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drgreenthumb617

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Brad from RAW owns Superior SeedBank and The Elite Clonez.

For years RAW (FishGanjaGuy) has been using dudegrows as a platform to promote himself and other banks. Same with his buddy JR Tokin (Scotty) from cannabuzz.
Going back to 2016, RAW was promoting Attitude Bank and Neptune.. I've never used attitude so I can't say much.
Anyone else see the connection? Congrats to JR for winning a trophy at DGCCup! No idea what it was for, but I'm sure it was legit, so congrats.

DudesGrow community all promote Neptune because they are all buddies, in the same clan and in biz together.. It's a small community. They all know each other. regardless of where they are located: Cali, Oregon, Colorado, Washington. I tune into dudesgrow all the time on youtube. They have put out some great content.

Im sure some will Agree or Disagree. I fully expect someone is going to defend all these banks and call me fool. Maybe someone from these banks will jump on and toss in their two cents. I enjoy the drama. I hate seeing other growmies waiting on deliveries, getting burnt with dud seeds or worse,

Just Blaze Media made most of these websites, including AtomicSeedBank (A.J.). Atomic blocked me before I could inquire about JBM.
There's a lot of cannabis/psychedelic websites made by JBM. If they all have similar inventory, same (FAQ,policies), same mailing address, isn't it safe to say it's suspect and run by same person/crew? I'm pretty sure Neptune is behind everything, including partnering up with superior. Any banks or breeders listed on this site I don't trust https://justblazemedia.com/

Neptune was established in 2015. A majority of these sites that I list were established around 2020-2021.
"Superior, seedgurus, tokers dream, healthy made, united, high class, sapphire, chronic, platinum, heritage"

I'm going to make a separate post about Atomic to see if anyone has any feedback on him. But according to instagram (not atomic) he's buddies with Neptune (ambassador), Superior/Raw, TikiMan (1218 E broadway), ziplock seeds, massmedical. I'm hating on atomic because of the way he responded to me before blocking me like a coward.

Atomic brought up Superior in a conversation and it led me down a rabbit hole and discovered Superior is RAW.
Atomic and RAW are/were both neptune ambassadors @neptuneambassador. Not sure if RAW would openly admit to that.
Neptune closed the program.
reviews.io - "Was an "Ambassador" for Neptune Seed Bank. Sent them around $20,000 worth of sales over the course of 6/7 months. They closed the program without telling me, owing me almost $2000 which they never paid and won't even answer my emails asking what's going on. I for one will no longer ever recommend them."
I recently had a brief convo with superior in an instagram message and he's arrogant.. Brad, a thank you would have been nice?


I don't know who is copying who, but Neptune, Brotanicals (colorado) and most of these sites recycle the same verbiage (FAQ, privacy policies, shipping, etc), and use mailing address 1218 E Broadway #116 Long Beach, CA (RAW has different address) I still think they are all related in some way.
https://neptuneseedbank.com/faqs/
https://brotanicalgardens.com/faq/ https://brotanicalgardens.com/footer-menu/ https://marijuanaseedbreeders.com/disclaimer
https://atomicseedbank.com/faqs/ - Plagiarism is a crime?
Raw Genetics FAQ How can you put trust in these banks if they are all copycat banks?

I called out Atomic for promoting the exotic genetix big sherb box because he wasnt listed as a verified vendor.
He tells me he's not scamming and asked me if the sites listed below were scamming,.. It's ironic that he grouped all these banks together. They are frequently mentioned together on the web as 'not trusted' by many. But I guess that depends on who you ask. Whose scratching whose back? I find it funny how atomic and superior/raw each had 8 boxes when neither were on the verified vendor list for the drop? Superior is listed as a reseller, but he definitely wasn't on the list.

Atomic asked me "what about these banks. Are they scammers? Neptune, superior, seedsgurus, tokers dream, healthy made, united, high class, sapphire, chronic, platinum, heritage" .. why he would mention these sites is beyond me.
SeedGurus made me instantly think of guru from DGC. These banks besides superior have same mailing ad

Besides brotanicals, None of these sites were listed as verified vendors, but yet they all had boxes to sell. Any site made by JBM or associated with JBM had boxes. That's shady..
I haven't been scammed yet, but have negative reviews neptune and the sister sites amusing.
In these videos, Raw mentions ripping off Berner and Seed Junky. Him and JR talk about how to verify legit sites.
Atomic on his instragram talking about fake profiles, scammers, thieves.

Youtube and Other sources:

West coast connoisseurs might be the same crew. Just Blaze media made their website.
Wyeast farms ironically has most of these shady banks as verified vendors.

Last year I did place an order with Neptune and Superior. The packs were delivered. However I never got around to running them.
I Placed an order with brotanicals recently, it took them 1 week to ship. I still can't figure out how to use their bro points. Who else knows how to use them? I laugh at how they ask for a tip when checking out. thanks for the quick shipment! No tip for you, lol
Tune into my Atomic post to find out what he says about brotanicals.

My intent of this post is to spark a conversation with fellow growmies. Bring some awareness to some incase they didn't realize the connection between all these banks. There are striking similarities amongst all these banks/breeders. I say it's time to boycott them all. lol

I can't say with 100% certainty they are working in cahoots, but it sure seems that way. I listened/watched the podcasts with Superior,Cannabuzz, FCP, BloomBoosters. HomeGrowTV in Columbia got an award for growing burnt toast. The hype strain Raw mentions on the podcasts. Anyone grow out burnt toast? I have one pack of raw, stuffed french toast. Anyone grow that? Worth growing out?
Dudegrowshow they are all about neptune and raw. I don't understand the hype with raw.. But either way, I wish Brad the best with success.

If all these breeders and banks are legit, cool, I apologize if I'm causing problems.. It's just an observation made about how they might be all close buddies and I felt like sharing my opinion. I have chatted with other who mentioned they dont trust these bank and they all the same.
A google search will result in mixed reviews for these banks.. Either they are loved or hated on. Some banks such as atomic have no feedback. smh.
I'll post the verified vendors for the EG big sherb drop. I was just going off what the breeder told us in discord. I told Atomic sorry if I'm in the wrong, maybe he was accidentally left off as a verified vendor. EG did name a vendor three times.. But honestly I have more faith in him than anyone that I listed in this post.

Honestly I don't care that much about who was or who wasn't verified vendors for a drop. I wanted to raise the question as to whether or not they are all one big happy family? I see a lot of people calling out neptune lately. smh
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howchill

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Brad from RAW owns Superior SeedBank and The Elite Clonez.

For years RAW (FishGanjaGuy) has been using dudegrows as a platform to promote himself and other banks. Same with his buddy JR Tokin (Scotty) from cannabuzz.
Going back to 2016, RAW was promoting Attitude Bank and Neptune.. I've never used attitude so I can't say much.
Anyone else see the connection? Congrats to JR for winning a trophy at DGCCup! No idea what it was for, but I'm sure it was legit, so congrats.

DudesGrow community all promote Neptune because they are all buddies, in the same clan and in biz together.. It's a small community. They all know each other. regardless of where they are located: Cali, Oregon, Colorado, Washington. I tune into dudesgrow all the time on youtube. They have put out some great content.

Im sure some will Agree or Disagree. I fully expect someone is going to defend all these banks and call me fool. Maybe someone from these banks will jump on and toss in their two cents. I enjoy the drama. I hate seeing other growmies waiting on deliveries, getting burnt with dud seeds or worse,

Just Blaze Media made most of these websites, including AtomicSeedBank (A.J.). Atomic blocked me before I could inquire about JBM.
There's a lot of cannabis/psychedelic websites made by JBM. If they all have similar inventory, same (FAQ,policies), same mailing address, isn't it safe to say it's suspect and run by same person/crew? I'm pretty sure Neptune is behind everything, including partnering up with superior. Any banks or breeders listed on this site I don't trust https://justblazemedia.com/

Neptune was established in 2015. A majority of these sites that I list were established around 2020-2021.
"Superior, seedgurus, tokers dream, healthy made, united, high class, sapphire, chronic, platinum, heritage"

I'm going to make a separate post about Atomic to see if anyone has any feedback on him. But according to instagram (not atomic) he's buddies with Neptune (ambassador), Superior/Raw, TikiMan (1218 E broadway), ziplock seeds, massmedical. I'm hating on atomic because of the way he responded to me before blocking me like a coward.

Atomic brought up Superior in a conversation and it led me down a rabbit hole and discovered Superior is RAW.
Atomic and RAW are/were both neptune ambassadors @neptuneambassador. Not sure if RAW would openly admit to that.
Neptune closed the program.
reviews.io - "Was an "Ambassador" for Neptune Seed Bank. Sent them around $20,000 worth of sales over the course of 6/7 months. They closed the program without telling me, owing me almost $2000 which they never paid and won't even answer my emails asking what's going on. I for one will no longer ever recommend them."
I recently had a brief convo with superior in an instagram message and he's arrogant.. Brad, a thank you would have been nice?


I don't know who is copying who, but Neptune, Brotanicals (colorado) and most of these sites recycle the same verbiage (FAQ, privacy policies, shipping, etc), and use mailing address 1218 E Broadway #116 Long Beach, CA (RAW has different address) I still think they are all related in some way.
https://neptuneseedbank.com/faqs/
https://brotanicalgardens.com/faq/ https://brotanicalgardens.com/footer-menu/ https://marijuanaseedbreeders.com/disclaimer
https://atomicseedbank.com/faqs/ - Plagiarism is a crime?
Raw Genetics FAQ How can you put trust in these banks if they are all copycat banks?

I called out Atomic for promoting the exotic genetix big sherb box because he wasnt listed as a verified vendor.
He tells me he's not scamming and asked me if the sites listed below were scamming,.. It's ironic that he grouped all these banks together. They are frequently mentioned together on the web as 'not trusted' by many. But I guess that depends on who you ask. Whose scratching whose back? I find it funny how atomic and superior/raw each had 8 boxes when neither were on the verified vendor list for the drop? Superior is listed as a reseller, but he definitely wasn't on the list.

Atomic asked me "what about these banks. Are they scammers? Neptune, superior, seedsgurus, tokers dream, healthy made, united, high class, sapphire, chronic, platinum, heritage" .. why he would mention these sites is beyond me.
SeedGurus made me instantly think of guru from DGC. These banks besides superior have same mailing ad

Besides brotanicals, None of these sites were listed as verified vendors, but yet they all had boxes to sell. Any site made by JBM or associated with JBM had boxes. That's shady..
I haven't been scammed yet, but have negative reviews neptune and the sister sites amusing.
In these videos, Raw mentions ripping off Berner and Seed Junky. Him and JR talk about how to verify legit sites.
Atomic on his instragram talking about fake profiles, scammers, thieves.

Youtube and Other sources:

West coast connoisseurs might be the same crew. Just Blaze media made their website.
Wyeast farms ironically has most of these shady banks as verified vendors.

Last year I did place an order with Neptune and Superior. The packs were delivered. However I never got around to running them.
I Placed an order with brotanicals recently, it took them 1 week to ship. I still can't figure out how to use their bro points. Who else knows how to use them? I laugh at how they ask for a tip when checking out. thanks for the quick shipment! No tip for you, lol
Tune into my Atomic post to find out what he says about brotanicals.

My intent of this post is to spark a conversation with fellow growmies. Bring some awareness to some incase they didn't realize the connection between all these banks. There are striking similarities amongst all these banks/breeders. I say it's time to boycott them all. lol

I can't say with 100% certainty they are working in cahoots, but it sure seems that way. I listened/watched the podcasts with Superior,Cannabuzz, FCP, BloomBoosters. HomeGrowTV in Columbia got an award for growing burnt toast. The hype strain Raw mentions on the podcasts. Anyone grow out burnt toast? I have one pack of raw, stuffed french toast. Anyone grow that? Worth growing out?
Dudegrowshow they are all about neptune and raw. I don't understand the hype with raw.. But either way, I wish Brad the best with success.

If all these breeders and banks are legit, cool, I apologize if I'm causing problems.. It's just an observation made about how they might be all close buddies and I felt like sharing my opinion. I have chatted with other who mentioned they dont trust these bank and they all the same.
A google search will result in mixed reviews for these banks.. Either they are loved or hated on. Some banks such as atomic have no feedback. smh.
I'll post the verified vendors for the EG big sherb drop. I was just going off what the breeder told us in discord. I told Atomic sorry if I'm in the wrong, maybe he was accidentally left off as a verified vendor. EG did name a vendor three times.. But honestly I have more faith in him than anyone that I listed in this post.

Honestly I don't care that much about who was or who wasn't verified vendors for a drop. I wanted to raise the question as to whether or not they are all one big happy family? I see a lot of people calling out neptune lately. smh
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I love this

I’d love to have a full length conversation
I remember last year when people were getting scammed by fake in house packs and that led me down a rabbit hole of not trusting seed banks… Neptune in particular(I made a post a few days ago showing how my tiki testers looked like they were opened and heat sealed again)

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Dividedsky

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I love this

I’d love to have a full length conversation
I remember last year when people were getting scammed by fake in house packs and that led me down a rabbit hole of not trusting seed banks… Neptune in particular(I made a post a few days ago showing how my tiki testers looked like they were opened and heat sealed again)

love all this information
Wait what the fuck...I mentioned this in the discord but my cherry paloma pack from raw(which sold out very quick) I noticed on the back of the square cherry paloma sticker had a 2nd sticker that was under the facing sticker...so I peeled off the square cherry paloma back sticker that had and though it was a bit ripped could I make out the first sticker that was originally on the sealed seed pack under the cherry paloma and it said candy bars...biscotti x georgia pie, which that cross isn't even called that anymore- that one is biscotti pie. Raw said it was all good they just ran out of mylar bags and they used old ones but hearing make me think because I did get this pack from neptune. The 3rd pic is the sticker that was under the cherry paloma sticker on back of the pack
 

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drgreenthumb617

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i haven't fully figured out if Brad from Raw/superior/fishganjaguy is helping these clowns out. according to one of the 8 podcasts he's recently been on to hype himself up, he said he's focused on trying to build up his brand.
If I discover any more info I'll tell you.

I'm focused on the dude who disrespected me. Andrew Johnson, the kid that gives his own seedbank star review on Google is a punk. when I called him out about his shady site that looks like was built by Neptune, his response was he helps out veterans all the time and hands out a bunch of free $500 breeder clones. he blocked me all platforms cuz he knows I'm leaking out info .

no way this dude hands out free clones especially with his clone company.. He's partnerered up with tiki and mass medical now
I wouldn't be surprised is his buddy ziplock seeds jumps in on the clone game. smh

tiki, and atomic websites are both built by justblazemedia. their FAQ, privacy policy, terms& conditions are pretty much the same . it's all the same across all the Neptune sites , including brad's superior site. mailing address for tiki and atomic=1218 E Broadway #116 long beach CA.

@southshoreseedcollective @southshoreseedcollective1 @southshorecollective2
@bostonclones @boston_clones2 @atomic_seed_bank @atomicseedbank2 https://www.strainly.io/en/andrewj0803
http://facebook.com/bostoncloneco

Anyone personally know A.J.? Is he be truthful? bullshitting/slander?
Any truth behind FatCab Labs robbing HorrorSeeds?
treestarsseedbank = starfiregenetix .. imagine that
 

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drgreenthumb617

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Wait what the fuck...I mentioned this in the discord but my cherry paloma pack from raw(which sold out very quick) I noticed on the back of the square cherry paloma sticker had a 2nd sticker that was under the facing sticker...so I peeled off the square cherry paloma back sticker that had and though it was a bit ripped could I make out the first sticker that was originally on the sealed seed pack under the cherry paloma and it said candy bars...biscotti x georgia pie, which that cross isn't even called that anymore- that one is biscotti pie. Raw said it was all good they just ran out of mylar bags and they used old ones but hearing make me think because I did get this pack from neptune. The 3rd pic is the sticker that was under the cherry paloma sticker on back of the pack
I'm soooo sorry to hear about the screw up with that pack. honestly after listening to Brad on all his podcasts, he's does a lot of talking about ripping people off. he and Jr talk about fake sites and verifying real sites.. when the breeders and seedbanks start talking like this, I personally don't trust them.
Reverse psychology is the way that I see it.
RAW, JR Tokin(Scotty) and their circle of friends have been tricking us all for years,
playing us all up until they have all gotten where they wanted to be cannabuzz, raw, seedbanks..

I can't completely talk trash but it's just my 2 cents.. all i know is Mike from exotic genetix is the man. all his new packs going forward are $100, he set up shop on his own site. he has award winning strains. Raw will claim he has award winning strain. home grown TV won a cup with it in Columbia. Copycatgenetix stealing exotic genetix strains, I don't see anyone using raws strains...

Mike now has the whole cycle under one roof. breeding->sales. he slowly cuting out a lot of other banks. exotic genetix night and day superior lol
There Superior No chance in hell did superior have 8 boxes of the power sherb. he wasn't on the verified vendor list.. smh.. he's suspect

I wouldn't comepletely give up hope on those seeds I guess maybe u can rock the faith and find a way to believe Brad and grow them out?? he's just breaking into the scene and the dude is already getting a bad rep lol.. "spiderman"/ "fishganjaguy" smh
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drgreenthumb617

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I love this

I’d love to have a full length conversation
I remember last year when people were getting scammed by fake in house packs and that led me down a rabbit hole of not trusting seed banks… Neptune in particular(I made a post a few days ago showing how my tiki testers looked like they were opened and heat sealed again)

love all this information
I don't trust any banks at this point except for Exotic Genetix... almost all the banks are related or in with a breeder ... brotanicals (ethos) just took 1+week to ship.i heard they are sending out bunk seeds.
terpy just tried screwing me. he made a label and 2+weeks later still not picked up .. I had to call him out on all social media profiles until he sent .
I haven't picked up from post office, but I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't send all packs, swapped them out, cut the package before sending and act like post office snagged the packs... smh... there's a lot of people recently saying they don't trust Neptune, me2, i don't trust Neptune, united, tiki, raw,.. I could go on forever. I'm just glad I'm stocked up on beans
 

rmzrmz

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It is good to know the information as consumers, without defending the banks I think it is easier to make and sell seeds than to screw people with fakes,(I mean the official distributors).
Knowing how fast information moves on the networks, they would lose a lot if the fake pack is proven,
the sealing of packs many times looks bad at the 1st and is done for the 2nd time,

Grapefruit Zlushiez,
the leaf smell like Grapefruit early
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howchill

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Wait what the fuck...I mentioned this in the discord but my cherry paloma pack from raw(which sold out very quick) I noticed on the back of the square cherry paloma sticker had a 2nd sticker that was under the facing sticker...so I peeled off the square cherry paloma back sticker that had and though it was a bit ripped could I make out the first sticker that was originally on the sealed seed pack under the cherry paloma and it said candy bars...biscotti x georgia pie, which that cross isn't even called that anymore- that one is biscotti pie. Raw said it was all good they just ran out of mylar bags and they used old ones but hearing make me think because I did get this pack from neptune. The 3rd pic is the sticker that was under the cherry paloma sticker on back of the pack
BRO I’ve had that happen to me !!!
On raw packs and tiki … before I knew they were buds and ect check this out

I got my tiki testers in and everyone else’s has a cannaverify and doesn’t look resealed my does …

Still unopened
 

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howchill

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It is good to know the information as consumers, without defending the banks I think it is easier to make and sell seeds than to screw people with fakes,(I mean the official distributors).
Knowing how fast information moves on the networks, they would lose a lot if the fake pack is proven,
the sealing of packs many times looks bad at the 1st and is done for the 2nd time,

Grapefruit Zlushiez,
the leaf smell like Grapefruit early
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Please check the photos I just posted
 
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