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Scrotie Mcboogerballs

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I have no problem with anyone selling cannabis, I feel like caregivers should provide the patients they grow for some free medicine in exchange for the right to grow their 12 plants and possess another 2.5 oz of medicine legally in MI.

It's the difference between giving someone a fish and teaching them to fish man. Anyone can give someone some meds, not everyone can provide them with the resource to grow their own superior medicine.
I'm not talking about teaching someone to grow. I'm talking about giving away the plant material to do so. You put yourself on a moral pedestal cause you give away meds to the patients that give you the rights to grow in the first place. You are doing something that the law requites to do. Congrats. And keep patting yourself on the back. But what about seeds and clones? Why don't you just give those away? It's because it's your flagship and you want to make profit off of cannabis. You're not any better of a human being for doing what is required of you so that you can jump through loop holes and make a profit. Call it what you want.
 

Usernamewastaken

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I love that you're defending a grower that defoliated a plant in veg during his first grow ever. Great manipulation... Didn't even apply the technique properly.
defending? Is your reading comprehension shot or something?

for the last fucking time, I have no problem with people sharing their beliefs that contradict mine. That is how people learn and progress is made.

its your condescending douch bag, you are the king of ganja attitude that makes me want to resort back to my previous ways of handling little pricks with shitty attitudes.

Capiche?
 

Rare D MI

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So, how many strains did you fully grow without any of the things I listed ? (no artificial lights, nutes, pest control eetc etc etc)

Because, ALL those elements have a bit of natures way in them, and they are getting manipulated to increase performance in the given situations.

And I believe these threads get locked by hot heads contributing their ignorance loudly and rude while trying to do some below the belt jabs while their at it.
I'm sorry man, but seriously, so many people have a narrow minded view on many things relating to growing cannabis.

I suggest you do some reading up ondefoliage in general, not just for canabis, you'd be surprised how much it gets applied.

Just because some people got stuck in their old ways and failed or never even tried, doesnt mean the rest who did manage it are wrong.
Im not sure i understand what you are saying, but it sounds like you're equating inventing brighter lights and bloom boosters to actually manipulating the way a plant wants to grow. Take all environmental factors out of the picture, assume every environment is perfect. The best way to learn how a plant grows is set it and forget it. Plug it in to the system with everything else, baseline everything. See how it grows without all the fancy tricks and additives. Almost every strain I take in gets test flowered as is untopped in a reasonable size pot with no frills. Can't do anything til I see how she reacts to my system.
 

Rare D MI

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I'm not talking about teaching someone to grow. I'm talking about giving away the plant material to do so. You put yourself on a moral pedestal cause you give away meds to the patients that give you the rights to grow in the first place. You are doing something that the law requites to do. Congrats. And keep patting yourself on the back. But what about seeds and clones? Why don't you just give those away? It's because it's your flagship and you want to make profit off of cannabis. You're not any better of a human being for doing what is required of you so that you can jump through loop holes and make a profit. Call it what you want.
The law does not require me to give free meds, I am allowed to be compensated for my efforts and I choose not to be by my patients.

Seeds and clones are not free to me. And if in case you missed the memo, genetics are the most important factor in the equation. You can't take bunk genes and make them bomb giving them to a good grower. Excuse me for not giving away a product that I purchase, but that doesn't seem to be how business' succeed.

Sorry you don't feel that anyone should make a living in the cannabis industry in any other way than selling it.
 

Scrotie Mcboogerballs

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The law does not require me to give free meds, I am allowed to be compensated for my efforts and I choose not to be by my patients.

Seeds and clones are not free to me. And if in case you missed the memo, genetics are the most important factor in the equation. You can't take bunk genes and make them bomb giving them to a good grower. Excuse me for not giving away a product that I purchase, but that doesn't seem to be how business' succeed.

Sorry you don't feel that anyone should make a living in the cannabis industry in any other way than selling it.
And I agree so how are you going to flame a black market dealer?
 

Rare D MI

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I feel someone openly admitting to using the system by being a patient to just flip herb they get cheap, or suggesting that be done as a means to justify having a caregiver, deserves to be flamed. Either for abusing the system, or admitting to it in open forum on the Internet, you choose.
 

automated

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Im not sure i understand what you are saying, but it sounds like you're equating inventing brighter lights and bloom boosters to actually manipulating the way a plant wants to grow. Take all environmental factors out of the picture, assume every environment is perfect. The best way to learn how a plant grows is set it and forget it. Plug it in to the system with everything else, baseline everything. See how it grows without all the fancy tricks and additives. Almost every strain I take in gets test flowered as is untopped in a reasonable size pot with no frills. Can't do anything til I see how she reacts to my system.
You dont understand, read again will you (and your own post I qouted within previous post) and then first awnser my question please :
So, how many strains did you fully grow without any of the things I listed ? (no artificial lights, nutes, pest control eetc etc etc)

Funny how this goes from differing from opinion on defoliage on how you think someone should learn how to grow an entire grow.
Oh well.

You say the best way to learn is to set and forget it ??? you serious ? when do you notice deficiencies, bugs, heat problems, humidity problems then ?
You mention your methods like its THE way to do it and come about rather aggressive in your wording to someone who doesnt follow your lead.

What I deem important is how to read my plants.
If I do something, how did they repsond and what are signs to look at and act accordingly.

On the point of trimming / defoliage:
I have scientific data gathered up to a minute precise over weeks of monitoring on different locations in my grow, which so obviously show simple benefits to even a little trimming.
Air flow. Resulted in better maintainable humidity and temperature for one thing.
Just think of the upsides to having a good airflow in your canopy as opposing to a bad one. (molds anyone ?)

In any case, please awnser my question first.
 

Scrotie Mcboogerballs

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Guy uses patients for a higher plant count, therefore being able to make more money through herb, clones and seeds. = doing it for profit.
Guy using caregiver (that uses him for plant count) by taking weed and flipping it. = profit.
Both people use each other for profit. What's the issue?
 

Scrotie Mcboogerballs

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Right? You need more patients to make more money? Why does it matter what your patients do with their meds then? Technically you give it to them for compensation of their licenses.
 

Rare D MI

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Guy uses patients for a higher plant count, therefore being able to make more money through herb, clones and seeds. = doing it for profit.
Guy using caregiver (that uses him for plant count) by taking weed and flipping it. = profit.
Both people use each other for profit. What's the issue?
One is allowed in our system we voted to implement, one is not, and is risking not only the patient, but the cargiver's safety.
 

Rare D MI

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You not being legal in Michigan obviously don't understand that there is an address associated with the caregiver on EVERY patient's card with a caregiver. Do you want someone you know walking around doing something illegal and getting arrested with a card on them with your name and an address you use on it?

That's why I care what patients do with meds they get from caregivers, cause they are walking around with a card that will lead police to the caregiver and get that person arrested for doing nothing but filling their end of an agreement.
 

Scrotie Mcboogerballs

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One is allowed in our system we voted to implement, one is not, and is risking not only the patient, but the cargiver's safety.
You have to be the biggest pussy in the world. Like 10 lb status. You're going to sit here and tell me that it is wrong because it is illegal? Oh, okay. Now i get it . . . . . . .
 

Scrotie Mcboogerballs

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You not being legal in Michigan obviously don't understand that there is an address associated with the caregiver on EVERY patient's card with a caregiver. Do you want someone you know walking around doing something illegal and getting arrested with a card on them with your name and an address you use on it?

That's why I care what patients do with meds they get from caregivers, cause they are walking around with a card that will lead police to the caregiver and get that person arrested for doing nothing but filling their end of an agreement.
Pretty sure police don't arrest caregivers for their patients selling their meds.
 

Scrotie Mcboogerballs

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You not being legal in Michigan obviously don't understand that there is an address associated with the caregiver on EVERY patient's card with a caregiver. Do you want someone you know walking around doing something illegal and getting arrested with a card on them with your name and an address you use on it?

That's why I care what patients do with meds they get from caregivers, cause they are walking around with a card that will lead police to the caregiver and get that person arrested for doing nothing but filling their end of an agreement.
It's the same in CO dbag.
 

Rare D MI

New Member
You dont understand, read again will you (and your own post I qouted within previous post) and then first awnser my question please :
So, how many strains did you fully grow without any of the things I listed ? (no artificial lights, nutes, pest control eetc etc etc)

Funny how this goes from differing from opinion on defoliage on how you think someone should learn how to grow an entire grow.
Oh well.

You say the best way to learn is to set and forget it ??? you serious ? when do you notice deficiencies, bugs, heat problems, humidity problems then ?
You mention your methods like its THE way to do it and come about rather aggressive in your wording to someone who doesnt follow your lead.

What I deem important is how to read my plants.
If I do something, how did they repsond and what are signs to look at and act accordingly.

On the point of trimming / defoliage:
I have scientific data gathered up to a minute precise over weeks of monitoring on different locations in my grow, which so obviously show simple benefits to even a little trimming.
Air flow. Resulted in better maintainable humidity and temperature for one thing.
Just think of the upsides to having a good airflow in your canopy as opposing to a bad one. (molds anyone ?)

In any case, please awnser my question first.
The things you listed weren't what was being discussed. The answer is none. Because the funny thing is, the plants really like light indoors for some reason... Outdoors, plenty.


Answer my question, do you really need that scientific data? Is your 800w grow that massive that you can't stretch your arms out and feel the changes in different "locations?" Would you need all of this scientific data if you had more space and the ability to just set your environment at a baseline? I don't know a single grower with more than 2 lights and a fully climate controlled room that have a need to defoliate for any of the purposes you mention. Attack the problems before they happen, then you're not stripping our plants trying for airflow and light penetration.
 

Rare D MI

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Pretty sure police don't arrest caregivers for their patients selling their meds.
Right... They completely ignore the source of where the pot is coming from... They are just after the street dealers, not the growers.. You are delusional. And you can't get one past me. I've seen the red cards, they don't have caregivers info. My friends there were pretty baffled as to why the caregivers address is on patient cards here.
 

Scrotie Mcboogerballs

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Right... They completely ignore the source of where the pot is coming from... They are just after the street dealers, not the growers.. You are delusional. And you can't get one past me. I've seen the red cards, they don't have caregivers info. My friends there were pretty baffled as to why the caregivers address is on patient cards.
Sorry i misread that. They don't but the information is just as attainable to police. All they have to do is call the card in, and they do. And if you were legal, wtf would they do? The answer is nothing because they don't expect you to be responsible for another adult. Would they possibly contact you to make sure you are legit? Maybe. But no, they won't arrest you. They follow the law, so please show me the law in Michigan that states if your patient is selling your meds without your knowledge, you get charged. i have a feeling that I will be waiting a while.
 

Usernamewastaken

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Ya, but like I said to those that have pm'd me regarding this thread, the unintentional result of this thread far outweighs me showing pictures of my two tortured girls.

how you treat those that you view as less informed and/or weak is your true nature calling.
 
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