdotal at best,pure bullshit is what they call that in the scientific community
 

NoDrama

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The suns 'real' kelvin temperature is somewhere around 5,800 degrees kelvin, but because the sun is not a perfect 'black body' (the standard for calculating kelvin temperatures of light) its adjusted kelvin temperature is somewhere around 6,400 degrees kelvin.

6,400 degrees kelvin is predominantly 'bluish-white' light and this is the best kind of light and kelvin temperature for vegetative growth - primarily because in nature the time of year Cannabis is in vegetative growth is during the long hot days of summer where the suns daylength is the longest and receives the most 6,400k light. The reasons it changes for flowering is again because of the predominance of the kind of light found from the sun when Cannabis enters it's floral stage - usually at the start of Autumn or Fall when the days get shorter and the nights longer thus reducing down the daylength significantly. Sunrise and Sunset account for almost 50% of the suns light during the short days of Autumn/Fall and sunrise and sunset are made up of almost entirely red spectrum light due to the angle of the suns rays hitting the earths surface. Therefore as sunrise and sunset account for almost 50% of the sun total light output at that time of year it necessarily follows that 50% of that light will be entirely in the red end of the visible spectrum - hence the 2,700k colour temperature being favoured for flowering. In reality a mixture of red and blue light is required in flowering due to the other 50% of the spectrum being more blue in colour.





You still can argue, but like I said. it was tested and shown that the 3 plants out of the bunch with red reflectors under it were significantly bigger than the others next to it. I guess that means nothing since the only difference was the red.
and...."IT DOESN"T HURT TO TRY" If it doesn't work like you say oh well, it would be like him not doing it since it will grow the god damn same
Your post is completely contradictory, at first you state "adjusted kelvin temperature is somewhere around 6,400 degrees kelvin" then you state that 'Therefore as sunrise and sunset account for almost 50% of the sun total light output at that time of year it necessarily follows that 50% of that light will be entirely in the red end of the visible spectrum - hence the 2,700k colour temperature being favoured for flowering."

Guess what bub, The sun doesn't change, its still putting out 6400 no matter what time of the day or year it is, it never changes. How you think that because the days are only half as long means it has half the color temp is illogical. Completely dumbfounded here by your statement. Put a link to some kind of evidence that half as long days = half the color temp. Otherwise it BS.
 

karr

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I thought that it was that when outdoor plants flower late summer the tilt of the earth in relation to the sun meant that the rays of light had to travel through more atmosphere( as it is no longer straight through rather across a longer angle) before hitting us and the byproduct of that was decreased intensity, and predominantly red light as it has penetrating power...


Not really sure though.
 

tafbang

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Nodrama will fight his heart out to get this guy to not grow with red light because it's pointless
 

t0rn

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If you look at something and it's the color red, it's because you're seeing all of the spectrum BUT red. That being said, the red mylar should absorb more red spectrum of lighting and that would be counter intuitive to a "flowering" spectrum.

Red mylar isn't going to give the room more red spectrum of lighting, quite the opposite.
 

cowboylogic

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I thought that it was that when outdoor plants flower late summer the tilt of the earth in relation to the sun meant that the rays of light had to travel through more atmosphere( as it is no longer straight through rather across a longer angle) before hitting us


Not really sure though.
You are correct. Morning, noon, evening and season to season..........Decrease in photo period is the flowering trigger for MJ.
 

thatsam

Member
So first off, great idea..secondly, 'nodrama' picked a horrible screen name...but beyond that, is the red mylar semi-transparent or opaque? What if you tried putting the red mylar over the silver stuff? Or if it had a white backing, also are you laying it on the soil as well?
 

tafbang

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if I were to put the red anywhere it would be under the trees and just have the chrome around the walls. he has sufficient lighting to do what he wants with the reflections, so he has room to try out any experiment with color spectrum safely
 

Japanfreak

New Member
You would be reducing the strength of the light. There is nothing that you can filter out of light that would make it stronger.
 

dtp5150

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The lady who witnessed the friend do it didn't know what it was. but the few that had the red reflecting were all bigger than the normally planted ones.
That's just the word on the streets. and don't hate on this guy for trying. you can produce buds without red light. so let him experience instead of calling him a faggot.
I didn't call him a faggot, you useless excuse for a human.

Do you guys even realize that the fact you see red in the mylar means it is filtering the red light out of what is reflected?

I have never seen such idiotic nonsense in my time on rollitup.org

You're quoting results from heresy about an experiment in which there were no controls.....wives tales

Silver Mylar ( or similar ) or white is the only thing anybody should be using. I just left a thread where someone said they thought black reflected 100% light. Go back to physics class, geniuses.

and that whole argument over sun light temperature was filled with so much nonsensical copy and paste "evidence" that I think only one person actually knew what they were talking about.

Sun light temp changes during day, and season, based upon our atmosphere filtering the light. Also there will be virtually unmeasurable changes due to our movement in relation to the sun.
 

tat2ue

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Well here's an update on my flood table that I surounded with the "Red Mylar" as an experiment. Today is day 39 in flower. They went in on Xmas Eve as rooted clones with no veg time. There are 80 plants in a 3 x 8 flood table sitting under 3 x 600w HPS Quantum digitals in cool tubes. The only nutes I used were Botanicare FloraBloom and nothing else other than co2 that was piped in from the exhaust duct that sits on top of my natural gas hot water heater that vents the waste gases (free co2...luv it!!).

I think they look pretty good if I do say so myself. I can imagine what their gonna look like in 3 weeks when it's time to chop.
 

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del66666

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by what i read red mylar should be very close to plant to work like 2 inches and its mainly used to make indoor gardens look pretty....
 

fishwhistle

Active Member
Dude they look nice to me,certainly didnt hurt them.My hats off to you for trying something new,imagine if every one just kept doing the same thing over and over again,life would be boring and we would not learn much.I much prefer it when ''everybody fucks different"!
 

bloomfields

Active Member
RED MYLAR hahahahahahahaahhahaaaa , are we not meant to be reflecting light as to not waste our precious electric ???? there is nothing to work out 1000,000 tests have been done fgs, white , flat white , or mylar , ps is tin foil ok if i spay it yellow ?
 
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