Problem X

Hello, at the outset, I must point out that what you read here is far from basic knowledge, the problem that I will describe here is so strange that I can only call it "X" But to the point. I wanted one cannabis flower, the variety didn't matter but I chose the ones advertised as the easiest, the seedling stops growing for no reason between the first and second week, the lower leaves get necrotic at the top of the leaves and they begin to wither and this is where everything starts, I was advised various things, that it is a problem with pH, that too much water, that the soil is too rich and the plant burns, I started to systematically replace and research everything, plagron soil, biobizz light mix, Profesional canna and soil from a nearby garden shop ... Nothing helped , I bought two pH meters, calibration fluids and pH + and pH biobizz fluids - to regulate the water, I poured water with a pH of 6.3 but subsequent attempts ended the same. So I thought that since it is not the earth, it must be water, I was pouring water from the tap will stand 24 hours, water from the Britt kettle and 3 different mineral waters bought in 3 different stores, I also bought a reverse osmosis filter, the problem still appeared, someone advised me that I overflow the plants, I disagreed with it, but every option to try is good, as long as I manage to get the situation under control, I started to weigh the pot with a kitchen scale to know when it dries up, but nothing helped, the next method of watering was spraying the plants, it did not help, I bought biotabs starter, I thought that good bacteria and fungi would help me, they did not help ... I went a step further, set aside the soil and bought EC meter, canna coconut and ghe flora fertilizers as well as pH + and ph - also from ghe but it was even worse than with earth and here I was pissed off, I replaced the lamp, from CFL 250w dual to Mars hydro ts600 and then I bought a ts1000, I bought a Silent fan and entered hydroponics, I bought a strong air pump, stones n aerators and 20 L pots and a set of canna aqua fertilizers as well as rhizotonic additives, voodoo juice with bacilus bacteria, cal mag atami, titanite, silicate from ghe, clay balls from canna and a water thermometer. The conditions of my hydro were perfect, just like in the case of others, the temperature in the box, the temperature of the water, light and ventilation, everything according to the instructions and guides, exactly according to the photo report and still the same! I thought maybe they were old seeds? I bought a different variety, original RQS packaging, Dutch Passion, Barney, white widow, ak47, Critical, northern light, slots, seasons ... Nothing helped, so I bought seeds in another store, later in another store and still the same. .. I replaced everything, soil, water, fertilizers, lamps, seeds, combined with watering, with the height of the lamps ... Nothing helped, everything has been going on for a year ... Dozens of seeds died, I threw away the earth, electricity bills and nothing helps ... So I did an experiment, I bought paprika seeds, I germinated them in the ground and after a month I transferred them to the DWC ... I used the knowledge I had during this year of reading and unsuccessful doing, the peppers grew beautiful! No problems, they grew big and gave a yield in the form of beautiful peppers ... I grew several varieties of peppers in this way using the DWC and kratky Method method and everything grew ... Hemp still does not grow ... Have any of you encountered such a paradox? Please ... I really am asking for help because I do not know what to do next, I tried everything, I read, I look at the reports, I listed everything and I still fail, it is strange that other plants grow without problems, just like my peppers ... Only with hemp I have this problem, have any of you encountered such a case? When it comes to hemp at DWC, I've germinated seeds in different ways, in soil, in coconut, in eazy plug cubes, and in wool cubes. The strange thing is that hemp stops the growth of the roots ... It seems crucial to me, withering leaves can be the reason why the nutrients are not absorbed ... But why? Pepper grows under the same conditions and builds strong roots! I have not had a case of root rot, neither with hemp nor with paprika, I use voodoo juice which has a bacterial strain of bacilus but even without these bacteria the roots of peppers are beautiful and strong, the cannabis puts out one thin one that breaks off, no root growth can be seen ... is the reason for this? What causes this condition? If I did something wrong, the peppers would also get sick and die ... But the packet grows, so why haven't I ever grown green cannabis in a year?

Try growing in soil first. Soil is much more forgiving and newbie friendly.
That's the best option I have for you.
Hydro or coco are fine to start with but expect a lot of trial and error and just read a lot of guides. All the info is out there in thousands of different places. If you do go for coco or hydro again just make sure ph is correct and nute levels are correct for the age.

I would highly reccommend soil though. You'll learn a lot about the cannabis plant that will help you in any growing scenario.

I don't think you read me, my friend I wrote that I tried with soil, even 4 types, before I tried hydro, I tried the soil for half a year ... I started with the hydro because it allows the cultivation to be 100% under control, there are also some in the ground because none of us I don't know what's in this earth but I tried the earth, even with biotabs and it didn't help ...

I can feel your frustration, the plant looks burned, some of the roots aren't white. My noob guess would be hot soil and possible light stress & pH imbalance.

Try growing in regular dirt from your back yard, if it goes will transfer it to potting soil after it establishes itself.

Wish you the best.

the plant in the ground is in a light mixture, no fertilizers .... I also tried with fertilizers, I tried everything, nothing helps, something is blocking it ... just what? why does paprika grow It can't be my mistake, because in the year since I tried, although accidentally one cannabis would grow ... at least once accidentally, nothing works, the package is beautiful and healthy, the cannabis withers again and again, ps. this "big" cannabis at DWC was 2 months old ... and it looks like a plant that is 2 weeks old ... what could it be? I'm already so paranoid that I moved the box to the other end of the room because I thought it might be some feng shui energy? I know it sounds funny but imagine that you are in my place and for a year you have been trying to have one and only cannabis plant, imagine that you mentioned everything and you already have no ideas what to do next ... now I do not know what to do anymore, for this reason I am asking for help here, I already lack the strength and no ideas.

Tuptup said:

I don't think you read me, my friend I wrote that I tried with soil, even 4 types, before I tried hydro, I tried the soil for half a year ... I started with the hydro because it allows the cultivation to be 100% under control, there are also some in the ground because none of us I don't know what's in this earth but I tried the earth, even with biotabs and it didn't help ...

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I hate to be that guy but I don't feel like you're giving us the entire story.
Something you are doing is not right. Either your temps are getting too high or too low, you water is extremely contaminated, your soil is from a poor source, etc.
If you find an easy strain to grow (and most common strains are) The plant practically grows itself. If it is given a decent temperature range, watered properly (not too much, and not too little) they practically grow like grass. It's almost hard to mess it up.

Get some decent soil, some decent seeds, keep track of the temperature and water quality going in and you'll have a harvest in no time.

If it's available to you also look into something like growers recharge. With this added to your soil it's even harder to fail.

I understand your way of thinking, this is how easy it is to grow paprika in hydro, that is easy and pleasant, does not arouse your suspicions that paprika grows and hemp does not? I did with the soil as you advise me, I bought different soil in different stores, I gave beneficial bacteria and mycorrhiza, I added perlite, I made a mix of soil + coconut + perlite, the temperatures are good, I have perfect parameters, hence I called it the problem X. A few months ago that's what I hoped, every change of the element gave me hope that "now it will work" I have new soil, now it will go because I bought a pH meter, now it will grow because I have hydro, new fertilizers, new seeds and it lasted until I replaced everything ... hemp is still sick, you wrote about bad dirty water ... you don't really read me, after all I wrote that I used 3 types of mineral water, I even have a RO reverse osmosis filter just for the reason that the water parameters are perfect and the pepper likes it, likes it this water, these fertilizers, this lamp and these parameters ... because the pepper grows ...

are there any indoor plants that are harmful to cannabis in some way? I also don't have worms, the roots in the ground grow a bit more than in the DWC, I know this because I use colorless bottles to see if the root grows, of course, later I wrap this bottle in aluminum foil because the root does not like light. another strange thing is that this disease starts very early, at the seedling stage when the plant is very fragile ... my plant doesn't get sick after 2 months just every time it starts between 7th and 14th day ... and nothing later helps, I read that someone poured their plant, then sewed it and the plant came back to life, my cannabis does not nourish, it stops development and it gradually withers ...

I honestly think that some of you guys try too hard.

my current position is due to a series of failures, when I started a year ago, I had CFL 250w, 3 auto ak47 seeds, try a biobizz fertilizer pack and a droplet meter ph, it was supposed to be cheap and pleasant ... that's what it was supposed to be, but for me something is wrong ... do you think it's nice to pay for electricity? for additives such as voodoo juice, rhizotonic and a lot of equipment from air pumps to dozens of seeds and I have nothing of it ... I'm trying to solve it, I don't know what to do, on the one hand I see sick cannabis and next to it there is a beautiful healthy pepper ... . wtf?

and now like this: the disease is not from overflow of water because in hydroponics you cannot "overflow", so it is not the fault of bad earth because in hydro the same happens ... it's just fucking weird that it happens in the ground and in hydro and you can to think that I am doing something wrong but WHY SO PAPRICA IS GROWING HEALTHY? I don't understand it ...

Tuptup said:

do you think it's nice to pay for electricity? for additives such as voodoo juice, rhizotonic and a lot of equipment from air pumps to dozens of seeds and I have nothing of it .

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Yeah man, I've been there. Keep it simple tho. Change up your nute line to something simple like the Flora Trio, a base soil (no amendments), and just let it do it's thing under T5 lights till they are established. There's alot of "helicopter" growers out there that get so locked in the grow box, that they forget to forget about it, and end up fucking up as much as they are trying to fix a problem. If I see a leaf that's getting spots or rust on the edges,... I dont do anything. Just let it grow, unless the problem is getting worse, then you need to take action. But most of the time, it's as simple as growing weeds.

I agree with you, I felt this simplicity in hydroponics with paprika, I like it because I have control over everything, nothing goes with cannabis ... neither in the ground nor in the water and the worst thing is that it stops growing and stands, only what is happening it is the leaves that wither from bottom to top.

Tuptup said:

I agree with you, I felt this simplicity in hydroponics with paprika, I like it because I have control over everything, nothing goes with cannabis ... neither in the ground nor in the water and the worst thing is that it stops growing and stands, only what is happening it is the leaves that wither from bottom to top.

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You ever try soil?... some people say it's complicated, and hydro is complicated to me only because I've never done it. But, its really simple. Especially if you're only growing ~6 plants or so.

na yt in timelaps films I saw crazy root growth ... a large root is a strong plant, a root is a base, my root does not grow even a fraction like in the movies, I watched hundreds of photo reports from around the world, I repeated the steps of successful people step by step that is, they reached the harvest ... for me nothing works like for them, I will repeat it again, but why do I grow paprika? another variety ... without any problems on both ghe flora Series and canna aqua fertilizers, it is strange that I only have problems with cannabis and I think this stuck root growth is crucial, what might be causing it? if I made a mistake with the pH of the water or its temperature, or that the EC would be too high, the papdy would also get sick ... the lock is the key but what causes it?

I tried 4 types of soil, coconut, a mix of soil with coco and perlite, only at the end I tried hydroponics ... and only because I thought there was something wrong with this soil, I also did a test with dry and dry soil because I thought maybe too much in it fertilizer.

Tuptup said:

I tried 4 types of soil, coconut, a mix of soil with coco and perlite, only at the end I tried hydroponics ... and only because I thought there was something wrong with this soil, I also did a test with dry and dry soil because I thought maybe too much in it fertilizer.

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I don't know man.... But, if I ever need a paprika hookup, I'll give you a shout.

What are the temperatures in your grow room? I think certain peppers thrive in hot weather. I keep my grow room around 80 degrees with the led's.
Only other thing I could think of is some kind of pest? If you switched from soil, to coco, to hydro, and experienced the same thing, that sounds like like environmental condition, or some kind of bug.

I wrote at the beginning that it is strange, but I understand that you need basic data, Well: the height of the lamp above the seedlings was different, from the manufacturer's recommendations to my own tests of the higher / lower type. Temp in the box at night 69F / day 77F, water temperature in DWC 68F, air humidity at night 50%, during the day 38%, but I have a small incubator, so the plants in pots with soil had up to 80% humidity. all these parameters slightly changed with the change of the season, it did not help or hurt anything more, my efforts last 14 months ... imagine that for 14 months of trials you have plants like mine above in the pictures. Someone can laugh at it, I don't think I'm even sorry anymore, I go ahead, I want to overcome it, I have knowledge and I have equipment, but something, some factor, spoils my modest plans. Maybe I have toxic paint on the walls? maybe there is a smell of mortar or cement under the floor? I grab every single idea, pH, soil, water, fertilizers, I have already checked and replaced each one 3 or 4 times.

We really need a "my yellow leaves " section