Sunbiz1
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Here's an idea. Use large cardboard boxes(the taller in height the better)and attach twine back and forth a few times near the bottom of the box. The attach your branches and turn it over.
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matthebrute
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anyone who refuses to to open thier eyes to the dangers of inhaling any smoke is a moron
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2419713.stm
MJ is worse than ciggerett smoke only difference is one gets you high and the other dosent.
Edit: no personal attacks.
matthebrute
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yeah i agree 100% that it is the safer alternative. was just stating that i was talking about smoking a joint or pipe, thats whats bad for your lungs.
really dont want to get into a heated debate over weather its bad for you or not but common sense will tell anyone that it is bad for you, wether it be worse than other things or not i prefer my kids dont find pleasure in inhaling any kind of smoke into thier lungs.
durbanmistyman
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yes marijuana has more tar by weight than tobacco, but is far more healthy as it doesn't contain all the carcinagins, such as arsenic and other thinks, similiar to what you would find in rat poison. There is not one case of marijuana use causing any lung cancer or lung diseases. You are 100% incorrect with your statement and should stop trying to defend it as doing so, as well put by skunkyskunk.
Edit: no personal attacks.
hmmmmm.....
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i would say smoking a doobie is yin and yang, the tobacco being the dark yin, being highly addictive and bad for your health and the yang being the sunny high or bricked in your chair smiling mj with low addiction. plus you would need to smoke 1500 pureys in 30minutes to die with mj i dont know about you guys but i think i would be asleep after 10
k0ijn
Scientia Cannabis
matthebrute
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Evidence shows that tar from cannabis cigarettes contains 50% more cancer causing carcinogens than tobacco.
read the article, and by you saying there is not one case of MJ causing cancer or lung disease just proves your ignorance
matthebrute
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090805110741.htm
heres a more recent one, and really i dont know wich is more harfull and dont really care. my argument is that it IS harmfull.
and if you want to sit there and try and argue with me that it is not harmfull well then....go for it but its going to be a one way argument.
heres a more recent one, and really i dont know wich is more harfull and dont really care. my argument is that it IS harmfull.
and if you want to sit there and try and argue with me that it is not harmfull well then....go for it but its going to be a one way argument.
k0ijn
Scientia Cannabis
The study you link doesn't really prove anything.
Do you know wether cancer develops from damaged chromosomes or just cells?
I personally don't and since marijuana hasn't been linked to cancer or any serious disease, I think you're interpreting the facts wrong.
Anyway, linking a study which proclaims to know cannabis can cause cancer doesn't really hold up when we have a lot of information showing the opposite result;
1st study:
Researchers at the Kaiser-Permanente HMO, funded by NIDA, followed 65,000 patients for nearly a decade, comparing cancer rates among non-smokers, tobacco smokers, and marijuana smokers. Tobacco smokers had massively higher rates of lung cancer and other cancers. Marijuana smokers who didn’t also use tobacco had no increase in risk of tobacco-related cancers or of cancer risk overall. In fact their rates of lung and most other cancers were slightly lower than non-smokers, though the difference did not reach statistical significance. Sidney, S. et al. Marijuana Use and Cancer Incidence (California, United States). Cancer Causes and Control. Vol. 8. Sept. 1997, p. 722-728.
2nd study:
Donald Tashkin, a UCLA researcher whose work is funded by NIDA, did a case-control study comparing 1,200 patients with lung, head and neck cancers to a matched group with no cancer. Even the heaviest marijuana smokers had no increased risk of cancer, and had somewhat lower cancer risk than non-smokers (tobacco smokers had a 20-fold increased lung cancer risk). Tashkin D. Marijuana Use and Lung Cancer: Results of a Case-Control Study. American Thoracic Society International Conference. May 23, 2006.
matthebrute
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the smaller buds that were pretty dry i put in jars and the rest are still hanging, going to jar them tonight or later this afternoon before the kids get home. 4 days should be enough time i didnt have any excessivly huge buds. and ill keep a good eye on them make sure they dont get to moist in the jars.
also they said not to put in direct sunlight as it degrades the THC content in the buds. wish i lived out in the stix where i could hang them on my porch in the shade, nice fresh air circulating through them im sure would be good (without the sunlight hitting them)
matthebrute
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you can pick out what you want to hear, but here is a link to the NIDA
http://www.nida.nih.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html
matthebrute
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Effects on the Lungs
''Numerous studies have shown marijuana smoke to contain carcinogens and to be an irritant to the lungs. In fact, marijuana smoke contains 50-70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than tobacco smoke.''
BTW i want to just set the record straight, i am not trying to deter anyone (except my children) from smoking, I myself smoke. BUT i myself also have accepted the facts, and the facts are there are health risks for smoking MJ, weather or not they are worse than ciggerette's is debatable. if you want to smoke go for it but you should at least accept the reality that smoking MJ is not in any way healthy, yes it does serve medicinal purposes and sometimes the gain is better than the loss (i.e extreme pain in cancer patients, to relieve that pain is definatly a bigger gain than the damage it does to your respitory system)
''Numerous studies have shown marijuana smoke to contain carcinogens and to be an irritant to the lungs. In fact, marijuana smoke contains 50-70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than tobacco smoke.''
BTW i want to just set the record straight, i am not trying to deter anyone (except my children) from smoking, I myself smoke. BUT i myself also have accepted the facts, and the facts are there are health risks for smoking MJ, weather or not they are worse than ciggerette's is debatable. if you want to smoke go for it but you should at least accept the reality that smoking MJ is not in any way healthy, yes it does serve medicinal purposes and sometimes the gain is better than the loss (i.e extreme pain in cancer patients, to relieve that pain is definatly a bigger gain than the damage it does to your respitory system)
k0ijn
Scientia Cannabis
You should stop telling us what to accept and not accept.
I've seen studies, done on huge scales, many thousands of test subjects and they show that non-smoking people have a higher risk of getting cancer than people who smoke Cannabis.
That says a lot, and I'll leave it at that.
Just had to add that I consider it a total farce when pain-wracked terminal cancer patients are denied opiate based pain relief - or any other kind - because they might get addicted. Before they die of the disease? Jeez, you'd think that they could come up with more compassionate and logical reasoning than that.
Sorry, just had to vent.
bcurwi1
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Im sorry matt but if you really think Cannabis is worse for your health then cigarettes you might want to do a little research man. I could probably give you a hundred links to news sites stating how marijuana is no where near as bad for you as tobacco....get your facts straight mayne
Stride
Active Member
Your whole argument is that marijuana has more tar than cigarettes, but tar is not what causes cancer.... Cigs are fertilized with radioactive fertilizer and the fact that no one has gotten cancer from marijuana smoking only says one thing. MARIJUANA DOES NOT CAUSE CANCER. THC has been found to be a protective agent against cancer. And as others have said, marijuana smokers had a less risk of cancer than even non smokers.
Its great you have accepted the "facts" of smoking mj and you do it anyways, but maybe you should learn the correct facts about it first.
Sorry just had to put that out there.
Its great you have accepted the "facts" of smoking mj and you do it anyways, but maybe you should learn the correct facts about it first.
Sorry just had to put that out there.
durbanmistyman
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the three articles you have referenced have 0 scientific fact backing it. Marijuana simply does not cause cancer. "Lung irritation" yes i can see that. Now, i have absolutely no problem with you not wanting your kids to smoke i agree with that it can definitely have negative effects on kids but not cancer causing.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
The amount of radioactives in tobacco (from uranuim and thorium from the rock phosphate fertilizer) is small, much too small to account for cigarette carcinogenicity. Tobacco itself is carcinogenic, not just the smoke ... that's why snuff is also an oral cancer risk.
As for mj carcinogenicity ... yes, there are tars in mj smoke, and they certainly might be carcinogenic. I'd like to see better studies ... However the low lung disease incidence among weed smokers 9incl. pound-a-week types like in Jamaica!) seems to circumstantially argue for the claim that mj is a countercarcinogen.
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