panhead
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Cops are no better , they do what they want no matter weather its right or wrong with no thought of the true intent of their state laws , & we pay their sorry asses to twist the laws where their the gestapo , cops dont sound too different than your definition of a criminal .Yes I agree with you, I don't agree with a ton of laws, I mean a ton and I break them all the time I just think we need some type of law to keep most people doing their best to stay out of jail and and keeps things some what decent. All though true criminals don't care and do whatever anyway.
Laws are not the issue or the intent of this discussion , ofcourse we need laws its the proper enforcement of the law that is in question .
Im glad you mentioned the 70's period , America is brainwashed where the 1960's were supposed to be this magic era in American history when in reality it was an era of extreme police misconduct .Wow,
That is one of the most poignant and moving posts that I have yet read here on RIU.
Well done, Good Sir!
What is most interesting to me is that although we are similar in age, my experience with Johnny Law is almost the polar opposite of yours.
I have never been arrested.
The only time I ever had a police gun in my face was for a good reason;
I lived in a condo in which one of the residents shot his wife in the chest with a .357, she survived to crawl out to the lobby of the building. Upon seeing her I ran up to my fifth floor condo to call 911 (1980's b4 cellphones), when I ran back downstairs there was a cop with a gun pointing at my face...he thought that I could have been the perp at the time. This was understandable, he did not shoot me! And amazingly the poor woman survived her injury. Her husband subsequently shot himself in the head...fatal!
I had a ponytail for most of the 1970's...my interaction with cops never amounted to anything.
I have been growing weed since about 1970...never a run in with the local Gestapo.
However, my views regarding the scumbag, jackbooted thugs we refer to as the Police are strikingly similar to yours. Go figure!
Peace.
Wavels
I grew up in a predominantly black area of Detroit known as the Cass ave Corridor, my dad bought his 1st home there because it was beautiful & cheaper than white areas ,durring the riots in the 60's i was at ground zero everyday & saw police beat protesters half to death , i saw people get attacked by 120 lb german Sheppards that do 3x the damage as a pit bull , i saw cops tear gas anybody & everybody , i was maybe 12 yrs old so i didnt get the beatings but i did get sprayed with a water cannon where the pressure was so high it feels like boiling water , the 60's for me was a time where i started hating police .
Then the 70's came & change was happening everywhere including my neighborhood, police were acting nice twords black & white people , even hippys like you & me , i had not had a haircut since i was 10 so my hair was waist length & nobody cared , i got caught with drugs & just had to pour them on the ground , one time i was busted right after scoring a large supply where i had an oz of prerolled $1 joints , a full sheet of blotter acid & a log of opium , enough to get me 20 yrs nowdays but i just had to give it to the cops & they let me go , i had cops help me change a tire in the 70's & i cant remember ever showing ID to a cop , i really thought change & equality was happening in the 70's & would get better as time went by , i was horribly wrong .
My 1st real bust was for Manufacturing a controled substance ( growing mj ) where i did 2 yrs , when i came out cops had adapted a new approach where everybody was ID'd & searched , pulled over without cause & you went to jail for anything no matter how small , the progress leo made in the 70's was replaced with agressive public interaction .
My 2nd felony conviction & prison sentence was for Attempted Murder & i got a 15 to life sentence, the appellate court overturned my conviction & found me guilty of Strong Arm Robbery & i did 2.5 yrs on that , even though my violent crime was to beat the hell outta the guy who mugged my wife & me at gunpoint i couldnt get the sentence reduced further or expunged from my record because i took his gun & robbed him after beating him down .
When i got out the 2nd time i found cops called the Big 4 who were just looking for an excuse to fuck you up , they used my convictions as the reason to pull us over in the incident involving my wife & mother where i was stomped so bad they broke bones & got resisting arrest charge that nearly violated my parole & woulda sent me back to prison .
Since i took that muggers 25 cal when i thrashed him my origional conviction included firearms charges that got thrown out , that matters not to police , once charged it follows you the rest of your life , now when cops read my plates it comes back as Violent offender , possibly armed , approach with extreme caution , thats the excuse they need to draw weapons at every confrontation , its also their excuse for use of force in restraining me , if i get pulled over for a broken tail light its at gunpoint where im held until the back up arrives , then its out of the car & on my belly then a cop gives me the knee to the back even though i or my wife ends up pleading with them that my backs been broken & has steel rods in it , no matter i still get the hard take down .
Then im " Detained for the cops saftey " until they run my name thru the national database where i come up as a known associate of organized crime because my brother belongs to the Outlaws Mc , this gives reason for my wife to be detained & her & the car searched as well , most times i wait an hour or longer while the drug dog goes over the car , then i get a fix it ticket & get released .
My wife has a Concealed weapon permit & they use it as a reason to pull us over as well , their excuse is to make sure she isnt violating the law where i have no access to her weapons .
Ive been pulled over before at our place in Bloomfield Hills as i was pulling in my driveway while riding my Panhead , reason given was an ID check to make sure i lived at the property , deciphered as wtf is a piece of shit like me doing in a neighborhood with multi million dollar homes , we have an automatic gate at the driveway where a garage door opener opens the gate , as they drove on my property the gate started closing automatically & damaged their car , the cops used that as a reason to charge me with Fleeing & eluding Arrest & Willful destruction of state property , the real ball breaker was they also charged me with attempted assault on a police officer cause the iron gate could of hurt them , needless to say i was arrested & my bike impounded even though they never hit their lights initiating a traffic stop & is how i beat the charges .
That episode cost me thousands in legal fees & another 3 grand having our front gate rebuilt , all over me looking out of place .
The whole point of my post was to comment on your remark about how you looked in the 70's , which imo was the best time in America for police interaction with the pubilc & to point out the reasons why we are targeted by police so heavily , i have not commited a felony in nearly 40 yrs yet they still use my past as a reason to profile me & their dept heads allways back their decision.
I wish these kids here had a chance to interact with a neighborhood foot patrol cop from 1975 , they'd shit at how friendly they were & where they'd stop just to chat & be friendly , they dont know there was something better yrs back so most just accept what we know have for police , then anoint blame on me for having felony convictions or a brother in a bike club , the citizen must have done something wrong is the attitude most have & it makes me sad .