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Psyclops · Tuesday at 4:34 PM

Boatguy said:
If a fetus is going to die why cant it be removed. Must one wait for a dead thing inside them before it is an option?

Who said it was going to die?
We do despite some opinions the best healthcare system in the world.
The taking of a life is murder.

BudmanTX · Tuesday at 4:35 PM

Psyclops said:
No, it is not. I am passed child rearing age.

not your daughter

Psyclops · Tuesday at 4:36 PM

Bad Karma said:
True, but technically, under law, it’s still seen as an abortion.
The removal of a fetus that has not reached the end of its gestation period, dead or alive, is an abortion in many states.

Not true, show me proof of what you claim, I think maybe you are incorrect.

Psyclops · Tuesday at 4:44 PM

BudmanTX said:
not your daughter

As I said, hypothetical questions don't warrant an answer.
My eldest Daughterd mother wanted to abortion her. After this would have been her 4th abortion. I did not know this until after she was pregnant, today that daughter is a mature, well adjusted adult with children of her own.
The killing of a fetus is morally, ethically wrong.
Show me 1 case of a women in the last 20 years, in this country, that saw and took the advice of medical professionals that this happened too?

Boatguy · Tuesday at 4:51 PM

Psyclops said:
As I said, hypothetical questions don't warrant an answer.
My eldest Daughterd mother wanted to abortion her. After this would have been her 4th abortion. I did not know this until after she was pregnant, today that daughter is a mature, well adjusted adult with children of her own.
The killing of a fetus is morally, ethically wrong.
Show me 1 case of a women in the last 20 years, in this country, that saw and took the advice of medical professionals that this happened too?

Easy.

A third woman has died under Texas’ abortion ban as doctors reach for riskier miscarriage treatments

Porsha Ngumezi bled to death as she was miscarrying after her doctor opted against an emergency procedure used to end pregnancies.

www.texastribune.org

Another Texas Woman Died Because of Abortion Ban: Nevaeh Crain - National Abortion Federation

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE November 1, 2024 CONTACT: [email protected] Statement from Brittany Fonteno, President & CEO of the National Abortion Federation Today should be Nevaeh Crain’s 20th birthday. Yet, because of Texas’ cruel abortion ban, today, her mother is forced to mourn her loss, rather...

prochoice.org

Family of Georgia mother who died after delayed abortion care says Amber Thurman should still be alive: "It was preventable"

CBS News' Jericka Duncan spoke to Amber Thurman's family and the ProPublica reporter whose investigation found doctors waited 19 hours before performing surgery on Thurman.

www.cbsnews.com

Psyclops · Tuesday at 5:04 PM

Boatguy said:
Easy.

A third woman has died under Texas’ abortion ban as doctors reach for riskier miscarriage treatments

Porsha Ngumezi bled to death as she was miscarrying after her doctor opted against an emergency procedure used to end pregnancies.

www.texastribune.org

Another Texas Woman Died Because of Abortion Ban: Nevaeh Crain - National Abortion Federation

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE November 1, 2024 CONTACT: [email protected] Statement from Brittany Fonteno, President & CEO of the National Abortion Federation Today should be Nevaeh Crain’s 20th birthday. Yet, because of Texas’ cruel abortion ban, today, her mother is forced to mourn her loss, rather...

prochoice.org

Family of Georgia mother who died after delayed abortion care says Amber Thurman should still be alive: "It was preventable"

CBS News' Jericka Duncan spoke to Amber Thurman's family and the ProPublica reporter whose investigation found doctors waited 19 hours before performing surgery on Thurman.

www.cbsnews.com

The source of the 2nd isn't very reliable as they certainly have an agenda and don't give any info that doesn't meet their agenda.
The 1st and 3rd are cases of Dr.s making mistakes. While tragic not Germaine.

Psyclops · Tuesday at 5:05 PM

I love this how many more in your debate club do I have to debate?

BudmanTX · Tuesday at 5:49 PM

None, iggy..buh bye

doublejj · Tuesday at 6:11 PM

Psyclops said:
Don't like the laws of the state that you live in, move or work to change the local laws, lots of options

so were no longer the "United States"? Some red states might like to revisit slavery is that OK with you?

compassionateExotic · Tuesday at 6:11 PM

doublejj · Tuesday at 6:12 PM

Psyclops said:
Who said it was going to die?
We do despite some opinions the best healthcare system in the world.
The taking of a life is murder.

so you don't believe in capitol punishment....good

doublejj · Tuesday at 6:13 PM

Psyclops said:
I love this how many more in your debate club do I have to debate?

Murdering women by withholding proper medical care = the republican way

Psyclops · Tuesday at 6:15 PM

doublejj said:
so were no longer the "United States"? Some red states might like to revisit slavery is that OK with you?

Unconstitutional and who said we are not in the U.S.

doublejj · Tuesday at 6:16 PM

Psyclops said:
There it is
Murder on demand
How is that healthcare?

That's a DR's and patient decission....not some politician. Please stay out of my bedroom and Dr office. You know "Keep your hands off my body"

Psyclops · Tuesday at 6:18 PM

doublejj said:
so you don't believe in capitol punishment....good

Sure I do, those warrenting death made the conscious decisions to do the things they have done to put Themselves there.

Psyclops · Tuesday at 6:19 PM

doublejj said:
That's a DR's and patient decission....not some politician. Please stay out of my bedroom and Dr office. You know "Keep your hands off my body"

And the unborn child? Who speaks for that life?

Psyclops · Tuesday at 6:21 PM

doublejj said:
Murdering women by withholding proper medical care = the republican way

That is disingenuous at best and foul at worse.

*I feel your anger but it is misplaced. You are sharing your beliefs, I am sharing mine.

doublejj · Tuesday at 6:22 PM

Psyclops said:
Sure I do, those warrenting death made the conscious decisions to do the things they have done to put Themselves there.

So all you pearl clutching about "Taking a life is murder" is just a bunch of BS. OK so you keep 2 sets of books, one for me and one for thee.

doublejj · Tuesday at 6:33 PM

Psyclops said:
Unconstitutional and who said we are not in the U.S.

In book, Romney charges ‘a very large portion of’ the GOP ‘doesn’t believe in the Constitution’
Shortly after Romney announced his retirement, McKay Coppins, a staff writer for the magazine The Atlantic, published the first excerpt of a biography he had begun working on in which the Utah Republican unburdened himself of decades of private thoughts and conversations. “A very large portion of my party,” Romney told Coppins, “really doesn’t believe in the Constitution.”

Romney: 'Large portion' of GOP ‘doesn’t believe in the Constitution’

American democracy “is fighting human nature," Romney said.

ny1.com

Psyclops · Tuesday at 6:35 PM

doublejj said:
So all you pearl clutching about "Taking a life is murder" is just a bunch of BS. OK so you keep 2 sets of books, one for me and one for thee.

No, a unborn human child did nothing to deserve death. I am able to separate the 2 because they are 2 totally different circumstances

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