Political Satire and Censorship

I am disappointed to see a thread has been removed!! The thread https://www.rollitup.org/politics/277941-conservative-comedians.html, is nowhere to be found.
Not that it was an especially enlightening thread or was jammed full of mind changing facts. It was funny, I believe political satire should be.
The photo shopped image of Dennis Miller was tasteless, yes, but funny. It conveyed Dennis’s change from his liberal, SNL, views to his post 9/11 conservative views.


From something like this you may get a liberal response of “Dat stuff dare is some funny stuff” and a conservative response of ”This is an outrage!! Everyone knows Dennis doesn’t even own a ring like that!!”

I also posted a little skit, (if you will) about a conversation between 4 people, in that thread. Some people thought it was funny. Some people thought it was a statement about my views on a whole political ideology. I just thought it was a funny way to point out, no matter what, some people will not change their point of view, and speaking with them is like beating a dead horse. Change the character names, it still says the same thing !!

Some people, right or left, are bullheaded and narrow minded. I don’t condone racist or hatred of any kind. I do attempt to share my views with facts, satire, and at times a bit of sarcasm. If you disagree with me, reply, I enjoy this stuff.

redivider said:

no shit sherlock!!

it's a pot site, not a politics site.....

what do you want?? a medal??

have this instead:

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redivider said:

kiss-ass

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SmokeyMcChokey said:

because you have had 86 posts worth of conversation. If you have something worthwhile to post then post it. if your not interested in hearing the biccering masses of the politics forum dont frequent it or better yet go ahead and find the posters that you disagree with or dislike and hit the ignore button. its really simple buddy. BTW this isnt a polisci forum. This is a pot growers forim would you expect a coherent discussion of ganja farming on the New york time forum or would it be a bunch of yuppies calling you a stoner hippie?

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kronic1989 said:

Lol, I bet having a conversation with you is like talking to a wookie. You dont understand shit.

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kronic1989 said:

I correct myself, your right up there with abe23.

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Dreadscale said:

Thanks kronic1989, thats what you mom said too!!!!


I couldn't help myself

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You can’t make this stuff up!!!

I’m not sure why https://www.rollitup.org/politics/277941-conservative-comedians.html
was removed, but political satire is a part of politics. Since Ben Franklin used the snake cut into 13 pieces it has been used here in the states, or maybe before that.

I don’t believe ideas should be censored or banned, but I don’t run things.

As far as conservative comedians go I can think of 2. The reining king Dennis Miller and Nick Dipalo. Tons of conservative comedian jokes, but only 2 comedians unless you count Steven Cobert.

GET IT? Steven Cobert!!!

Dreadscale said:

As far as conservative comedians go I can think of 2. The reining king Dennis Miller and Nick Dipalo. Tons of conservative comedian jokes, but only 2 comedians unless you count Steven Cobert.

GET IT? Steven Cobert!!!

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lmao! dennis miller is a self deluding propaganda dispensing draft dodger.

I believe this speaks for itself!!!

Censorship is done by governments. A privately owned website exercising control over its content is not censorship.

Illegal Smile said:

Censorship is done by governments. A privately owned website exercising control over its content is not censorship.

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censorhip is not limited to government it can be done by anyone of authority whether or not they own the website it still is censorship of views they disagree with

now whether or not they were justified is a different argument

Dreadscale said:

.........I’m not sure why https://www.rollitup.org/politics/277941-conservative-comedians.html
was removed, but political satire is a part of politics.
I don’t believe ideas should be censored or banned, but I don’t run things............

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Illegal Smile said:

Censorship is done by governments. A privately owned website exercising control over its content is not censorship.

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A privately owned website exercising control over its content is the exact meaning of censorship.
According to the 1st ammendment, our Government can not censor our expression of ideas.

ginjawarrior said:

censorhip is not limited to government it can be done by anyone of authority whether or not they own the website it still is censorship of views they disagree with

now whether or not they were justified is a different argument

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Well Stated!!!

This would have been the perfect place to interject a bit of political satire!!!

"A privately owned website exercising control over its content is the exact meaning of censorship.
According to the 1st ammendment, our Government can not censor our expression of ideas."

These two sentences are contradictory. The first amendment, as you say, applies to government which may not restrict speech. How can anyone possibly say that a private website is exercising censorship? RIU then, exercises censorship evey day. So do all the other websites with posting rules. Exactly what law do you think they are breaking?

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i see i was quoted.... well the guy starts a thread on a pot site saying that he finds it annoying that a bunch of potheads don't really make sense when talking politics.... NO SHIT SHERLOCK, was the first thing to come to my mind...

yeah, that thread was pretty funny, couldn't follow it until the end though....

and no, it's not censorship if you agree to the terms and conditions....

Illegal Smile said:

"A privately owned website exercising control over its content is the exact meaning of censorship.
According to the 1st ammendment, our Government can not censor our expression of ideas."

These two sentences are contradictory. The first amendment, as you say, applies to government which may not restrict speech. How can anyone possibly say that a private website is exercising censorship? RIU then, exercises censorship evey day. So do all the other websites with posting rules. Exactly what law do you think they are breaking?

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no offense dude,
but really?

censorship is not a legal term - it does not imply anything, legally

i mean really, just do a wiki search or something

can't anybody be right, about anything, except you?

jeffchr said:

no offense dude,
but really?

censorship is not a legal term - it does not imply anything, legally

i mean really, just do a wiki search or something

can't anybody be right, about anything, except you?

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You can use the term to mean anything you want, much like you misuse other terms. But it is foolish and stupid to say that a private website controlling its content is anything like censorship.

Illegal Smile said:

You can use the term to mean anything you want, much like you misuse other terms. But it is foolish and stupid to say that a private website controlling its content is anything like censorship.

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yea, right, sure, sure thing, OK, you got it, right on, dead on, no deny'n it, for sure, no doubt, no doubt about it, got me there, alright then

Illegal Smile said:

"A privately owned website exercising control over its content is the exact meaning of censorship.
According to the 1st ammendment, our Government can not censor our expression of ideas."

These two sentences are contradictory. The first amendment, as you say, applies to government which may not restrict speech. How can anyone possibly say that a private website is exercising censorship? RIU then, exercises censorship evey day. So do all the other websites with posting rules. Exactly what law do you think they are breaking?

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These two sentences are contradictory. WRONG!!! One states private sites CAN CENSOR, the other states the GOVERNMENT CAN NOT!!!!!

The first amendment, as you say, applies to government which may not restrict speech.
Not as I say as the constitution says!!
First Amendment :
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
How can anyone possibly say that a private website is exercising censorship? RIU then, exercises censorship evey day. So do all the other websites with posting rules.
A private web site excercises censorship when they remove or edit, threads or posts.
That is what the Admin, and the Moderators do, that is their job.
No Big Deal.
Exactly what law do you think they are breaking?
NONE!!!

redivider said:

i see i was quoted.... well the guy starts a thread on a pot site saying that he finds it annoying that a bunch of potheads don't really make sense when talking politics.... NO SHIT SHERLOCK, was the first thing to come to my mind...

yeah, that thread was pretty funny, couldn't follow it until the end though....

and no, it's not censorship if you agree to the terms and conditions....

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No disrespect intended in quoting you!! It fit well into the point I was attempting to make. I thought it was GREAT!!!

It is still censorship even if you agree to be censored. In terms and conditions you agree not to post stuff that will need censoring. You and the Mod. may disagree on the content so he has the right to remove it if it is deemed inappropriate.

Illegal Smile said:

You can use the term to mean anything you want, much like you misuse other terms. But it is foolish and stupid to say that a private website controlling its content is anything like censorship.

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cen·sor (s n s r)
n. 1. A person authorized to examine books, films, or other material and to remove or suppress what is considered morally, politically, or otherwise objectionable.
2. An official, as in the armed forces, who examines personal mail and official dispatches to remove information considered secret or a risk to security.
3. One that condemns or censures.
4. One of two officials in ancient Rome responsible for taking the public census and supervising public behavior and morals.
5. Psychology The agent in the unconscious that is responsible for censorship.

tr.v. cen·sored, cen·sor·ing, cen·sors To examine and expurgate.

censor definition
cen·sor (sen′sər)
noun
1 . one of two magistrates in ancient Rome appointed to take the census and, later, to supervise public morals
2 . an official with the power to examine publications, movies, television programs, etc. and to remove or prohibit anything considered obscene, libelous, politically objectionable, etc.
3 . an official in time of war who reads publications, mail, etc. to remove information that might be useful to the enemy
4 . in earlier psychoanalytic theory, and still popularly, a part of the unconscious that serves as the agent of censorship

Etymology: L < censere, to tax, value, judge < IE base *&#57457;ens, speak solemnly, announce > Sans &#7777;á&#7745;sa, praise, prayer of praise

transitive verb
to subject (a book, writer, etc.) to censorship

WHO LOOKS FOOLISH NOW?

Dreadscale said:

WHO LOOKS FOOLISH NOW?

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same dude who always looks foolish

dude, a thread that was created by a user that has been banned multiple times, it has nothing to do with the content of the post


it has to do with that user is no longer allowed to contribute to rollitup

so his account was banned, and his threads deleted


plus, since this website is OWNED, they can delete whatever they want

Dreadscale said:

As far as conservative comedians go I can think of 2. The reining king Dennis Miller and Nick Dipalo. Tons of conservative comedian jokes, but only 2 comedians unless you count Steven Cobert.

GET IT? Steven Cobert!!!

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therez conservative comedianz they just suck n thyr not funny. conservaitvez have no sense of humor n they jus have lil pea brainz so itz really not their fault they waz born jus dipshitz.