Quick Drying - The Other Side Of The Coin

aeroponicsROOKIE said:

i grew some weed out side then clipped and put in jar it ended up all moldi

If you were to seal damp buds in a glass jar, you'd be much more likely to wind up with fuzzy mould all over the buds in a few days- presumably to keep your aerobic bacteria company!

Don't ever put damp buds in a sealed container!

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OK Rookie, this tread is 2 1/2 years old, and NOWHERE did ANYONE suggest you should put WET, UNDRIED nugs in a jar!
JEEEEZZZZZ..... READ!!!! Yes, BUD right off the the freshly harvested plant WOULD turn to SHIT real fast if sealed up without a little air drying time. Look Sport, if all this is TOO complicated, try growing tomatoes, you can consume those right off the plant. I normally say"Good luck & good grow" at the end of my post's, but I fear it would be a waste of text here.......BB

OK Rookie, this tread is 2 1/2 years old, and NOWHERE did ANYONE suggest you should put WET, UNDRIED nugs in a jar!
JEEEEZZZZZ..... READ!!!! Yes, BUD right off the the freshly harvested plant WOULD turn to SHIT real fast if sealed up without a little air drying time. Look Sport, if all this is TOO complicated, try growing tomatoes, you can consume those right off the plant. I normally say"Good luck & good grow" at the end of my post's, but I fear it would be a waste of text here.......BB

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jesus BB,... have some compassion... LOL.. i know you have plenty of scissor hash going right now...

Burger Boss said:

OK Rookie, this tread is 2 1/2 years old, and NOWHERE did ANYONE suggest you should put WET, UNDRIED nugs in a jar!
JEEEEZZZZZ..... READ!!!! Yes, BUD right off the the freshly harvested plant WOULD turn to SHIT real fast if sealed up without a little air drying time. Look Sport, if all this is TOO complicated, try growing tomatoes, you can consume those right off the plant. I normally say"Good luck & good grow" at the end of my post's, but I fear it would be a waste of text here.......BB

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LOL damn you dont have to crush his insignificant life LOL its ok

Alls he said is his turned up moldy or moldi as he put it lmao chill

da07flopro said:

LOL damn you dont have to crush his insignificant life LOL its ok

Alls he said is his turned up moldy or moldi as he put it lmao chill

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this thread was very informative, thanks

This thread is epic for it's irony.

Al B Fuct wrecked FDD with logic. FDd reverts to childish pendantic rants. Morons hop on a bandwagon. Morons argue about shit that cannot ever be proven.

Moral? Stop bickering you dolts.

Mold , acrobatic bacterias, wasted weed, no smell, no taste, only high....

Sounds like a recipe for an addict if I have ever heard one. Go by a beer and chill the fuck out while your herbs dry.

my420meds said:

Mold , acrobatic bacterias, wasted weed, no smell, no taste, only high....

Sounds like a recipe for an addict if I have ever heard one. Go by a beer and chill the fuck out while your herbs dry.

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can you buy me some beer?

fdd2blk said:

i can't believe he clowned ed and mel. not experts? how about THE experts.

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Agreed... o.o

Shit.

Rh for optimal cigar Storage is 70%RH 70degreesF For every point the temp rises the RH should fall and vice versa. ONLY within 5Points each way. anything above 75Degrees or below 65Degrees(bad) and anything above 75% RH or below 65 % RH is considered to be non-ideal (too much mold) (too little too dry- harsh) . As for how tobacco for fine cigars is cured Quite simply It starts with fermentingt he leaves in GIANT bails. the temps inside the bails top 150degree's F and are needed to be turned periodically as to not burn it. or cause mold.
After the Tobacco is fermented It is sorted into "like" piles based on appearance and size and strength. These piles are then piled in stacks for A.(storage/aging) B.(use) Depending on the cigar tobaccos are typically aged for at least 3-6 months . Yet some of the finest cigars contain tobacco that is 10's of Years old. I have personally smoked a cigar (and have several in my humidor) that's tobacco is over 20 Years old. If Kept in Optimal RH and TEMP the cigar( much like wine) can be stored for countless Years. Cigars that are some 60 years old are the smoke's of the cigar aficionado and are severly pricey and often illegal due to their cuban origins ( some and most That are older than 50 years may and most likely were produced pre-castro or during castro's reign in CUBA)
I have smoked a 32 year old Cuban cigar and in aging the cigar's flavor's "marry" and become delicate and silky smooth in texture and taste some become more pronounced some soften and some ge bolder depending On the type of leaf used in the cigar's construction. If a Ligero or Oscuro Leaf is used in the cigar's production it will almost surely age better than a cigar wrappen inside of a Conneticut shade wrapper . Based simply on the amount of oils that the different leafs carry .

So .
The way a cigar is aged(stored) is in 70% humidity 70 degree temps (with no attention payed to light) The way the tobacco is fermented is through heat fermentation. and then air curing or drying. ( i believe and correct me please if wrong but Marijuana Curing and Drying as we know it today has owes alot to the curing methods of tobbacco.) In some places ( mexico ) They even use similar methods of fermentation bY tieng the cola's together and rotating them every so often to give the bud the golden color or yellow appearance that some of the famous mexican strains are known for( acapoulco gold , michiwuacan ) All this stuff about cigar's I know cuz I was a cigar Consultant for 4 years. I know a shit on about cigar's. And I have read about the related cannabis info in some of Robert Connel Clarke's Botany of cannabis work. There are sections on growing regions and the like that explain some ancient curing methods and such PLUR . :]

fdd2blk said:

no thank you 20 years of tried and true methods are enough for me.

i'm in no hurry. do they quick dry fine cigars.

i wonder how many people are cooking their hard work right now. hope they get it right the first time.

the bud takes on a whole new appearance. it is totally different. ask my a method i haven't tried.


i will be more than happy to complete any and ALL quotes above. i'll take then one at a time. give me a few minutes. thanks.

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I agree with you 100% fdd. I guess only the true experienced growers know that its a fact.. that "quick drying" your harvests.. or even a test bud.. quick drying does nothing for you.. except maybe give you a ballpark idea.. of what your final product may be like.

Nothing beats a good old air dry.. and then a nice 2 week, to a 6 month cure.

People just don't get it. Quick drying methods.. ALL OF THEM.. cannot and will not get rid of the chlorophyll, which is what is responsible for giving the bud that harsh taste in the back of your throat.. and it is also responsible for giving the bud that "hay" smell.

If people would just be patient.. and cure their buds correctly.. and let the "aerobic bacteria" do its job (its job is to basically get rid of the chlorophyll.. or "eat" the chlorophyll so to say). Some people just have no patients.. either that.. or their very uneducated when it comes to growing cannabis. Or, maybe they're both uneducated and inpatient.

RanTyr said:

This thread is epic for it's irony.

Al B Fuct wrecked FDD with logic. FDd reverts to childish pendantic rants. Morons hop on a bandwagon. Morons argue about shit that cannot ever be proven.

Moral? Stop bickering you dolts.

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Maybe you should take your own advice my friend.. your bickering by simply posting that.

Secondly.. fdd knows his shit. I will cite with fdd any day..

done.

peace.

anyone using a dehumidifier in their dry room?


I am thinking it is a bad idea...

ya good post actually...
and great for newbies...
wish if rollitup warned as a fdd2blk alerts... great!!!

Hello There, You seem like a sensible one!

Maybe you can help me?

I have just finished my first grow.
18 himalaya gold seedlings in soil, under 2 600w hps.
Did everything by the book.
They turned out like beasts, have a look for yourself.
However when i started to dry them, hanging upside down in a cool, dark, dry tent. I noticed that the buds were drying too quickly, leaving the stalks nice and wet.
The first batch even had a hint of mould in the aroma. The smell of the bud almost was non existant. I then trimmed the buds off the stalks and put them into brown paper bags and once were dry and smelt slightly better they went in for curing.
The taste of the bud wasn't very good and was quite harsh on the throat. But still got me very high.
Through some further reading, i was determined to not let this happen to the second batch.
i hung it for two days in slightly smaller branches, then they went into brown cardboard boxes suspended on a grill for 2 days, and now they have gone into paper bags!
I really need some good tasting bud after all this hard work!
Can someone please help me!?

Any comments are welcome, but please constructive criticism only.
Thanks

HOH, did you flush? If not, educate yourself on the subject of cannabis flushing. Good luck & good grow.......BB

ok so when you are slow drying what do you keep your temps at? and how much air circulation? i just dried some fat diesel nuggets by hanging them in 75 degrees with air blowing on them and they lost all their "plump" i don't know if it was the way i dried them or what...

The temp sounds OK, I prefer a little cooler, like around 70. But, no fast air movement. I just put a little desk fan in the corner of the room and set at low toward the wall. Just enough circulation to prevent molding.
Good luck & good grow.......BB

constant gardener, maybe i should join you and throw some buds in the back windows of my 76 pacer with some soggy red rope. an put it in a mildly sunny area..

Has anyone proven or disproven that light degrades thc? It's a pain in the ass to have a separate dry room where I can keep the lights off 24/7 .. Has any one tried drying with lights on? Did u notice any difference in the quality of the finished product? I think the drying with lights off is a myth? I mean shit they grow under light ? Why would the light b bad for em?

weedsLV said:

Has anyone proven or disproven that light degrades thc? It's a pain in the ass to have a separate dry room where I can keep the lights off 24/7 .. Has any one tried drying with lights on? Did u notice any difference in the quality of the finished product? I think the drying with lights off is a myth? I mean shit they grow under light ? Why would the light b bad for em?

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Bright, direct SUNLIGHT, will degrade THC. Low ambient indoor lighting would have little or no effect on the quality of your smoke. Good luck & good grow.......BB