myke
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He did mention he has no problems with paprika and peppers? So I’m lost. Somebody is poring vinegar on his plants.
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this is what my paprika looks like in DWC, the previous ones were also healthy and I didn't even aerate the water, I grew using the method with an air pump, i.e. DWC, and without aeration and no problems, no rot, only hemp gets sick. Nobody pours me anything, nobody sabotages my cannabis.
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DoubleAtotheRON
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About a pound.
as I have no ideas what to do next and how to do it to be good, I thought about two things, buying tomato seeds and buying RQS hemp seeds directly from their own original site, no intermediate stores, because I used private stores which are intermediaries, could it be the fault of the seeds old seeds, improperly kept, and thus becoming weak and diseased seedlings? is it possible? now I had a third, emergency thought, so fertilize the soil with ghe fertilizers after the first week from the exit with a very delicate dose, ghe fertilizers do not require decomposition by living organisms as is the case with natural fertilizers which are first eaten by bacteria and microbes and only their faeces become available to plants, this is more or less how it looks in nature. Other ideas? another question is ... how does RQS store its seeds? I can't afford the newest varieties at the moment, but it would guarantee the freshness of these seeds ... but I have no money, I think about their cheaper seeds, some seasonal seeds. I tried spraying with fertilizers, I thought that if something is blocking the roots, maybe it will be possible to feed the plant through the leaves until it builds a healthy root system, but it also did not help, maybe I was doing something wrong with this spraying, too much dose? too rare? I am still looking for a solution to my problem, you have no idea what joy I would feel if my cannabis grows as healthy as my paprika ...
JimmyJackCorn
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I'm interested in the solution to your problem. I am glad to see pictures. More might be good, if you took pictures through your past failed tries.
However, that pepper plant does not look good. It has many ripening peppers, yes, but those leaves are very small and twisted, giving the plant an overall unhealthy look (I have grown many varieties of peppers in my day, including paprika).
There is a connection between the sickly pepper plant and the dying cannabis seedlings. My first instinct is pH. Make sure your meter is functioning properly.
edit: I have also seen aphids cause pepper plants to stunt and curl their leaves.
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myke
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He said he grew those peppers without air in dwc,could be why the leaves look funny.
when it comes to peppers you are right, the leaves had strange spots that looked like glass, they were colorless, but the peppers grew nicely, most likely it is a genetic result, I germinated the peppers in the ground, after 3 or 4 weeks I replanted two peppers to baskets with expanded clay and went to jars with water, one was aerated, i.e. the DWC method, and the other was without a pump and stone, the Method grate, the translator changes the words to me, I gave the dots. The peppers already had such leaves in the ground, but believe me ... if my hemp grew like this pepper, I would be jumping for joy. As for the PH, I have 2 pH electronic meters and one drop test from GHE, I have calibration powders for good, but to be sure that the powders are working, I bought a liter of PH 7 liquid from vitalink. The pH is good, the ec meter also shows well because I have a calibration fluid, I bought it unnecessarily because my EC meter is not calibrated, but when I put it into the liquid, it shows a moistened value, so I know that the EC meter works, just like PH meters. ph metryam two so that one looks after the other, if I see strong differences, it calibrates them.
this is my current pepper, a different variety and other seeds, sown in the ground, I start by soaking the seeds for 2 days in a glass, then I put it in the ground, the same soil as from the hemp, from the same bag, the pepper somehow grows, then after 3 or For 4 weeks I wash the pepper roots in standing water at room temperature, put them in a basket, sprinkle balls and that's it, I pour water with a light dose of fertilizer, pH 5.8 and EC 0.5 / ppm 250-300 by everything by itself, pH and EC control daily. I give enough water in the jar so that half of the roots are above the water so that they can breathe, hydroponics is simple, not only I had paprika in hydroponics, I also had catnip, it grew so large that I had to get rid of it, she drank a liter of water a day, I felt sorry for the fertilizer . 2 kinds of peppers, catnip, healthy and pretty.
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Iceman8700
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Mate, ur not alone..I'm dealing with the same issue after moving to another country. Same methods and equipment and I grew massive plants before. Been using maxibloom from start to finish with tap water in dwc. Now I cannot wrap my head around this issue...very frustrating and I totally understand you..
Here where I am now tap water is 1400ppm..usually nobody drinks and everyone opts for ro. I've switched between six suppliers for ro water but still the issue persists..tried calmag, h202, microbes, bleach..man I'm tired too..never had to use any of that before..
One ray of hope for me is trying to change the water. My friend is growing successfully with a certain brand of ro water measuring 15ppm with a ph above 7. The earlier ones I was sourcing were from a range of 10-44ppm but ph of them all were below 6.2. Previously when I grew with tap it measured 44ppm and ph 7.3.
Im guessing there's something to do with that..the ph of the water before adding nutes. I could be wrong too..as I've even tried to ph the 5.8 ro water to 7.3 and added nutes hoping it will improve but it only got worse.
I really hope I could figure what is causing this..total madness! Wasted many seeds like you..sleepless nights trying to figure this out..
For me I feel the trigger is root rot..bit even tho I've had rot before, once cleared, growth is very soon back to normal..now I'm facing deficiencies that I cannot match with the leaf diagnosis chart..fucked up feeling..
Here where I am now tap water is 1400ppm..usually nobody drinks and everyone opts for ro. I've switched between six suppliers for ro water but still the issue persists..tried calmag, h202, microbes, bleach..man I'm tired too..never had to use any of that before..
One ray of hope for me is trying to change the water. My friend is growing successfully with a certain brand of ro water measuring 15ppm with a ph above 7. The earlier ones I was sourcing were from a range of 10-44ppm but ph of them all were below 6.2. Previously when I grew with tap it measured 44ppm and ph 7.3.
Im guessing there's something to do with that..the ph of the water before adding nutes. I could be wrong too..as I've even tried to ph the 5.8 ro water to 7.3 and added nutes hoping it will improve but it only got worse.
I really hope I could figure what is causing this..total madness! Wasted many seeds like you..sleepless nights trying to figure this out..
For me I feel the trigger is root rot..bit even tho I've had rot before, once cleared, growth is very soon back to normal..now I'm facing deficiencies that I cannot match with the leaf diagnosis chart..fucked up feeling..
colleagues, I have a question, I have a white widow massacred by auromatic life, I am explaining what's going on, this plant came out of the ground on 04/04/2021, it is now a month old, it spent almost 20 days in the ground (there was a problem that I have been experiencing for a year) I decided to replant to DWC, I washed the roots and the plant went to the disk I made myself, they are used for cloning, I broke off a lot of roots and the plant is sitting in this form in DWC, I noticed a few days ago that it has sprouted new roots, thicker and stronger, the leaves still wither but new strong roots are a good sight, the problem is that he is already blooming ... I see Italian, if it was a seasonal variety, I would give fertilizers for growth, but he is blooming, so I have to give him fertilizers is he blooming? the plant is tiny, it looks like 2 weeks old, give it Canna aqua flower?
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@Iceman8700 it's sad what I write but on the one hand I'm glad that I'm not alone, on the other hand it's sad that someone has a similar problem because I don't wish it to anyone, it's a terrible feeling when time and money go down the drain, in my case it can't be bad water, I have super tap water, 98 ppm / 0.2 ec / pH 8.0, drinkable straight from the tap, theoretically with such tap water you do not need a reverse osmosis filter, I tried several varieties of water, mine from the tap after standing, then filtered it with a jug one for filtering water, nothing helped, I drove the car to a large store and bought a few large bottles of non-carbonated and low-mineralized water, still no improvement, so I bought more barrels of different water in another store and it still did not help, finally I bought a RO water filter which cleans my tap water up to 11ppm, if it was the fault of the tap water, then the mineral water would give healthy plants and not, with each water there is the same problem but here again I have to mention my paprika, paprika grows that's beautiful in this water RO, so why is paprika healthy and cannabis sick? it's not the water's fault, maybe it's your water's fault, buy a few bottles of water without low-mineralized gas, make a small DWC from a small bucket, so as not to use a lot of water and fertilizer and check my friend, maybe changing your water will solve this sad problem?
Southernontariogrower
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Do you touch the roots? While checking them, bacteria from you could be the problem. No clue except overwaterng causes weakness in plants. But dwc is in water constantly. Like l said no clue, my grow area is a mess and they all live. Sounds like you need to give seedlings some lactic acid bacterium. Look it up on youtube. Its very good probiotic for plants and people. Labs is the other name for it. Only a guess but cant hurt.
Southernontariogrower
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Maybe try a pinch of epsom salts in you water?
I use Google translator, sorry if it sounds wrong but I don't have any other form of communication, I don't touch the roots, after that when I tried to have the cannabis in the ground, it is known that the roots were hidden in the ground and the leaves withered and development stopped. My trials have been going on for 14 months ... during this time I have tried everything, I germinated seeds in many ways, in soil, coke, in a wool cube, in eazy plug, white widow, I transferred to DWC because it managed to grow a little but then it grew he stopped and started to remove it, then I decided to put it on the hydroponics, the jar allows me to see the roots, I have an insight into whether they are growing, what color and smell they have, you can't see it in the ground, now I have a few cuttings, two in the ground and in hydroponics, white widow is the biggest of all ... now shows a photo of my power plant from dutch Passion, the plant is 12 days old ... its leaves are already withering, RO water, 250 ppm, pH 5.8, I germinated it in an ankle times plug which I soaked in water with a pH of 5.8, in addition, I cried clay balls in water with a pH of 5.8 for 5 days to catch a good pH, I catch every idea, every ...
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I have calmag atami
Read the first post and looked at the pics. Your problem is that your root mass was not sufficient to handle the environment they were thrown into and your young plant got stressed. The only cure at that point is to treat them with baby gloves and let them get over the stress till the root mass is enough to handle it and you will see them come around if you can make it that far.
it makes sense, I agree that something is blocking the roots, the retained roots are the whole plant stopped, it is as if it couldn't eat, but why? he cannot eat in the ground, he cannot eat in coconut and he cannot eat in hydroponics, what is the cause of this condition? I have a good pH, good ec, I do not fertilize the soil, the fertilizer in hydroponics is according to the guidelines, 250/300 ppm, what is blocking these roots? my poor root growth can be seen at the beginning, I watched hundreds of photo reports, people put small sprouts directly into clay balls, others germinated in coconut or in the ground and then washed these roots and put them in hydro and it all grew, I saw their roots, they grew crazy , bigger by the day, their roots after 5 days were 5 times bigger than mine after 30 days, but most importantly ... it grows in the ground for people, the easiest method, I have biotabs, it should grow beautifully and they get sick ...
myke
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250 ppm is to strong for a seedling.put humidity dome over plant asap!