Producing Feminised Seeds Using Colloidal Silver

Grumpy Old Dreamer said:

All from the same mother.

The male flowers are getting close to being ready and the plant is now isolated from all other plants - hopefully in a few days the pollinating will be able to be done.

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I always thought that you take the female pollen and pollinate another female of the same strain to make feminized, and if you self pollinate a plant the seeds are hermed. But, if this works then it'd be a whole lot easier to have one plant to work with.

nice work a nice study some very nice pics

i agree better to use clones cause you cant do nothing with plant after sprayed cause its poisonus

i might try it one day i must re read the steps to find out how much you spray and how often

i would buy you a drink but you will have to settle for pl rep

1Luv

dannydakota said:

I always thought that you take the female pollen and pollinate another female of the same strain to make feminized, and if you self pollinate a plant the seeds are hermed. But, if this works then it'd be a whole lot easier to have one plant to work with.

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I found that I 'self-pollenated' a female with light stress and tearing roots, I got males and females.
It could have been a genetic hermi though.

Dwezelitsame said:

nice work a nice study some very nice pics

i agree better to use clones cause you cant do nothing with plant after sprayed cause its poisonus

i might try it one day i must re read the steps to find out how much you spray and how often

i would buy you a drink but you will have to settle for pl rep

1Luv

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200ml of Colloidal Silver sprayed daily - lasted 16 days, second batch of Colloidal Slver was made but only used for one day - then I used it to clear a skin condition on my dog

... I started applying the pollen a couple of days ago and finally took some more pikkies to show the progress of the "experiment".

Because of limited space and the need to keep the pollen isolated until I was controlling where it went, I decided to enclose the (she)male in a container of some sort.

What I ended up doing was taking a CD and cutting a slot through to the centre hole, the CD was then slid around the stem of the plant and taped to the pot.
I then wrapped a "tube" of white paper round the pot with the paper tightly gripping the CD.
I then topped off the "tube" with one of the false CD's that are found at the end of a spindle of CDs (they are used to protect the last CD in the spindle and are just clear plastic with a hole in the middle).

This set-up allowed me to leave the (she)male in my flowering chamber with little chance of pollen escaping.



The paper "tube" prevented any condensation or humidity problems as any moisture just passes through the paper.
The clear top allowed the plant to continue receiving light and I could access the developing male flowers through the hole. Some male flowers are developing below the plants apex and maybe that pollen can be collected later.



I pluck the male flowers just before they are fully ripe ... before they shoot their load, and place the pollen sacs in a small plastic bag to ripen and release the pollen. The bag is kept open at the top to allow any moisture to freely escape.



Once I have some pollen in the baggie, all I need to do is use a pointy bamboo skewer to pick up a light dusting of pollen and individually stroke the pistils of the females.
As each pistil receives pollen and pollination is successful, the pistil turns brown and starts to shrivel, over a few days I just keep applying pollen to any pistils that are still white to maximise the number of seeds that I make.
After about a week of pollination, I will allow the plants to get on with growing the seeds and hopefully all the seeds will fully ripen within a week of each other.

These last two photos are the partially pollinated females showing many browned pistils.

Are you going to plant these seeds and keep us posted?

MuntantLizzard said:

Are you going to plant these seeds and keep us posted?

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Most definitely, just have to wait about 5 weeks or so for the seeds to grow and ripen.

Nice.. looking good so far. I'm eager to see results =D

This really seems to be working out well. I will be trying it myself soon. I have WW clones from a mother grown from femized seed. I got my two ingots of silver, but I may go in search of some wire instead. It might be better and easier to use wire that can go deeper in the water, and I'm thinking I can stick the alligator clips through a couple holes in some sort of bridge across the glass.

This is unrelated to the thread, but I was wondering..maybe G.O.D. or TaoWolf can answer. The description of how this works mentions that it suppresses the production of ethylene. As I understand it, it is the production of ethylene that causes fruits and vegetables to ripen too fast once you bring them home. Those special green bags work by absorbing ethylene, right? Well, would CS work here, if you lightly sprayed produce with it? Then wash it off before using? Maybe I'm just stoned lol

tet1953 said:

The description of how this works mentions that it suppresses the production of ethylene. As I understand it, it is the production of ethylene that causes fruits and vegetables to ripen too fast once you bring them home. Those special green bags work by absorbing ethylene, right? Well, would CS work here, if you lightly sprayed produce with it? Then wash it off before using? Maybe I'm just stoned lol

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I wouldn't routinely apply silver to food... it can make your skin turn blue'ish/grey (Argyria) if you consume enough over time... including the sclera of your eyes. That said, there are a lot of people who drink colloidal silver fairly routinely. Personally I wouldn't risk drinking it or using on any food with any frequency at all.

But I would guess the silver would likely have a moderate antimicrobial effect and possibly slow down decomposition from external microbes. And silver does act to prevent ethylene signaling from occurring at a cellular level. Which is what prevents male flowers from forming during flowering but which is also used later to signal rapid ripening... If CS is effective enough to prevent ethylene signaling in regards to flower production... I'd think it's plausible that it would also work to prevent fruits and vegetables from ripening quickly or in response to bruising/damage. No real idea though.

Just to Add to the voltage and what not.

I used some silver rods (99.999% pure) and ran them on 12volt DC Train controller (voltmeter showed flucuation of 9-12.6v) for an hour and got a cloudy mix with ppt at the bottom. SO it seems that if you are upping the voltage you should only run for a few minutes or you saturate the solution

skiz1989 said:

Just to Add to the voltage and what not.

I used some silver rods (99.999% pure) and ran them on 12volt DC Train controller (voltmeter showed flucuation of 9-12.6v) for an hour and got a cloudy mix with ppt at the bottom. SO it seems that if you are upping the voltage you should only run for a few minutes or you saturate the solution

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I think it is probably easier and more reliable to stick with a phone charger - they seem to work with no problems. A cloudy mix with precipitates at the bottom doesn't quite sound right

I am confident that my girls have been well pollinated so I decided to release the male from captivity.

I am amazed at how many flowers such a tiny plant can produce.

I have well pollinated my two girls and collected a lot of pollen to be sent away to pollinate a friends plant and the male could easily supply about 10 times as much pollen again.

Have a look at just how small the male was ....



Just look at all those yummy trichomes, anyone would think that the plant was once a female

Im also amazed at how much flowers that little thing produced!!

Now that you got a lighter in the picture that thing is tiny haha

More than enough pollen for your girls and looks like you got more to spare

About a week after pollination the two plants are showing developing seeds, most are buried in the bud but the ones at the tip are clearly visible.



The plants are still producing fresh pistils but this should slow down as the plant feeds the growing seeds.

i am getting excited while i follow your thread, i cant wait to see them germ!!

This almost seems to easy to be true....good info and subed to see how the end results turn out...plus rep...happy growing

I'd give you more rep if I could Grumpy... please keep the updates coming.

Very interesting thread, I have never even considered making feminized seeds because I though it was too difficult. You make it seem pretty simple. Good info.

TaoWolf said:

I wouldn't routinely apply silver to food... it can make your skin turn blue'ish/grey (Argyria) if you consume enough over time... including the sclera of your eyes. That said, there are a lot of people who drink colloidal silver fairly routinely. Personally I wouldn't risk drinking it or using on any food with any frequency at all.

But I would guess the silver would likely have a moderate antimicrobial effect and possibly slow down decomposition from external microbes. And silver does act to prevent ethylene signaling from occurring at a cellular level. Which is what prevents male flowers from forming during flowering but which is also used later to signal rapid ripening... If CS is effective enough to prevent ethylene signaling in regards to flower production... I'd think it's plausible that it would also work to prevent fruits and vegetables from ripening quickly or in response to bruising/damage. No real idea though.

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I have a friend who takes CS drops.He uses 100 ppm for himself and 10 ppm for his family.He swears by the shit but I tried one drop and felt metallic for a few days.Nasty shit Bro's.