Quiet. The Neighbors Can Hear You (Sound Control Thread)

[Rrog]

Great write up Zippo! Props!

Side note: The Green Glue is effective if placed between two rigid panels like plywood or drywall. Not going to do anything between carpet and ply, for example, because the carpet is floppy.

 

[Uniqueturk90]

sleeping bag and bungee cords insulate the fu*k out your ventilation.

 

[Javadog]

I just got a Whisperline 6" fan and can report that it is more
than quiet enough for my needs. I added a new length of ducting
to for my tent, where carbon filtration happens, to take as input
air from my mothers area.

The mothers area started to stink without flowering (deadhead,
Blueberry BX, Qrazy Train, Chem 40G, and Blue Cheese) and so
I needed to start filtering that air.

This is working, but it is making a negative pressure in the tent.
So, I am adding a fan to push air into the duct from the mothers area.

Take care,

JD

 

[sephiclo]

Why do that...negative pressure is a good thing.

 

[Javadog]

I agree completely. I just want it to be less, as it is really sucking
the sides of the tent it. ...or was, I should write, as I realized that
all I need to do is use the Whisperline inside the tent and the switchable
fan that I have in the tent in the mothers area.

The reasoning here is driven by the fact that the Whisperline only
runs at one speed, but it is very quiet. The fan currently inside the
tent has three speeds, and only the lowest is nearly as quiet as the
WL.

I am pretty sure that the WL is more than powerful enough to avoid
a positive pressure in the tent if the other fan is on low, in the mothers area.

...but you are spot on. I came to realize this quickly. :0) Thanks for the time!

JD

 

[Sativied]

I didnt go through all pages, so may have been mentioned already, but the box on the first pages to mute the ventilator we in the Netherlands refer to as a softbox. Every grow store sells them, nearly as common as a lamp (small houses packed together, need odor and sound control). In addition to foam on the inside the ventilator hangs on rubbers, and the box itself too, and the commonly attached carbon filter too.

Search for 'softbox wiet' in Google Images for tons of DIY examples. Mine actually consist of just the foam (with the pyramids) as I'm growing in a wooden/gypsum closet already. I use the foam on top of my closet too though, just in case (got neighbors above me).

The metal versions have become popular over the past years. More expensive but effective.

I also use Sonodeck vent hosing, makes a major difference by itself.

I'm planning to get an aquarium and make sure the neighbors know of it. If then they hear something buzzing they'll suspect the aquarium is standing against the wall (somewhat of a cliche).

 

[BeastGrow]

Aeroponics is very loud it shakes the whole house.. hanging on rubber loops on rubber hooks reduces the vibration of air pumps a little... the air in the buckets creates a little vibration too so having a rubber mat for aeroponic buckets would be a good idea.

If you can work in the basement then aeroponics might not make much noise.

 

[bass1014]

thanks to this thread i have built a box for my turbo fan and i also built a box around my carbon filter so when the air comes out of the filter in the box i have a 6'' inline fan pulling the air from the carbon filter/box i now send it outside with no smell and the sound is a lot more covered up then just a box around the fan.. i also used an old pillow and took the insides out and put it in the box around the fan..

 

[bass1014]

thanks to this thread i have built a box for my turbo fan and i also built a box around my carbon filter so when the air comes out of the filter in the box i have a 6'' inline fan pulling the air from the carbon filter/box i now send it outside with no smell and the sound is a lot more covered up then just a box around the fan.. i also used an old pillow and took the insides out and put it in the box around the fan.. View attachment 2590546View attachment 2590547View attachment 2590548 the other end of the box has a 6'' inline fan to draw the used air out to an outside vent.. instead of having the carbon air blown into the same space your trying to clear..

 

[bass1014]

sorry for the double post.. that's why they call it dope..

 

[diggabyte]

I didnt go through all pages, so may have been mentioned already, but the box on the first pages to mute the ventilator we in the Netherlands refer to as a softbox. Every grow store sells them, nearly as common as a lamp (small houses packed together, need odor and sound control). In addition to foam on the inside the ventilator hangs on rubbers, and the box itself too, and the commonly attached carbon filter too.

Search for 'softbox wiet' in Google Images for tons of DIY examples. Mine actually consist of just the foam (with the pyramids) as I'm growing in a wooden/gypsum closet already. I use the foam on top of my closet too though, just in case (got neighbors above me).

The metal versions have become popular over the past years. More expensive but effective.

I also use Sonodeck vent hosing, makes a major difference by itself.

I'm planning to get an aquarium and make sure the neighbors know of it. If then they hear something buzzing they'll suspect the aquarium is standing against the wall (somewhat of a cliche).

Good tip on the 'softbox wiet'. I have not been able to find them commercially available outside of Europe. They can obviously be built, but seems like there would be a big market for small growers here in the US. I've tried searching for many combinations of terms extractor/fan/enclosure/box/softbox/silent/acoustic and am having trouble. What would these things be called in the US? Any ideas?

 

[diggabyte]

Some images for inspiration... these boxes are apparently quite common in the Netherlands.

 

[Sativied]

Some images for inspiration... these boxes are apparently quite common in the Netherlands.

Yup, pretty much standard growing gear. Actually the carbon filter and the "offsucker" lol: verbatim translation usually no good - the ventilator that sucks off the air through the carbon filter, pulling fresh air inside) are standard because of snitching neighbors that might smell something. And since those make noise AND vibrate, they are put in a softbox.

Ruck is a popular (german engineering...) brand for tube ventilators, but the soft boxes work better with snail ventilators.

As for the US term, we have this weird habbit in dutch to combine words, so I'd just add a space and call it a soft box, but Google tells me that's used in photography already.

It's a ventilation silencer?

I see my previous reply above, didn't stress the sonodeck hose enough. So let me put it this way, I consider it (or similar insulated hosing) an essential part of the softbox (without it it will blow out the noise ).

I'll paste in a photo of my setup from my pc in a few min.

EDIT: last pic is outside the grow closet. As I mentioned previously I don't actually have a softbox myself. Most because I just had to invest in other stuff first, so I went with just the padding. All on ropes, but the ones with weight on it have rubber bands at the top.


Would have been optimal if there was a small piece of that hosing between the carbon filter and the ventilator (which is an awesome thing by itself, thermostat, only goes as hard and as noisy as it needs to).

People who grow in tents here, or small closets, often place the softbox outside the tent/closet (which especially in DIY cases gives a lot of options).

 

[Javadog]

I have to spread reputation around? I already got you I guess. Great post! LOL

 

[hutchy69]

hey guys .

i was just reading some posts. i have a same sort of problem but the noise is not coming from the my carbon fillter. sound like a sucking noise.
i do have two silencers on eather side of the fan. im using a can fan and same silences. i was just wondering if anyone had made a box for there carbon filter?
any tips to help me make it more quiet then what it is now. thanks

 

[Sativied]

i was just reading some posts.

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i was just wondering if anyone had made a box for there carbon filter?
any tips to help me make it more quiet then what it is now.

I guess those posts you read where in a different thread/forum? Your questions are answered in the previous posts, scroll up for pics

sound like a sucking noise.

Sounds like you are not using the insulated ducting.

 

[Storm]

Honestly, if your ballast makes noise, ditch it. We have electronic ballasts... lets not be ghetto Secondly, pumps do not make noise. Lastly, your neighbors have no proof your fans are not an indoor AC exhausting. If they have an issue, it is not hard to play off your neighbors. If you are growing in a state that does not have a medical program, you should stop, it could ruin your life.

 

[Nursemajor]

I'm going to be living alone in my next rental. I was thinking of getting an extremely noisy fan and leaving it on 24/7, in case the landlord shows up. Besides, my grow room will be my storage/workout room.

 

[MARLEYBLUNTS®]

I will definitely copy this Idea u answered my question thanks!! Great thread.

 

[dictate]

Hi guys, just a quick question on the duct mufflers, DIY or Phresh... I'm going with a DIY.

My question is, do I have to attach it directly to the intake/exhaust part of the fan? I was thinking my setup would be like this:

[CF]==insulated ducting==[Exhaust Fan]==Insulated Ducting==[exit tent]===[Silencer]

Will it matter if I have ducting between the fan and the silencer? I don't have enough room to line them up, as my fan is 20 inches long and my DIY muffler is 24 inches. I have a 3x3 tent.