JustAnotherHead
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He called me a sock puppet yesterday and I've been here for awhile with several hundred smoke/grow reports, etc. They are all batshit crazy and everyone is someone else. LOL
Presidential Executive Privilege
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He called me a sock puppet yesterday and I've been here for awhile with several hundred smoke/grow reports, etc. They are all batshit crazy and everyone is someone else. LOL
Obviously, because you claimed that Human Events accepted the LA Time's claim of "2,000 guns got to Mexico under Bush". When in fact they did not accept that claim, and in fact *refuted* it.
You know, you posted a citation that totally refuted both your claim and the validity of the LA Times in general, while claiming that it supported you....kinda dumb.
UncleBuck
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remember how the right nearly drove us to default over raising the debt ceiling when bush was in office?Let's review the *facts*:
http://citation.allacademic.com//meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/3/9/6/5/2/pages396528/p396528-5.php
"Criticism of fiscal laxity or failure to support tax cuts among Republicans was commonplace in both National Review and The American Spectator before George W. Bush became president.
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In April of 1998, the editorial board of National Review (199told the Republican Congress to “Go Home.” They argued that, “LITTLE or no good will come out of Capitol Hill for the remainder of the year. No tax cuts of any significance. No tax reform. No eliminations of Cabinet-level departments. Probably not even the termination of a single government program...
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Later that year they (199
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They argued that Congressional Republicans wanted to lift the cap to help pass the most expensive highway bill in history and labeled the conspirators as “fiscally reckless.” James Antle III (200
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After only sixteen months in office, conservatives had become worried with Bush’s unwillingness to veto, or even threaten to veto. Byron York (2002) wrote an article in National Review in June of 2002 titled “The Man Who Won’t Veto.” In it he outlined how Bush wouldn’t even threaten a veto to the recently passed farm bill, which sent a message to Congress that he would sign it no matter what was in it.
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Conservatives have chafed at Bush’s willingness to sign all manner of spending bills, but when one’s party controls the Congress, fiscal restraint should be accomplished before the bills pass in the first place. That didn’t happen.
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The editorial board of National Review used research from the conservative Heritage Foundation to point out Bush’s failure on federal spending.THE wave of post-Katrina spending is tipping President Bush’s fiscal record from bad to atrocious. We all know the litany that got us to this point: Bush has never vetoed a bill, even as Congress has agreed to fund an estimated 14,000 pork projects, up from around 1,000 in 1996; he has presided over a federal spending increase of 33 percent since 2001, with 55 percent of the increase in the last two years unrelated to defense, according to Brian Riedl of the Heritage Foundation; and he created a new entitlement, signing a $500 billion (and counting) prescription-drug bill. (National Review, 2005)"
Etc., etc., etc.
Perhaps you should stick to schoolyard trolling, since knowledge of actual reality seems beyond your reach.
Pretty laughable for you to tell Conservatives what they were doing, considering they were the ones actually doing it, and you weren't....
douche.
no one was screaming about it and it wasn't a national issue until obama showed up.
Uh, that's nice. Now, your claim was that nobody on the right was opposing Bush for spending, taxing, and deficits. That claim has now been utterly refuted, and you remain not merely a jerk, but an ignorant jerk.
UncleBuck
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a few righties wrote articles that drifted silently into the night?
LOL!
right on par with nearly driving the government to default.
false equivalence thy name is truncheon!
londonfog
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Dude you're a puppet. Do you really think you are fooling anyone
I'm just wondering who so owned your ass that you had to change your name..I hope you not one of those fools who owe me a signature space.. RIU full of the trolls and puppets..
canndo
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Again, I refuted your exact words. The other points are irrelevent to the specific discussion. OWR did indeed allow guns to walk into Mexico, whether it was ten or 2000 makes no difference - you claimed that no such thing was happening until R&R. Now, about that Obama law?
canndo
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"The liberal prefers not to argue or defend his "positions" at all. They just want to shut anyone up who says things they don't like, or they want to abuse them and call them names, or discredit them, or insult and taunt them." - Truncheon (italics mine)
So far as I know, the word jerk is an insult, perhaps however Uncle Buck thinks otherwise, so it is plain, Truncheon is a liberal.
You didn't refute anything. You claimed that the LA Times article was fact, it wasn't fact. What I wrote was fact. Your citation supported my facts, and contradicted your facts. You are wrong. Bush did not start Fast and Furious, Bush's system was classical law enforcement. As soon as a gun went missing, they shut it down. There were a total of 500 guns, thus there is no way 2,000 guns got to Mexico, as you and the LA Times call "fact".
As I said, when I want facts on this matter, I won't be looking to the LA Times. As your citation proves, they cannot be trusted to tell the truth regarding Obama.
UncleBuck
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must be one of those self-hating liberals.
It is a description. Since I provided both an argument, and citations demonstrating the truth of my argument, in support of my argument, I offered more than *merely* an insult. Try to stay in context.
UncleBuck
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chrishydro
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Turning out to be a pretty good thread.
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UncleBuck
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when a righty insults, it's a description.
when a lefty insults, they just want everyone to shut up.
having your cake and eating it too, i see. double standard identified.
londonfog
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canndo
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Then let us begin again - did OWR involve letting firearms walk into Mexico?
Oh, and.... about that Obama signed law in Fed parks? I believe I've asked 5 times now.
UncleBuck
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stop letting facts get in the way of a good, outlandish conspiracy theory that only a complete moron would believe.
There is no benefit to the victor, to "begin again". So, no, I don't think I will. Do over is for children.
JustAnotherHead
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Silly liberals. Still think cartoons and .gifs qualify as arguments.
londonfog
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