And you've learned what from repeating the same thing 5 times, with no change in outcome?
Presidential Executive Privilege
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UncleBuck
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UncleBuck
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that you're too much of a pussy to even acknowledge facts that get in the way of your ridiculous and moronic conspiracy theory.
I hardly see how the *fact* that Obama signed one bill, changes the *fact* of his life-long opposition to gun ownership. Since I've already cited the *facts* of his lifetime opposition to the second amendment, the 5-times repeated question has already been rendered *moot*. Which means, irelevant, and worthy of being ignored, nothing more.
UncleBuck
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you couldn't even quote the part of my post where i mention your conspiracy theory being so patently idiotic, such is the level of your confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance.
sad, bro.
canndo
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Well done Truncheon, you managed to avoid the entire beginning of the debate AND avoid both questions - but telling for anyone watching.
My premise is that conservatives are incapable of admitting when they are wrong - thus they manage to create their own subjective reality and by so doing insulate themselves from the universe.
Now I asked two questions - and will ask them again.
1. Why did Obama sign the gun carry law
2. Did Operation Wide Receiver allow fire arms to "walk" across the Mexican Border
Truncheon, rather than simply answer the questions has declared himself the "winner" and taken his bat an ball and gone home. It was, as so often, a run around moving the goal posts, impugning sources, misinterpreting evidence and finally withdrawal. I do comment Truncheon for refraining from insulting me - I had expected that as well. Conservatives, are a sad but pretty predictable lot. I do expect for someone here to cast a broad set of insults upon liberals before too long. Now excuse me, I have to get back to Oprah.
It's not that they're libs, trust me, it's immaturity and ignorance that limits their inability to put up an intelligent argument.
Look at the stark difference between the adolescent drivel of Bucky and abandonconflict, compare that with Canndo, even though I disagree with him, he can hold his own in a debate without acting like a spoiled kid.
Couldn't? That would have been easy. Didn't? That's more like it. There's no purpose in my reprinting your juvenile attempts at taunting.
I'm still waiting to see if you have even the slightest shred of a functioning frontal lobe remaining, or if ranting mindlessly and making empty, baseless claims is the fullness of your intellectual capacity.
UncleBuck
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trickle down works!
canndo
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In short, you have yet to answer the question - he may well be a "life long opponent" of gun ownership, I am simply asking how his signing of a bill he could have as easily refrained from signing (and another I believe making it possible for people to carry firearms on Amtrac Trains I think), comports with your assessment of his monsterous and evil plot to confiscate everyone's weapons.
UncleBuck
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lol, this is just hilarious.
even including the part where i mention your stupid fucking conspiracy theory would cause too much cognitive dissonance for you.
good times with sock puppets.
UncleBuck
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these guys have just got to be paid posters working up a whisper campaign ahead of the 2012 election.
i would rather believe in that theory than the theory that people could be so fucking stupid as truncheon.
Your second source impugned your first source. That's the entire point. Yes, guns got to Mexico under Bush. Not 2,000 guns as the LA Times claimed (your first source which is impugned by me and your second source). And the Bush DOJ immediately shutdown the operation, because guns escaping into Mexico was not part of the plan. Unlike Fast and Furious, where letting the guns go to Mexico was precisely the plan.
You yourself demonstrated that the LA Times is not a good source.
Besides, Rush Limbaugh just stated that this whole thing is about trying to shut down the second amendment. And don't you dare impugn my source...
Oh, yes, of course. We're a bunch of shadowy figures. It's not like this just happens to be the really big news item all over the world, in every paper, and all over the blogs, no, not that. It's not that we're discussing the big news of the day, it's all just shadowy shadows with socks and puppets....
londonfog
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StevenSD420
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wtf? you are seriously mislead by whoever tells you their opinions.
BTW; I'm white, nice try showing racism =) too bad Rastafarians don't believe in racism
StevenSD420
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For some reason I have a feeling only FOXNews would be legit for ya; sorry man I'm at work and my black liberal boss has blocked that web address =D no complaints tho. How about since you're so stern it's not legit; why don't YOU DO THE RESEARCH; I went ahead and provided you one source; your choice to find more; not mine.
canndo
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While I might even agree that there may be whisper camapigns (I encountered one with the Health care bill - fascinating, and it actually worked) I can't imagine such a thing happening in a marijuana growing forum. As far as Truncheon (the screen name is apropriate), he is far from stupid. No, it takes a keen mind to defend one's self with two steps and crawdading. It takes honest intelligence to defend one's convictions to the exclusion of reality. After all, a conservative IS his belief system, for them to change in any significant way would be akin to their lopping off their own arm. I can truely, never figure out why they continue to argue with us (liberals) because I know they have no respect for anyone who might alter their understanding or argument in order to adhere to subjective reality. In fact you see that as a part of their distain for liberals - they are "wishy washy" they "flip flop", they don't stand by their arguments. This is a fundamental difference between conservatives and liberals, liberals are capable if not willing, to adjust their beliefs to suit the universe. No no, Truncheon is not at all stupid, he is wise to keep his very identity from being compromised by admitting he may be mistaken.
JustAnotherHead
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Your source has admitted to forging documents to further an agenda. How is that in anyway valid?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6055248/ns/politics/t/cbs-news-admits-bush-documents-cant-be-verified/
"Source admits fabrication
CBS strongly defended its story. It wasn’t until a week later — after Killian’s former secretary said she believed the memos were fake — that the news division admitted they were questionable."
Justin00
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Isn't that Obama's handwriting? I know he uses that answer a lot but i'm surprised you got a pic of it.
we are like a bunch of blind people arguing about which shade of blue is the best.
none of us have a clue what blue is, we are just doing what the media told us we should.