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Apalchen

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I’ve been dealing with either hops latent viroid or root aphids I’m actually hoping it’s aphids I can eventually get rid of those. That being said I really doubt you are able to tell this early and wouldn’t be concerned about it if I only had a few plants. Grow them out and see you will still get decent bud just about 80% of what you would have and not quite as strong.


I have a pretty big mother selection so I’m gonna send off samples for testing but I’m almost certain one of my favorite strains has it, and it’s a 5k process to get it back clean. I could buy more seeds but I feel like that would be like making babies looking for the same one it’s not likely to happen even with 100 tries.
 
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catdaddy516

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Herb & Suds said:
Newbs are always sure their plants are slow or diseased
First it was Septoria and now dudding

chances are they have neither 99% of the time
To much internet growing and not enough acceptance their skills need time
It isn’t an overnight thing to gain a green thumb :weed:
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Lol.
Who the fuck said I was a newbie, lame? I swear a lot of you dudes on here be bitches and weirdos on the low; making little catty remarks every chance you get. As if someone gives a fuck enough to care about what you think. Don't get me wrong, if you're here to be "HELPFUL" it's appreciated. But if not, get the fuck out of here LAME.

drsaltzman said:
I’m all for science but sometimes I can’t help but think if you look hard enough to find something you’ll find something.
All of the symptoms listed for “dudding” happen every day in cannabis from environmental and genetic reasons. Plus grower error. Put me down as one who has never seen a plant “dud” from a virus. And 35% of plants? I’m skeptical.

The reason I said raise the lights a little is if they’re too intense, young plants grow shorter, with tighter nodes.
They also shy away from the intensity like any living thing will do. The lights should be positioned as such so that the plants grow to them, not away from them.
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I figured as much, that's what made me ask. However, I never mentioned anything about node spacing. What I mentioned was secondary nodes shooting up almost as much as tops: something that dudded plants have been known to do.

Thanks for chiming in.

twentyeight.threefive said:
How would you know one was a dud without knowing what the parent looked like? I don't see any issues to be concerned about.
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I believe someone answered your question already. Thanks for chiming in.
 
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catdaddy516

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MyBallzItch said:
There are ways. If you look in the strainly thread there are pictures and people describing it based on weak brittle stems and lack of frost amongst other things.

OP if the branching is strong and thick and not weak and spindly it's most likely because it's a clone. Healthy clones can seem to have more branching than running from seed because technically the clones are already "mature"
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Thanks for chiming in on the matter, daddio.

Dank Bongula said:
Nothing looks wrong with those plants. Stop looking for problems. Are they all clones off the same mother or do they come from different mothers? If they come from different mothers that could easily explain the differences in branching.
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Thanks. It's just been a long while since my last go around and I'm just trying to be alert as much as possible.
 
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catdaddy516

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MyBallzItch said:
Lol you don't need pictures of the mother plant. There are characteristics associated with the virus.

Is that clear enough for you
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I believe you, because I've seen enough threads where people could spot it just by looking at pics because of the experience they've had battling the disease themselves.

Apalchen said:
I’ve been dealing with either hops latent viroid or root aphids I’m actually hoping it’s aphids I can eventually get rid of those. That being said I really doubt you are able to tell this early and wouldn’t be concerned about it if I only had a few plants. Grow them out and see you will still get decent bud just about 80% of what you would have and not quite as strong.


I have a pretty big mother selection so I’m gonna send off samples for testing but I’m almost certain one of my favorite strains has it, and it’s a 5k process to get it back clean. I could buy more seeds but I feel like that would be like making babies looking for the same one it’s not likely to happen even with 100 tries.
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Damn, I feel for you. I hope all goes your way and definitely post back up when you figure it out.
 
MyBallzItch

MyBallzItch

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twentyeight.threefive said:
How would you be able to tell the difference between a bad pheno, grower error, and the virus? You're just that good huh?
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Man wtf are you smoking? I never said anything about me but if I grew a verified ecsd clone and grew it under normal conditions and it was small buds with no frost and weak branching I might send in a sample to have it tested.

I'm not sure how someone would suspect dudding from seed for the reasons you state but if you're getting a clone and know what you're looking for, you can definitely spot it. I mentioned the strainly thread because the clone vendors have been the ones passing this around like hotcakes. Hope you have a good rest of your evening/day my friend
 
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twentyeight.threefive

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MyBallzItch said:
I'm not sure how someone would suspect dudding from seed for the reasons you state but if you're getting a clone and know what you're looking for, you can definitely spot it.
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Man wtf are you smoking?

I never said anything about seed, unless you meant my pheno comment. You're most likely talking about getting a clone from an unknown source. I don't trust anything from people I don't personally know.
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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catdaddy516 said:
Lol.
Who the fuck said I was a newbie, lame? I swear a lot of you dudes on here be bitches and weirdos on the low; making little catty remarks every chance you get. As if someone gives a fuck enough to care about what you think. Don't get me wrong, if you're here to be "HELPFUL" it's appreciated. But if not, get the fuck out of here LAME.


I figured as much, that's what made me ask. However, I never men
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Welcome to RIU
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Btw Douche from the Thc farmer says what :weed::finger:
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Dudding is the new TMV.

I predicted this. Post #222

HpLVd, information, Vendors, Testing and Reviews

And there’s no known “cure” except isolating and re growing the plant via tissue culture? So it’s all 100% about prevention at this point. I saw some post in an article about soaking a cutting in fungicide will kill it. One of their examples was oxi something so might be possible to kill it
www.rollitup.org
 
Tangerine_

Tangerine_

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catdaddy516 said:
Lol.
Who the fuck said I was a newbie, lame? I swear a lot of you dudes on here be bitches and weirdos on the low; making little catty remarks every chance you get. As if someone gives a fuck enough to care about what you think. Don't get me wrong, if you're here to be "HELPFUL" it's appreciated. But if not, get the fuck out of here LAME.


I figured as much, that's what made me ask. However, I never mentioned anything about node spacing. What I mentioned was secondary nodes shooting up almost as much as tops: something that dudded plants have been known to do.

Thanks for chiming in.


I believe someone answered your question already. Thanks for chiming in.
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OP, that plant doesnt look symptomatic. The excessive branching refers to "witches broom" expressions.

Small fans, brittle weak stems, poor root health are a few things to look out for in veg.
In flower, its much more pronounced.

If you sourced this clone from an unknown vendor or even someone you do know, just get it tested and leave it in quarantine while you await the results. If you take clones from her, clean your tools with a bleach solution. You do NOT want this to spread to other plants. I dont think you have anything to worry about but better safe than sorry.
Good luck
 
sunsetdaydreamer

sunsetdaydreamer

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Tangerine_ said:
For some reason, unbeknownst to me, when this subject comes up Dunning Kruger takes over and any useful data is lost in a sea of warped toxic flexing.

What a shame.
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It does.. Its kinda weird. Every time hplvd is mentioned, a lot of denials and conspiracy takes over. It's like you come online to share a real issue then people fight you to tell you it's not real.

It's almost like people are living in a bubble of belief and anything new they don't understand is immediately rejected. Pure ignorance and it's finest.
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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sunsetdaydreamer said:
It does.. Its kinda weird. Every time hplvd is mentioned, a lot of denials and conspiracy takes over. It's like you come online to share a real issue then people fight you to tell you it's not real.

It's almost like people are living in a bubble of belief and anything new they don't understand is immediately rejected. Pure ignorance and it's finest.
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And every time it is mentioned you show up claiming the sky is falling :wall:
 
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catdaddy516

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Herb & Suds said:
Welcome to RIU
Latest sock
Btw Douche from the Thc farmer says what :weed::finger:
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LOL.
Another lame attempt for some of my attention and I see you bring groupies with you too. Clowns to say the least. But hey, if the noses and shoes fit somebody has to wear them and who better than y’all.

And there’s no need for any welcoming service. If I required or needed such service, I would’ve introduced myself upon my arrival. So please save that shit for the ones that seeks and needs your approval.

Oh yeah, Douche said to keep his name and dick out y’all’s mouth! His words not mines.

To: my BIGGEST fan
From: 2 fucks giving.
 
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catdaddy516

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Tangerine_ said:
OP, that plant doesnt look symptomatic. The excessive branching refers to "witches broom" expressions.

Small fans, brittle weak stems, poor root health are a few things to look out for in veg.
In flower, its much more pronounced.

If you sourced this clone from an unknown vendor or even someone you do know, just get it tested and leave it in quarantine while you await the results. If you take clones from her, clean your tools with a bleach solution. You do NOT want this to spread to other plants. I dont think you have anything to worry about but better safe than sorry.
Good luck
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Thanks for chiming in and some reassurance. It's definitely appreciated.

xtsho said:
Dudding is the new TMV.

I predicted this. Post #222

HpLVd, information, Vendors, Testing and Reviews

And there’s no known “cure” except isolating and re growing the plant via tissue culture? So it’s all 100% about prevention at this point. I saw some post in an article about soaking a cutting in fungicide will kill it. One of their examples was oxi something so might be possible to kill it
www.rollitup.org
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Thanks daddio for your contribution. It's also appreciated.
 
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catdaddy516

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MyBallzItch said:
Man wtf are you smoking? I never said anything about me but if I grew a verified ecsd clone and grew it under normal conditions and it was small buds with no frost and weak branching I might send in a sample to have it tested.

I'm not sure how someone would suspect dudding from seed for the reasons you state but if you're getting a clone and know what you're looking for, you can definitely spot it. I mentioned the strainly thread because the clone vendors have been the ones passing this around like hotcakes. Hope you have a good rest of your evening/day my friend
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sunsetdaydreamer said:
It does.. Its kinda weird. Every time hplvd is mentioned, a lot of denials and conspiracy takes over. It's like you come online to share a real issue then people fight you to tell you it's not real.

It's almost like people are living in a bubble of belief and anything new they don't understand is immediately rejected. Pure ignorance and it's finest.
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Tangerine_ said:
For some reason, unbeknownst to me, when this subject comes up Dunning Kruger takes over and any useful data is lost in a sea of warped toxic flexing.

What a shame.
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Lol. Don't even stress yourself trying to explain the obvious. These clowns be acting as if because they didn't or have yet to see or experience it themselves, that it didn't happen or ever existed. Let them tell it, everyone's experience are all false and imaginary.
 
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