Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

foreverflyhi

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Gave them an aloe foliar last night. I'll be up potting the yunnan in the middle tomorrow.
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Anyone else getting a jump start on the outdoor season?
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Haha a jump in outdoor season in my opinion is at least 6 months!
Yup i have medium size plants that will be this year's outdoor crop, hopefully the next two months they will double in size, quadruple by flower. Weird times we are living in, not sure when flowering time is this year
 

Midwest Weedist

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Haha a jump in outdoor season in my opinion is at least 6 months!
Yup i have medium size plants that will be this year's outdoor crop, hopefully the next two months they will double in size, quadruple by flower. Weird times we are living in, not sure when flowering time is this year
If I had the room to veg full size plants for outdoors I'd have literal trees. I've always wanted to do a full year of veg then let the sun take over for 6 months.
What strains you throwing outdoors?
 

foreverflyhi

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If I had the room to veg full size plants for outdoors I'd have literal trees. I've always wanted to do a full year of veg then let the sun take over for 6 months.
What strains you throwing outdoors?
Ill take pics of outdoor crop later today, for now here they are a couple days before i took them out.
Durango og from la plata
Sour pez
Critical kush
King Louie



Heres a more updated pic of my soon to be monster scrog, critcal kush


Yup thats just one plant



When im readynim going to do a journal here in the organic section.

Led + ROLS all day
 

Midwest Weedist

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Ill take pics of outdoor crop later today, for now here they are a couple days before i took them out.
Durango og from la plata
Sour pez
Critical kush
King Louie



Heres a more updated pic of my soon to be monster scrog, critcal kush


Yup thats just one plant



When im readynim going to do a journal here in the organic section.

Led + ROLS all day
Wow! Those look absolutely amazing
 

radicaldank42

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daumn forever!!! fuckingf amazing!!!! im running royal queens critical rite now lol not the critical kush but just critical. and my own fire ogbx x afghan kush and my romulan x white skunk and northern lights x white skunk. wait till whats nexct. lol I will havbe new "smart" phone soon so I can take photos. I even haver a gurilla glue #4 that I crossed with my whiteskunk'
 

earthling420

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Has anyone else noticed how different the plant is from synthetics vs organic? wow. I'm still in veg and so much is different. the way the plant feels and behaves and it is hairy lol and the stems are green like gel under the hairs. Loving LOS. can't wait for flower and harvest! plant also has great terpenes coming through already! it's only getting better lol
 

Midwest Weedist

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Has anyone else noticed how different the plant is from synthetics vs organic? wow. I'm still in veg and so much is different. the way the plant feels and behaves and it is hairy lol and the stems are green like gel under the hairs. Loving LOS. can't wait for flower and harvest! plant also has great terpenes coming through already! it's only getting better lol
I noticed that when I moved from bagged soil with synthetic nutes to rols and notill that they looked like plants that had grown outdoors. They smell as early as 3 or 4 weeks into veg (this still blows mind). One thing that my girl and I also noticed is that with my organic bud it's hard for us to build up a tolerance to it. After a month of heavy smoking daily of the same strain, we could still smoke a chillum and get very medicated. It also seems to last longer, the high I mean.
 

Pattahabi

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The first thing I noticed was smoking synthetic gave me respiratory problems. I haven't had that issue since switching to organics. The smoke is smooth and doesn't burn my throat. I don't smoke cigarettes, but it always makes me wonder what organic tobacco would be like. Would it cause cancer like cigarettes today?

P-
 

zonderkop

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somehow, it always comes back to organics: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/02/10/radioactive-fertilizer.aspx

It's well-recognized that smoking cigarettes can cause lung cancer. What isn't clear is exactly what it is in the cigarette or its smoke that causes it. It may be polonium-210—a highly radioactive element that releases alpha particles as it decays. It's also chemically toxic.

While naturally present in small amounts in the environment, one of the primary sources of exposure is via calcium phosphate fertilizers, used on tobacco fields and food crops respectively.​

Research suggests that it's the radiation from these fertilizers that appear to cause the most lung damage, and are the primary cause of cancer in smokers. In fact, polonium is the only component of cigarette smoke shown to produce cancer in laboratory animals.
 

zonderkop

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yeah, i typically vape, but did smoke a joint of my stuff out of curiosity. very smooth and very clean effect, without a groggy comedown that i associated with smoking. biggest difference was i stunk up the place.

i've always wondered if joint is a vape too: draw in hot air, which passes through the weed right behind the burning section.
 

Midwest Weedist

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yeah, i typically vape, but did smoke a joint of my stuff out of curiosity. very smooth and very clean effect, without a groggy comedown that i associated with smoking. biggest difference was i stunk up the place.

i've always wondered if joint is a vape too: draw in hot air, which passes through the weed right behind the burning section.
I've been bringing this up with friends for years. I think it would make sense why some people claim they get higher when smoking something that's rolled if that is true.
 

Mad Hamish

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Has anyone else noticed how different the plant is from synthetics vs organic? wow. I'm still in veg and so much is different. the way the plant feels and behaves and it is hairy lol and the stems are green like gel under the hairs. Loving LOS. can't wait for flower and harvest! plant also has great terpenes coming through already! it's only getting better lol
Yup the difference is clear as day to me, no radiance to hydro even if they look healthy they never SHINE.
 

Midwest Weedist

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Anyone have any good information on ideal root zone temperatures and their relationship to air temperatures and/or rh. I was thinking today that even when it's 100° degrees in the middle of summer here, if I dig down a couple of feet, the soil feels cool. I'd guess that below 2 feet if it's not dry that it's probably below 70°. So if the root zone is a bit colder, could the plant compensate with hotter air temps somehow?

Because my last grow I battled temps, even in late flower, above 80° but had no heat stress at all. I attributed it to the power of the rols notill grow style. But thinking back, my floor was also cold, probably 65° or colder.
 

Mohican

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I think sativas like hotter drier soil than do indicas.

68 degrees F is the ground temp once you get down far enough.
 

DonBrennon

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I'm about 100 pages behind reading this thread (along with a whole number of different info sources), so sorry if this has already been covered.

Has anyone tried fermenting sst2, I've seen it suggested on another website and think it could save me a whole lot of hassle if it works.
It's claimed to supercharge your sst so you can keep your fermented tea for long periods and use small diluted amounts.
 

Forte

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Hello guys,

So, I read about CEC, and I don't get how much of the amendments I should put so that it has the ideal ratio. Can anyone help?
This is the recipe that I want to use, but just want to make sure if this has the ideal CEC.
Thanks in advance.

Base Soil

1/3 Sphagnum Peat from Premier Peat or Alaska Peat
1/3 Aeration material (2 parts Perlite, 2 parts chunky coco, 1 part Vermiculite) Granite stonedust
1/3 Humus (1 part EWC, 1 part local / used topsoil, 1 part leaf litter, 1 part compost)

Per Cubic Foot of the Base Soil:

½ Cup DE
½ Cup Espoma Starter Plus
1 cup Charcoal
½ Cup Epsom Salt
4 cups Rock Powders (1X Glacial, 1X Bentonite, 1X Oyster Shell, 1X Basalt)

½ Cup Neem Meal
1 Cup Crab Shell Meal
(1/2 cup)2 Cups Kelp Meal
2 Cups Fish Meal
2 Cups Fish Bone Meal
1 Cup Sul-Po-Mag
½ Cup Alfalfa

1.5 Cups Montmorillonite clay (azomite, bentonite, zeolite)
1.5 Cups Pyrophyllite Clay
1x Azomite (full range of minerals for the most part)
1x Gypsum (Calcium [elemental form Ca++] & Sulfur)
1x Limestone (Calcium Carbonate CaCO3)

Mix equal parts and then use 2 cups of the mix to 1 c.f. of potting soil
 
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