* Please Help! Blue Dream Approaching Week 8 of Flower within 24 hrs Plant Problem..*

I have a flowering blue dream plant today is day 56 of flower since i switched to the 12/12. I have been feeding Botanicare Pro Bloom Soil, Liquid Karma and CalMag at half dose since transition from veg and flushing with water between feedings (feed at beginning of week/flush at mid-week).

I am a week or so from switching to flush and subsequent harvest.

Almost a week ago I noticed what I believe were one or two fungus gnats so I bought some mosquito bits and sprinkled a little over the surface of the soil and flushed with plain water. It has been almost a week so today was time to feed I open the cabinet and i see that many of the leaves have severely drooped. I have provided pictures of the blue dream 2 weeks ago along with a couple days ago and pictures with the problem. I decided to give them a reduced feeding today to see if I notice any change in the leaves. Does anybody know what could be wrong or what I can do? Does it look like it can be root rot? Should I harvest since I am this close to finishing? I am not sure what to do but I know that the more time that passes by either the situation will get better or worse and I want to take the best action..

This was the blue dream plant two weeks ago:


This was the blue dream plant 48 hours ago:

These next four pictures are the blue dream plant today, the last picture show the portion of the plant below the scrog which is more green:





Does anybody know what the problem might be? This is my first grow so I am not sure if this is normal or not... I have a Fire OG plant right next to it that looks great (picture below)! Not sure what could have went wrong in the last 24-48 hours with my blue dream especially since it is this close to harvest... I would hate for all this hard work to go down the drain..

I'm thinking its heat stress because it looks similar to a lot of heat stress threads but i'm not sure...I plucked the severely damaged fan leaves in order to prevent any kind of mold... Not sure if I did the right thing but I am thinking of starting the 7-14 day flush in 3-4 days and harvest thereafter since i'm already in week 8 of flower

Flushing is debatable unless there's a toxicity issue. Get a 60x microscope, and go with what the trichs tell you.

i think your ph is off. you should test that with a probe or run off. if you dont have one you can get a cheap water strip from a pet store for fish tanks or a pool ph test.

Leaves are obviously supposed to droop in an annual plant. It's not a fucking evergreen dude.

Looks like the plant is in shock, do you know the temperature of your grow room? Is it humid? Your missing one thing it looks like to me is a fan, if ur blue dream gets worse and the leaves start to die I would do an emergency harvest because she's not looking to good in those pics

ProdigalSun said:

Flushing is debatable unless there's a toxicity issue. Get a 60x microscope, and go with what the trichs tell you.

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I am using Botanicare Nutes: Pro Bloom Soil, Liquid Karma and CalMag+ (the last week before chop down is supposed to be flushed, not to drown the plant necessarily but to feed only water for last 1 - 2 weeks so the plant starts using the resources in its fan leaves I believe). I have gone several places looking for a 30x or 60x microscope and I cannot seem to find a store that carries it... I may have to order online but by the time I receive it the plant could be dead..

Is it thirsty? I mean Check radio shack for a microscope. Or get one online.

jfart said:

i think your ph is off. you should test that with a probe or run off. if you dont have one you can get a cheap water strip from a pet store for fish tanks or a pool ph test.

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I always test my pH (using pH drops) before I feed or water and I always make sure the indicator is piss yellow indicating a safe level pH for the plants.

I did check my High/Low on my Thermometer though and it said the high was at one point in the last 24 hrs at 95F which has never happened in the entire flower period which is why I believe it is heat stress... the buds look okay however just a little small, its just a lot of the fan leaves have shriveled and look crispy. I am about 1 hour away from the beginning of my day period I can't wait to take a peek and check their status. I have a Fire OG plant (see picture below) that is flourishing in the same cabinet and same conditions (closer to the fan) and luckily I didn't take a hit there because that is my best yielding plant.


(FIRE OG PLANT RIGHT NEXT TO BLUE DREAM)

KushMastuhh said:

Leaves are obviously supposed to droop in an annual plant. It's not a fucking evergreen dude.

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I agree that they are supposed to droop but this does not look like a healthy droop. It looks like something is sucked the life out of the plant.

PeaceLoveCannabis said:

Is it thirsty? I mean Check radio shack for a microscope. Or get one online.

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I figured it was thirsty since it was the longest period it had gone without a water, I was trying to dry up the soil a little more than I usually do because of the suspected case of Fungus Gnats (I've only seen a couple of these gnats - Which I'm treating with Mosquito Bits). I'm guessing the lack of water for 1 - 2 more days than usual coupled with the random 95F temperature spike which has never happened because I monitor the high's and low's daily may have heat stressed the plant quite a bit. I am looking forward to my day period which starts in less than an hour to check on their status I will post new pics soon...

By the way good lookin on the Radio Shack: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2179604 I am about to go grab one right now!

sk8er1695 said:

I may have to order online but by the time I receive it the plant could be dead..

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Unless this is the last plant you will ever grow, get one anyhow. 15$ give or take, and overnight the thing.

ProdigalSun said:

Unless this is the last plant you will ever grow, get one anyhow. 15$ give or take, and overnight the thing.

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Found a store that has one of these in stock: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2179604 Gonna go grab it now.

I had one of those, you'll love it.

UPDATE: I got the 60-100x magnifier and I can see that my plants still have quite a bit of clear trichomes. The Blue Dream looks minutely better but I would say the damage has already been done as you can see from the new pics I am posting below...

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Most of the fan leaves toward the upper half of the plant are pretty much either dried out or just about dried out but surprisingly the flowers seem pretty intact although with most of the fan leaves pretty much dry I cannot see much more growth happening or am I wrong? I am thinking another week or two and I should harvest unless somebody recommends otherwise. I am planning to start my 7-14 days of plain water only next week and then chop the blue dream down... Is it safe for me to pluck all the dried fan leaves off and throw them away or are they still beneficial in some strange way? The stems of the dried fan leaves do not look to be dry but the fan leaves pretty much are.

Also my Fire OG plant which weathered the storm is looking good (pics below)... I am planning to give it another week or so and then switch to plan water for 1 - 2 weeks and chop that one down... this plant look like it did not suffer from the heat stress (I am happy that I grew two plants my first time in the event that I made a mistake like I made with the Blue Dream - its amazing how one tiny mistake can make such a huge impact... Lesson Learned!)



Being that this is my first grow... I am looking for suggestions and advice on how to finish this grow and save what I can. I am grateful for any input anyone can provide me in these last few weeks of flower before I harvest...

One big question in my head is with my 60x magnifier when I see a good mixture of clear, cloudy and amber trichomes does that signal its time to switch to plain water and harvest in one to two weeks or does it mean that my plant is done and it is time to chop and hang dry? Thanks for visiting my post and for your help everyone!

You are only testing what's going in? You don't check your run off?

Check your runoff. Seems to me that it's pH + heat. 2 weeks ago, your leaves were starting to cup. 48 hours ago they were even worse. Now they are nearing the unrecoverable point.
The plant will recover, the leaves won't.

Make sure your run-off is 6.3-6.8(soil pH).

Man I was just looking at before and after pics and that heat really messed up my plant


Blue Dream before the heat damage.

SxIstew said:

You are only testing what's going in? You don't check your run off?

Check your runoff. Seems to me that it's pH + heat. 2 weeks ago, your leaves were starting to cup. 48 hours ago they were even worse. Now they are nearing the unrecoverable point.
The plant will recover, the leaves won't.

Make sure your run-off is 6.3-6.8(soil pH).

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Thanks for your input Sxlstew. Should I wait till next watering to test runoff since I did the last scheduled feed yesterday or should I water with plain water right now until I have runoff and test that runoff?

Also since you say the plant will recover and the leaves wont should I pluck the damaged/dried leaves or just leave them? I plucked a few yesterday which were dry but they didn't just pull off like other dead leaves have on my plant these ones although the fan leaf is dry you have to literally dig your finger nail into the stem to clip it off, not sure if its better to leave it there or take them all off... I fear that if I leave them I might run into issues with mold but I have my cabinet wide open right now with a fan set on breeze pointed at my cabinet to make sure I don't risk any overheating issues again.

Another thing is on the Blue Dream plant most fan leaves above my scrog are either dried out or yellow and everything below my scrog looks fresh and green...

Leave the leaves. as they DIE and almost fall you can pluck them. Leaves(dying or alive) still help the plant utilize nutrients available in the soil.
Don't water it right now. wait till the next scheduled feed. this way you are not flushing the soil and getting an "Off reading".

Dry leaves won't cause mold. they are dry. the leaf stem will snap off at the stalk or branch once dead. the leaf stems turn yellowish on BD right before they fall off themselves.. (I have been running it for almost a year now)

once you know the runoff pH you will know if it was ONLY heat or not.
Good Luck
Stew