Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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DonBrennon said:
Hahaha, yup, just did a quick search and found this
, SHIT, they're going no where near my worm bin
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hah, how shitty would that be?
happy lil worm paradise and then all of a sudden a predatory monstrous multi-legged creature is introduced and then you just have to hang out under the soil in sheer terror. Popping up only to hear the worm screams of your brethren being eaten?
Yea, I said worm screams...
It'd be like going to prison and having a REALLY bad cell-mate.
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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Midwest Weedist said:
I use the 33% - 33% - 33% rario for my compost/vermicompost - aeration - and coir
My aeration is 40% lava rock, 40% rice hulls, and 20% biochar. Should I add more lava rock or rice hulls to the mix next time I up pot?
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I like volcanic rock over rice hulls for no-tills, they never break down.
Can you get any rotten wood chunks in there? really conditions the soil well, and the plants freakin love it, and you don't need to water as often.
I can go a whole extra 12-24 hrs before watering in the soil I have, for the container I know what is typical watering schedule is for an established flowering plant, so I can tell the difference, the wood acts like mini sponges, without retaining too much water, and then it slowly leaches the water bac into the soil, kinda making the soil more "humid", the difference is visible for the roots. The entire smart pot is a solid rootball and that is a 12 or 15 gallon smartpot, with plants no larger than three feet.
Some serious roots going on there...
Another thing I like, is cutting up small 1-2 inch strips of the coco-wool, like the stuff they line planters with, it holds moisture really well and keeps little pockets of air without getting too dry.
Ok, so maybe I go a lil overboard with my aeration... but damnit, roots are the key behind it all.
The "engine and drivetrain" of the cannabis plant, the flowers are simply the body of the car... what everyone looks at...
 
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Midwest Weedist

Midwest Weedist

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greasemonkeymann said:
I like volcanic rock over rice hulls for no-tills, they never break down.
Can you get any rotten wood chunks in there? really conditions the soil well, and the plants freakin love it, and you don't need to water as often.
I can go a whole extra 12-24 hrs before watering in the soil I have, for the container I know what is typical watering schedule is for an established flowering plant, so I can tell the difference, the wood acts like mini sponges, without retaining too much water, and then it slowly leaches the water bac into the soil, kinda making the soil more "humid", the difference is visible for the roots. The entire smart pot is a solid rootball and that is a 12 or 15 gallon smartpot, with plants no larger than three feet.
Some serious roots going on there...
Another thing I like, is cutting up small 1-2 inch strips of the coco-wool, like the stuff they line planters with, it holds moisture really well and keeplittle poskets of air without getting too dry.
Ok, so maybe I go a lil overboard with my aeration... but damnit, roots are the key behind it all.
The "engine and drivetrain" of the cannabis plant, the flowers are simply the body of the car... what everyone looks at...
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I can, I just have to wait until it warms up and stops raining. It's been sub 45°f and rainy for the last week. I mean I could.. But I'd rather not be a mud monster haha.
I'll dig around my grandparents compost bin though, they may have a couple chunks if I can remember right.
 
Pattahabi

Pattahabi

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Midwest Weedist said:
Sure is! Femmed unfortunately, but judging by how it's grown so far, I'll be ordering a few packs of regs sometime to hunt for a few phenos.
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I have a packs of Ace's Nepal Jam, Congo, and Double Thai sitting in the stash tin! I've eyed the China Yunnan a couple of times now! I can't wait to hear how that one turns out for you!

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Midwest Weedist

Midwest Weedist

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Pattahabi said:
I have a packs of Ace's Nepal Jam, Congo, and Double Thai sitting in the stash tin! I've eyed the China Yunnan a couple of times now! I can't wait to hear how that one turns out for you!

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Ooooooo Thai! I've always wanted to try a pure Thai, but those flowering times...
I'll be sure to keep you updated! I'll be taking a few cuttings for outdoors as well so we'll see how she does! If any of my Afghani beans are male I'll be pollinating a yunnan to see what I can get.
 
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gilbsy123

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st0wandgrow said:
No doubt. I've got a pack of Purple Haze x Thai that has an 18-20 week flowering time. :shock:
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That's almost 5 months. I wonder how that works out in the great outdoors.

What's the other 7 months like in Thailand? Veg time? Do those plants get huge or what?

How well do they yield, for you?
 
Midwest Weedist

Midwest Weedist

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gilbsy123 said:
That's almost 5 months. I wonder how that works out in the great outdoors.

What's the other 7 months like in Thailand? Veg time? Do those plants get huge or what?

How well do they yield, for you?
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If I remember correctly, a lot of those places are equatorial and don't get a "winter" month necessarily. So it's one long grow season, or a long one and a shorter one, etc.
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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Midwest Weedist said:
If I remember correctly, a lot of those places are equatorial and don't get a "winter" month necessarily. So it's one long grow season, or a long one and a shorter one, etc.
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I always was curious about getting a timer that was done only in hrs, just so I could get the best of both worlds, meaning a long ass day for the sativa, but still a 12 hr night to keep the flowers "somewhat" denser/faster.
Like maybe a 15/12 setup?
Just always wondered what that would do? Everything I have ever learned about cannabis being a photoperiod determinate plant, so if the 12 hr darkness was met, I would speculate it would flower..
o you get an extra 3 hrs of light while keeping the night intact.
I wonder if that would either
A. hasten the flowering time, or
B. keep the flowers tighter/shorter Or
C. nothing at all.
Oh and side note, here are some pics of my no-till plants I just harvested.
first is the sugarpunch, second is the mad scientist X jackberry (super great but weird smell)
100_0711.JPG Both form sannies, and both were sadly abused a lil, I had to keep them in my vege room for 8 months longer than normal, so when I transplanted them, the rootball looked like wrapped twine.
They rebounded alright, the plant was a lil beat up at the end, but the flowers look really nice.
I know the pics are crappy, my camera is broke, I can hear the focus constantly refocusing.
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st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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gilbsy123 said:
That's almost 5 months. I wonder how that works out in the great outdoors.

What's the other 7 months like in Thailand? Veg time? Do those plants get huge or what?

How well do they yield, for you?
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I don't know how it's going to yield. I've pulled that pack out of the seed tin a couple times, got cold sweats, then put it right back in the tin. 20 weeks is a long haul!
 
Midwest Weedist

Midwest Weedist

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greasemonkeymann said:
I always was curious about getting a timer that was done only in hrs, just so I could get the best of both worlds, meaning a long ass day for the sativa, but still a 12 hr night to keep the flowers "somewhat" denser/faster.
Like maybe a 15/12 setup?
Just always wondered what that would do? Everything I have ever learned about cannabis being a photoperiod determinate plant, so if the 12 hr darkness was met, I would speculate it would flower..
o you get an extra 3 hrs of light while keeping the night intact.
I wonder if that would either
A. hasten the flowering time, or
B. keep the flowers tighter/shorter Or
C. nothing at all.
Oh and side note, here are some pics of my no-till plants I just harvested.
first is the sugarpunch, second is the mad scientist X jackberry (super great but weird smell)
View attachment 3380309 Both form sannies, and both were sadly abused a lil, I had to keep them in my vege room for 8 months longer than normal, so when I transplanted them, the rootball looked like wrapped twine.
They rebounded alright, the plant was a lil beat up at the end, but the flowers look really nice.
I know the pics are crappy, my camera is broke, I can hear the focus constantly refocusing.
View attachment 3380307
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I've wondered that same thing! I've always wanted to try and figure out a way to do that. Talk about a confusing schedule to keep up with though.
 
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