Man I've done the handwarmer method many times, a couple years ago I put 2 warmers on either side of the bottle, checked the temp with a thermometer before I went in and it was fucking over 105...2 handwarmers are overkill. I cooled it down via cold defrost in my car and passed but I was using real, clean urine. Had a nurse friend tell me he used quick fix 6.1 and passed just recently.
its a great idea if we can get clean piss,, and freeze it in the small plastic bottles,, when needed, thaw and strain thru a coffee filter,, keeps in the freezer for about 1 year,,
Last year I went the 5 weeks no smokey route but this year I think I'm going back to the bottle...Its 4 days now in Quitsville and wont test for another month I reckon but fuck this shit it sucks.
i am with you, if you can get clean real pee,, then just smoke as normal,, and do practice runs leading up, when your straight of course,, hahaha,, get it so you have it down pat, i bought a HUGE pack of hand warmers from ebay,, like 50 of them for 10 bucks ,, been a long time,, so practice runs were pretty easy
i bought some actual test cups from ebay,, that have the thermometer on them,, and what i do is strap the carry bottle to my leg with the 6.1 leg strap i bought, and slap a hand warmer,, then wear it around for like a half hour ,, simulating my drive to the test facility,, then i go to the restroom, empy my pockets,, go in, and make the pants sounds, flip the toliet lid,, grab the carry bottle pour it into my real test bottle, then pee in the toliet,, good and long so they can hear it,,, then check the temp on the test bottle,, so far so good,, i did buy some baby bottle temp strips that work on the carry bottle,