Questions about perpetual sea of green setup
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Something like that is what I'm trying to achieve
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Let me know what you think I posted a website and a pic I'm wanting to do something like that but 4 2x4 trays!Yes you can definitely do it that way too, that's called deep water culture(DWC). But in my opinion the ebb and flow system will deliver more oxygen to the roots than a deep water culture system would, And hence more desirable. Not to mention that you need to closely watch the reservoir temperature in a deep water culture system.
The only reason I suggests the aeroponic approach is that you can literally use only 3 gallons of water, pretty much the amount of water that is needed to get your pump to pump it. And also it is hands down the most effective way to grow plants . Of course there is alot of controversy on this but it has been proven that you get larger and faster growth in aeroponics than any other growth medium. We're not speaking of flavor and taste just something to keep in mind. It's all about oxygen delivery to the roots. And that's what aeroponics does. And Ebb n flow also does a good job on oxygen delivery to the roots that's why It fills and drains, to allow oxygen to get to the roots.
Do you have any photos of your current system? I took the liberty of creating a 3d model of what I'm seeing that you're talking about that you're currently running.
Wow didn't even noticed that the video kind of transitioned from one view to the next quite quickly, Ops
Is this the kind of system you have now, or planning to do?
Sorry if it seems like I'm going overboard but I love designing systems Creating models, visualizing things and solving problems.
That sentence sounded like it almost rhymed.
Side Note:
In a way you're doing exactly what I'm trying to do. I went with a bucket system because each bucket has its own reservoir underneath it . It's perfect for controlling each stage of the plant's life . And simplicity is the best way to go. Another added benefit if something goes wrong with the reservoir it doesn't affect the entire system.
Sorry about the large post. I just love everything and anything marijuana and growing
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Smoken-n-Token
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That's what I plan to do as well, but a different configuration for the limited space I have in my closet . As my current living situation doesn't allow me to use a room. So, Im coming up a little mini closet grow system that is perpetual.
I'm going with LED lights so it doesn't heat up the closet. I'm actually quite excited to see what these LEDs can do. It's a full spectrum LED array.
Them 2x4 containers you have how tall are they?
I'm going with LED lights so it doesn't heat up the closet. I'm actually quite excited to see what these LEDs can do. It's a full spectrum LED array.
Them 2x4 containers you have how tall are they?
Smoken-n-Token
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$4,300 in lights?
Not sure if you answer this before but how many plant sites do you plan to have on each 2x4 tray
Did you see the pic and website I posted? The tray is 7 in deep!
32 site 4 per sq foot! I got two of those LEDs
Smoken-n-Token
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Wow, that's one gorgeous light. You weren't kidding about going big.
I'll have no problem helping you out with design ideas and concepts. But seeing that you investing so much money I would suggest you to include Uncle Ben in this thread. He is one of the four most knowledgeable people in these forums with over 40+ years of experience.
I honestly wasn't aware that you were so heavily invested into this. I would hate to lead you wrong with so much riding on it. But that's going to be one bad ass set up when you're finished regardless of which direction you go.
Honestly I feel like I'm out of your league. I'm designing a perpetual system to go into my closet . Don't get me wrong I have grown big grows before.
But I still stand by my original suggestion of aeroponics that much I'm shore of that's worth investing into.
I'll send a PM over to Uncle Ben, I'm sure he'll love to get in on this.
There is no way your out of my League like I said this is my first real grow! Yes I'm invested I want this set up perfect! You have been more than nhelpful and Im so thankful you decided to give a new guy the time of day! Honestly when I first started this thread I was looking for someone to tell me a way to run 4 2x4s with out needing 4 res. I was so green horned I thought I could run a organic tea that would be ok with all of the 8 weeks of flowering. Talked with a tea guy that set me strate I still hot lots of questions!! K
ok thanks for the tip I'll look into it.
Nice thanks A bunch if I could get away with only 1 res. for all stages that would make it so much Easyer. The young one coming strate from clone are able to handle the same mix as the ones in the Final stages of flower?? Do you flush the last week? What strains you find that work the best in your environment?I run my flower res about 1250 most of the time, and veg is about 1000. If I have a whole tray of strains that enjoy it, I might bump it to 1350-1400, but a few of the girls I run prefer about 1200. That is part of how I pick my genetics too. I generally keep plants that like my environment rather then trying to change my environment to meet the needs of 1 strain when the other 6-8 strains all enjoy it.
Where I live the only comparison I can make is to what I can buy from dealers....which mine blows away at all times!! I visited CO for the first US cannabis cup, and have also smoked weed from several RIU members at different points in time. I feel that the quality that comes out of my garden is ALWAYs consistent, and compares with the best of anything else I've ever smoked. I'm not saying mine is the best, but that I've never had a complaint.
Yield depends on which plants I'm harvesting, but on average I harvest between 5-8 oz each run. I'll also add that those are very neatly trimmed ounces also, I don't like leaves in my flowers, and I only use the best trim to make extracts so nothing goes to waste. With an average of 5 oz at a time we'll say, and 4 runs at once, that is roughly 20 oz+ under my 1k HPS for a full cycle. I don't consider that to be anything show stopping, but it keeps me smoking as much dank as I want. On a light harvest, I should be about .5 gpw, on my heavier harvests though it gets much closer to .9 gpw which isn't to shabby.
I run plants in 6 inch square pots from clone to harvest, and I use a mixture of grow stones, hydroton, and some other grow rocks I can't remember the name of. Hope some of this stuff helps man. If you've got room to move things and work, then running a few different res would allow you to dial things in differently. The way I grow has just evolved from the space, time, and money I've had to put into it all.
Smoken-n-Token
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I actually started a thread after discussing with you about Ebb and flow and aeroponics.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/advantages-of-ebb-and-flow-over-aeroponics.849858/
Give it a read from beginning to end, It actually turned out to be quite informative. But even after the discussion I still stand by my aeroponics approach.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/advantages-of-ebb-and-flow-over-aeroponics.849858/
Give it a read from beginning to end, It actually turned out to be quite informative. But even after the discussion I still stand by my aeroponics approach.
Question? If I'm housing mother plans in a dwc system like you suggested how to I go about cleaning it out? The reason I was thinking drit is 1 less thang to worry about. I'm going to have a hard enough time figgering out the reservoir nutrients and cleaning schedule out. Or can I just let it go add Nutes every so offen there just saying in veg. And how long can I let them stay in something like that without gettin root rot. I ready don't want to mess with the mothers just get my clippings and move on? Did I ask that question right understand what I'm getting it?
Thundercat
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The clones love the nutes when they get put into my veg (about 1000ppm) tray. Then after about 2 weeks they go into flower and run at about the same level of nutes (about1250) all through flower. The new clones do great, and my plants stay nice and green up till harvest. There are a few strains I've run that get a little leaf fade near the end, but no biggy.
I have tried flushing, and I stopped doing it years ago except the toilet that is. I make a point of not running real high levels of nutes (just giving them what they need to stay green and happy), and not adding a bunch of extra boosters and stuff. Thus I don't generally feel the need to flush at harvest. I do occasionally run some plain water in my res for 24 hours between res changes to give the whole tray a little flush out. Anyway when the plants are done they get chopped, and the fan leaves get pulled. Some times I trim wet and freeze the trim for QWISO, other times I let the plants dry on the stems and then trim them.
Smoken-n-Token
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The kind of system that you have going, I wouldn't recommend such a guerilla style approach. There are much better ways to go about this.
But to answer your question, what I used to do was to pull out the mother plant from the reservoir and place the mother plant in a temporary holding area. At that point , I will proceed to empty out the old reservoir water PH balance it put nutrients in it all that good stuff. And then the tricky part.
With a 3" net-pot, it's not too difficult to pull the mother out of her home. But it can be quite difficult to get her back in. I would have to gently coax the roots into the 3 inch opening, being sure not to get any snags. Once you get all the little tiny strains to start feeding in the 3 inch hole, You'll get to the main root mass. Not much you can do about this at this point just put it in. And it is really as simple as that.