Padawanbater2
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Just because the most it could amount to is the same issues we have with your testimony. Hearsay. I'd have to talk to the source directly to get any actual answers.
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Zaehet Strife
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Most people would rather die than think; in fact, they do so.
Whenever you find yourself getting angry about a difference of opinion, be on your guard; you will probably find, on examination, that your belief is going beyond what the evidence warrants.
Whenever you find yourself getting angry about a difference of opinion, be on your guard; you will probably find, on examination, that your belief is going beyond what the evidence warrants.
tyler.durden
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Neo felt the same way. Pad, you may be The One................................................................
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P.S. Can you tell I recently pirated and re-watched this trilogy? Great while baked...
Padawanbater2
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One of my all time favorites, hands down!
Just about everything about it is perfect, it revolutionized the entertainment industry!
The parallels between Christianity and The Matrix are genius! And the elevator scene in the first one almost made me [youtube]VLnWf1sQkjY[/youtube]
Chief Walkin Eagle
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I've gathered information from other people and never really experienced what I am talking about first hand? I dont get it.
He is one of the sources. There is two people.
Padawanbater2
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Are you talking about your friend with the gift directly or the other guy, like you, whose experienced the same thing you have?
I'd need to speak to the source, the guy with the gift, directly in order to establish any kind of legitimate data. If I spoke to the other guy, the guy who experienced the same thing you did, the results would be the same as with you, there's just no way to verify anything through the third party, though I don't think it would be completely in vain..
Chief Walkin Eagle
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They both have the 'gift'. I think I made that clear every time I mentioned the other guy, which is only a few times so I dont blame you for not remembering.
Padawanbater2
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They both have the gift of reading minds? If that's the case, and he's willing to answer questions, then I'd be happy to engage with him, no hostility, I promise.
I was under the impression you only had one friend who had this ability.
tyler.durden
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That is incorrect. He has no friends that have this ability...
Chief Walkin Eagle
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Yes, because Im trying SO hard to get everyone to believe my lie even though I know no matter what I say no one will believe me. I could provide both their information (under their consent) to Pad, get some other friends to confirm what I am talking about, and there would still be disbelief. BUT Im still trying, for reasons I do not know... Great logic Tyler lol
guy incognito
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It's a conspiracy. You do everything short of providing actual evidence, and they still don't believe you!
Chief Walkin Eagle
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What evidence is there when we are separated by a few thousand miles? lol Best I can do is get one of them to agree to have a chat, but I dont think thats gunna happen. That wouldnt of proved anything to you guys anyways. Is there any spiritual explanation from my friends that you wouldnt laugh at? You guys are hounding me and Im just feeding the hounds unsatisfiable hunger. You could just say "Bullshit" and call it a day and I'll be like "Cool, man". But instead I get "Bullshit! what about this? what about that? I think this about that therefore that is bullshit!". You guys ask, I answer.
Pretty much the only evidence there is to be had is a personal experience by a skeptic you trust. Tyler brought up the idea about gathering some money from those willing to pay and send Pad here for an educational field trip, but Im assuming you guys are thinking that Im setting up the most epic troll prank to send Pad across the boarder for nothing. Im not that kinda guy but even if I was, BC is fucking beautiful and he'd love it lol. I'd agree to any punishment if I was just trolling and sent Pad here for nothing, Im sure you guys could think of something better than banning me from RIU. This is REALLY getting old though. If I shown Pad my spiritual friends and my other group of friends that also experienced their abilities, that still wouldnt be proving anything. You'd just make a mockery about the spiritual explanations and what all my friends had to say. So really there are two options. Say "Bullshit" and move on without questions, or start up a fundraiser to change Pads life.
Pretty much the only evidence there is to be had is a personal experience by a skeptic you trust. Tyler brought up the idea about gathering some money from those willing to pay and send Pad here for an educational field trip, but Im assuming you guys are thinking that Im setting up the most epic troll prank to send Pad across the boarder for nothing. Im not that kinda guy but even if I was, BC is fucking beautiful and he'd love it lol. I'd agree to any punishment if I was just trolling and sent Pad here for nothing, Im sure you guys could think of something better than banning me from RIU. This is REALLY getting old though. If I shown Pad my spiritual friends and my other group of friends that also experienced their abilities, that still wouldnt be proving anything. You'd just make a mockery about the spiritual explanations and what all my friends had to say. So really there are two options. Say "Bullshit" and move on without questions, or start up a fundraiser to change Pads life.
Padawanbater2
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I'm 100% down for it, I just set up a paypal account, just waiting for it to be approved, it will probably take a couple days..
I'd like to know who is interested in this, who would donate to the cause? I'm not asking for it, don't expect it, and would never hold any of you against it for not donating anything. Just interested in figuring a realistic number.
Also, to Chief, who would you want to come with me out of TD, mindphuk, Z, guyincognito, Heisenberg, or any of the other skeptics?
And to any of the skeptics, who would want to join me in such a venture if possible?
I would record everything, and edit the footage to put online in a documentary style clip for all you guys to see, completely free, for entertainment and educational purposes.
Who knows, I'd even be down for a road trip of sorts if the flight is out of the question.
Chief Walkin Eagle
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Wow, things are moving quickly lol. Shouldnt start collecting money yet though, I havent even mentioned this to my friends. Im REALLY hoping they are down for it because your lookin to get some serious exposure on this.
Hmm, I guess Z would be a good choice since hes one of the younger guys. Wouldnt feel too out of place with us 18-21 year olds. It would be a good time. beers, doobies and maybe some shrooms later to amplify the experience, after the sober tests of course.
tyler.durden
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I'm down for a donation, let me know how it goes...
tyler.durden
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I think the best chance for a supernatural experience would be after the beers, doobies and shrooms
guy incognito
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It's because we need to know. Because no one in history has ever had these abilities you claim despite millions of people making these claims. Not one person EVER.
Imagine this scenario:
Guy incognito: Hey guys, I just discovered cold fusion.
everybody: OMG that is so cool! This is going to solve the energy crisis! This is one of the biggest discoveries in history! How does it work?
gi: Oh I don't know how it works, I can't explain, but I have experienced it first hand.
eb: Uh, really? Can we observe it for ourselves?
gi: Probably not. It's my friend really and he probably won't agree to this. But maybe.
eb: So then how do we verify what you are saying is true?
gi: Y'all just be hating on me. No matter how much unverifiable and untestable statements I make, no matter how much special pleading I partake in, you guys won't believe me.
eb: Correct, we need actual evidence. This is the same standard we hold everybody else, and everything to.
There is more than just a personal experience from a skeptic I trust; In fact that would not really be acceptable. Pad or Heis's word alone is not enough to convince me. They could potentially lie. They could also make a mistake or be deceived by your friend. I want it to be an actual controlled experiment that can clearly demonstrate this ability while ruling out cheating, interference (intentional or not), or other bias. The only reason to object to controlled testing is because you know it will fail. If it is true then it should be easily demonstratable and repeatable.
Chief Walkin Eagle
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I have partially explained how it works. Everyone has the tools to do it and we are obliviously doing it sometimes but we simply dismiss it as coincidence. Your thoughts are not confined to your own head, they are constantly streaming out like clouds or strings , my friend wouldnt be inside your head reading your mind but instead just sitting there and receiving the thoughts that include him. If his brain was scanned during the thought receiving there would only be brain activity in the pineal gland and other central organs. There would be absolutely no way to detect the thoughts that are coming or going because they are of the soul, which is impossible to detect.
I am confident no matter what the test. But the thought of doing 52 card tests and number tests just annoys me. Why jump through hoops when you can get straight to the point with one or two questions from Pad? Perhaps my friend could try reciting what Pad thinks word-for-word, taking out the stuff that Pad doesnt want people to here, because the mind is quite chaotic, especially when you know someone is reading it.
Chief Walkin Eagle
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This is quite the big deal though so I'll have to try and convince them in person. Hopefully I will chill with them this weekend.