Plant seems to be slow maturing?

BushWookie

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I have this either lemon haze or lemon kush (I stupidly labelled 2 bags lemon over a period of time) and it is just taking forever to finish flowering, everytime I think she's getting close it's as though she spits out a thousand new hairs. I need to get her in soon with weather conditions turning to ass pretty quickly I'm getting worried about mold and bud rot.

Hasn't been given any nutrients for over 3 weeks now, just flushed with pH'ed water. I really don't want to let this girl go longer than a week more but it's looked like this for 2 weeks now, she just keeps swelling, spitting out white hairs, turning brown and repeating.

How long do you guys think is left in this girl?
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Edit: This plant is now in week 13 of flower, but was shaded by my 6ft tall/round exodus cheese a bit.
 
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Blent

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Those trichs look cloudy from here, some strains will push fresh pistles until end. I agree it does look a bit confusing.
Best to go off trichome conditions though and if it has any density to the nugs I'd say she's cooked. It does look like a prime nug for rot, and if the conditions outside are forecast to be humid and rainy for the foreseeable future then I'd say go with your gut and begin the harvest/ end stage.
 

Thundercat

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Lol sorry to disappoint but that plant definitely has roughly 3-4 weeks left. Heavy sativas can take a very long to to mature properly. I've ran plants for 14+ weeks of actual flowerin time before and they could have used more time to mature still.

Chopping plants early is the number one new grower mistake.

While there are some strains that will throw a few white stigma all the way to harvest, that is not common. MOST strains mature pretty similarly, just on their own time frame. Stigma will redden and receed BEFORE you should ever look at the trichomes.

People put WAAAY to much emphasis on trichomes and not enough on the whole plant.
 

BushWookie

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Lol sorry to disappoint but that plant definitely has roughly 3-4 weeks left. Heavy sativas can take a very long to to mature properly. I've ran plants for 14+ weeks of actual flowerin time before and they could have used more time to mature still.

Chopping plants early is the number one new grower mistake.

While there are some strains that will throw a few white stigma all the way to harvest, that is not common. MOST strains mature pretty similarly, just on their own time frame. Stigma will redden and receed BEFORE you should ever look at the trichomes.

People put WAAAY to much emphasis on trichomes and not enough on the whole plant.
This is what I thought, Like I know she's got a while left in her from the fact the leaves are mainly green, buds colour and hair colour, I'm just getting really scared with the weather now gone and the density of these nugs, like they are hard as rocks already and I am so scared of rot/mold

Today's 96% humidity with a top of 20 degree's celsius, Not a single day above 20 in the next 14 days, rains due and I'm going to assume the humidity won't drop below 70%

I really don't want to, but if I cut in a week, do you think it'll at least of reached a 50/50 trich level? I can't lose this girl, Only have about a bag left of last years.
 
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Thundercat

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It won't mature that much in a week no. However if you must cut due to weather then file it under shit happens. Personally I would leave it as long as absolutely possible for the best outcome. Keep an eye in it for any signs of rot and let it try to finish.
 

BushWookie

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It won't mature that much in a week no. However if you must cut due to weather then file it under shit happens. Personally I would leave it as long as absolutely possible for the best outcome. Keep an eye in it for any signs of rot and let it try to finish.
Yeah I have been trying to, my first plan was to let this go until it was bordering over-mature, but with the weather closing in I've been getting more scared of it, keep checking them every day.

I know weather reports are ass, but if it's even close, the seasons done, huge humidity, rain, wind and cold :(
 

Thundercat

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You won't "over ripen" them. Seriously I've only seen it done when people intentionally leave plants crazy long on purpose.

Weather is a legit reason to cut if it keeps getting worse.
 

BushWookie

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That was my plan haha, the weather had been so good, 22-25c, low winds, 50%ish humidity, reasonably dry, I got my hopes up to let it go crazy long and cut it right before it started losing potency, I wasn't too scared of the couch lock effect, I just wanted mass really at that point, but think I'm going to have to accept this is likely to come down premature. First time outdoor growing, so live and learn I suppose haha, pick shorter flowering strains xD
 

Thundercat

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Those aren't actually matured receeded hairs. Most likely those have been slightly damaged by winds or rains or hands, and have just started to brown. Mature is different.
 

BushWookie

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Those aren't actually matured receeded hairs. Most likely those have been slightly damaged by winds or rains or hands, and have just started to brown. Mature is different.
Hmm, I was worried about that, I thought they looked rather uhh, thin? Dry? idk what the word to describe it is haha, withered I guess. I just thought it must've been the strain but now you mention it we did have a day of bad winds around that time. Was shocked my plants took it, 100kmh wind gusts.
Wouldn't be hand, I make sure to never touch the actual bud, the closest I get is gently resting the fans coming out of it against my hand to stabilise it, like the photo, unless that'd do it but I've never had this issue indoors and i've always handed my buds like that.

It's a bit hard trying to transfer my indoor knowledge because the factors are so different, some things transfer fine, but I've run into things I never dealt with before, like trying to stop my other plant going 10ft tall and shading this one.

Dropped down below 10c last night, the plant is definitely showing how much it liked that, good news approx 50% hairs are brown now, bad news, you just made me realise why.

With an average max of 17c and an average low of 9c and only getting worse, do I just cut my losses?
 

Thundercat

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NOpe ride it till it really doesn't make sense. That plant might respond to the poor conditions and try to finish itself quickly. I learned years ago that I push any plant worth growing to the limit I can grow it :).
 

BushWookie

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NOpe ride it till it really doesn't make sense. That plant might respond to the poor conditions and try to finish itself quickly. I learned years ago that I push any plant worth growing to the limit I can grow it :).
yeah hopefully because she's an absolute ripper, given that it had a 6ft tall and 6ft wide cheese blocking it for most of it's life it's nugs are big and dense.
 

BushWookie

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So when would you say throw in the towel man? When I've run into the "how long" issues, I've always just checked the flower time suggestions, accepted they're at their potential and I fucked up xD But now it's more a battle of how long can I push it through the weather without losing smoke
 
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Thundercat

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Man like I said before I would just watch it for any issues or rot, and if it starts cold raining cut it. Some cold nights won't hurt anything, but you don't want it getting drenched and super wet and cold.
 

BushWookie

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Well after going through all my seed orders, I think this one is super lemon haze, it's the only one I got 3 seeds of, seems damn small for a SLH though. If it is really hoping it pulls through but it doesn't look like a Super lemon haze to me, but every other order I did was either 1 seed, 5 seeds or 10 and I never germinated any lemons prior to now :S Guess I'll have to wait and see final bud structure and try to guess haha.
 
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