Plant Moisture Stress - Symptoms and Solutions

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East

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Uncle Ben said:
What are you doing? Did you yank out your plants, put them in a potting soil with the intent to put them back in the ground at a different site?
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Rents want them out, yeah I was stressin at the time...thought I did a better job of transplanting them but I guess not. I just went out and bought some foxfarm veg. grow too for them. Would you think if I used clonex on them it would stimulate them to grow roots faster? Just a thought..oh and btw I misted them and brought them in the shed and they look alot better.
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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East said:
Rents want them out, yeah I was stressin at the time...thought I did a better job of transplanting them but I guess not. I just went out and bought some foxfarm veg. grow too for them. Would you think if I used clonex on them it would stimulate them to grow roots faster? Just a thought..oh and btw I misted them and brought them in the shed and they look alot better.
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You could try the clonex, won't hurt. It's just gonna take time for that plant to recover, weeks. Go easy on the plant food. Right now it doesn't require much and any excess will burn the new sensitive root hairs. Give them shelter from the hot sun and wind, mist once in a while to keep the RH in the micro-climate high, and leave 'em them in the pot. If you want to transplant it later outdoors, then use a shovel to dig a 3" deep hole the diameter of the pot, drop the pot into that hole, fill in the gaps around the pot with dirt and they'll do better than if they had been popped out of the pot with the rootball transplanted back into native soil. The roots will find the drainholes, grow into native soil reaping the benefit of your watering and salts application.

UB
 
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East

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Uncle Ben said:
You could try the clonex, won't hurt. It's just gonna take time for that plant to recover, weeks. Go easy on the plant food. Right now it doesn't require much and any excess will burn the new sensitive root hairs. Give them shelter from the hot sun and wind, mist once in a while to keep the RH in the micro-climate high, and leave 'em them in the pot. If you want to transplant it later outdoors, then use a shovel to dig a 3" deep hole the diameter of the pot, drop the pot into that hole, fill in the gaps around the pot with dirt and they'll do better than if they had been popped out of the pot with the rootball transplanted back into native soil. The roots will find the drainholes, grow into native soil reaping the benefit of your watering and salts application.

UB
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Nice *thumbs up*, thanks for the help man. :peace:
 
Katatawnic

Katatawnic

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Hi Uncle Ben, I'm in a bit of a dilemma. My plants are 20 days old, and everything was going so smoothly until we had a major power outage last weekend. (I was asleep throughout the first six or so hours, so was quite unaware.) That opened up a huge can of worms, and now I'm fighting a case of pythium. It's mild because I've been aggressively attacking it, but it's so persistent and honestly my body just can't take any more of this. (I'm physically limited.) So far my plants don't appear to have any visible signs of pythium, only the roots.

I've gardened a good 25 of my 38 years, and the funny thing is I'd "just do it" if it were any other plant. But here I am looking for opinions and advice first, simply because it's a "different" kind of plant. :lol: I've encountered pythium before, and likely will again. What I've done in the past, if cleansing/sanitizing everything and trimming off dead/weak portions of the roots doesn't stop it quickly, is to simply cut the plant and start it rooting over again; treating it like a "clone" so to speak. However, I've not had to deal with pythium this early before. One of my plants is developing its fifth node, the other three their sixth.

What I've been doing:

  • Drain reservoir, clean & sanitize everything. Add peroxide to reservoir after filling. At least once daily.
  • Flush the net pots, spray diluted peroxide directly on the roots and grow medium, let it soak and do its stuff, rinse thoroughly. Several times daily, whenever "gunk" on the roots starts to show even slightly.
  • Trim off all dead/weak roots that can be accessed.
Draining/replenishing the reservoir once a week is hard enough on me; I normally have a weekly schedule because the day I do my cleaning maintenance, I'm useless to do anything else. Needless to day, this daily draining/cleaning/refilling is not only causing a lot of pain, but literally rendering me immobile for hours. They are growing little new shoots of roots, but the pythium is faster than I am, and I don't see much of a chance for the roots to recover on their own.

So, now that I made a very long story as short as possible :lol: .... I'm ready to do the "treating them like clones" thing and be done with the worst of this battle. I can keep them in a tray/dome setup for now, which will give me time to thoroughly sterilize the reservoir and pumps, etc., and have a fresh start. But because they are so young, I'm not sure if it'll help or kill them.

I know you're not a hydro guy, but plants is plants. :mrgreen: And I'm wondering if you think this is the best route at this point, or if there's something else I could do that's more effective and less stressful on them. (The constant washing of the roots has to be stressful too though, because you've gotta really get in there to reach the effected areas, and even then you just can't get in there quite enough!) Please keep in mind that I am flat broke till the 15th. I mean absolutely not a penny; the owner of the little "$1+" store next door was kind enough to front me more peroxide because I couldn't even dig up enough change for that!

EDIT: I do have Hygrozyme ordered, which will help with the cleaning. I'm guesstimating it'll be here by Monday. That's the last purchase I made before breaking the bank. ;) And I've got a photo from night before last. They look the same today. Still no damage to the foliage; it's only attacked the roots so far.

Thanks in advance for any advice! :D

wyteboi said:
" Wean yourself off the charts, and grow some plants people." <<<< this is some of the best shit i ever seen on RIU, along with some of your other posts uncle! you trully are the man!!!!

I have NEVER HEARD such a thing as too much light.......EVER! and i bet 9 outta 10 folks on here will disagree, but i seen it with my own eyes.........."bleaching" is all i can say. I pulled the light up some, and dropped the plants some and magiclly i have new growth now......:clap: now the ph thing just puts you over the top! you know this already but somtimes it helps to hear it from someone new.......you are the man , uncle ben.
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Indeed! :clap: I took the advice of those saying to put the lights SO close to my (last) plants, and they got bleached and burned! Moved them back up to where I felt comfortable with it, and they flourished wonderfully.

Another thing is the whole debate as to how many hours to have light. I don't agree with 24/0 myself, it just doesn't make sense. Part of photosynthesis is a rest period! If we humans don't get sleep, we become very sluggish and our health deteriorates. Growth in children is stunted. Why wouldn't this be the same for plants?! I never go more than 20/4, and prefer 18/6. Seeing how perky they are in the morning after a good night's rest, I could never see going 24/0.

Also, although of course pH can cause problems, it's just as often (if not more so) a symptom of problems rather than the cause. For instance, right after the pythium started its attack, my pH went up right along with it. It was just fine until then. And so long as I work to stay on top of the pythium as much as possible, my pH remains just fine.
 
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East

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Sorry to cut in, heres one of my ladies as of now UB.


The other one is still in stress, I actually decided to change its soil a few days ago because my friend gave me some fox farm soil. So hopefully she recovers as well...only time will tell.
 
driftwoodg

driftwoodg

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i'd give them a medium dose of kelp emulsion with water, and give them three days rest before re-planting them. they look fine to me. you could even add some rooting hormone to the mix, and that should solve your worries about the root issue.
good luck.
 
BlazinPassion4Green

BlazinPassion4Green

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I've have the problem of underwatering because the heat n wind been drying it up, before it was raining more but lately it been sunny n last time I saw it was dry to the bone n plants leaves were wilted n flop n curling n turning very dark green, but it's such far distancevaway we can only make it up once a week or so wat culd I do to fix this problem
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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BlazinPassion4Green said:
I've have the problem of underwatering because the heat n wind been drying it up, before it was raining more but lately it been sunny n last time I saw it was dry to the bone n plants leaves were wilted n flop n curling n turning very dark green, but it's such far distancevaway we can only make it up once a week or so wat culd I do to fix this problem
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Water ~

As my area goes thru the worst multi year drought and record heat in all of recording history, I feel yo' pain. The only thing you can do to help the situation now is mulch, hand carry water to the site and pray for rain. As a city boy turned farmer I can give a bit of advice, as growing anything CAN be an emotionally devastating thing -

1. if you can't handle losses then don't get involved,

2. If you're one that must always be in control, then don't get involved. It doesn't matter what you do, mama nature is gonna kick your ass every which way but Sunday......then there's the cops, thieves, pests, etc.

Of course you can do what the boyz south of Corsicana did and put in an elaborate irrigation system for 10,000 plants. Problem is those boyz are going to jail.

http://cbs11tv.com/local/navarro.county.marijuana.2.1088799.html

Good luck,
UB
 
George W.

George W.

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Hey Uncle

Can underwatering using a soilless mixture in a hydro drip system cause salt buildup and then Nute Lock Out?


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PowerPlantPuss

PowerPlantPuss

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canadiancracker said:
can you help check these out

thanks in advance,

i think it might be over watering or maybe too much light.

thanks in advance, great thread by the way...
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the first pic, looks like the plant is too big 4 the pot!!! i had the same problem untill i realized how but the roots actually get! try transplanting it into a bigger pot with fresh potting compost it worked wounders for mine :joint:
 
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felloffscooterstoned

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start off with good soil and quality seed. by getting good soil and you can do away with grow nutrient just use bloom when you flower them. that way you wont have a build up of chemicals also can i mention that if you want good free soil look for a patch of stinging nettles put the weeds out and grab some soil stinging nettles puduce nitrogen crystals in the ground i seen some fantastic results
 
ronin673

ronin673

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Hey all,
I'm wondering instead of diluted molasses for carbs, I would give my girls rasinwater. It's just 8 oz of purified water that has 2 small boxes of rasins that has been soaking in it.

Food Value ​
Minerals and Vitamins ​
Moisture - 20.2% Calcium - 87 mg Protein - 1.8% Phosphorus - 80 mg Fat - 0.3% Iron - 7.7 mg Minerals - 2.0% Vitamin C - 1 mg Carbohydrates - 74.6% Small amount of Vitamin B Complex Fibre - 1.1% * Value per 100 gm's edible portion Calorific Value - 308

This might also be a nice way to back down the acidity off soil or grow medium as raisins are naturally alkaline.
Any thoughts?
 
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