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Also, didn't mean to come off harsh before. You definitely had a good first grow, and I'm sure you learned a lot in the process.

No worries man, I know your just trying to help and not being a dick.

i actually did one side by side test this time. Same genetics, same room, same soil, same nutes, same schedule. I did a heavy defoliation to one plant in veg vs no defoliation to see the impact. So far I don't see a notable difference between the two.

This is why I hate the fucking defoliation epidemic. A grower on his first grower ever is "experimenting" to see the difference, before he ever knows the full process of growing first hand. People have been cultivating this plant for thousands of years. Millions of dead growers turn in their graves every time you defoliate a plant.

Why hate on experimentation?

correct, this plant has grown forever, but has it been cut, bound, bent and twisted as peeps are doing these days for as long?

When you change one variable the test bed itself has changed to a degree

Awesome work man

Trimming / defoliage is usefull in certain matters.
I apply it to get better climate control and to make the light penetrate deeper.

To each their own.

my .02

I do very little to a plant in flower. once she hits that door all she does is feed. light and nutes. I was taught that any time u cut the plant a certain amount of 'shock' happens. Not a fan of defoliation period, last days of flower? never on purpose. In hydro by then she will be using up those fan leaves and I gotta sweep em up off the floor.

Username? those gurls need a few more minutes to fully flush out from what I can see.


experimentation ??? good? sure....would you want a virgin experimenting with BDSM ? ........ although )))))~

On a first grow you are supposed to learn what plants look like when they flower and get the process in your brain for the future. Once you know the process well and have done it successfully a few times, then slowly you can change variables and see the results. You deprived yourself of this in the name of "experimentation." Better luck next time. When you run out of meds, just remember, it was an experiment, so it was worth it right?

Rare D MI said:

better luck next time. When you run out of meds, just remember, it was an experiment, so it was worth it right?

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Dude, I experimented on one plant..

im happy with my luck, thanks for your concern.


sorry if my newbness rubbed you the wrong way to the point that felt the need to make a douche bag underhanded comment all holy dread boy!

Usernamewastaken said:

correct, this plant has grown forever, but has it been cut, bound, bent and twisted as peeps are doing these days for as long?

When you change one variable the test bed itself has changed to a degree

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i am an engineer and experimentation is key to advancements... So, again, when you change the environment and method (bend/cut/bond) reactions to certain inputs can change... To think that a system will remain static when inputs to the system are changed, without proving this is ignorant

Are you just regurgitating stuff or have you actually tried something similar to what I've done? If so, please shar your quantitative results...

Automated: thanks for your opinion and sharing your experiences.

homeless: thanks to you as we'll man... Might wanna teach these youngsters how to avoid the road of douchebagerry....

Huel Perkins said:

Also, didn't mean to come off harsh before. You definitely had a good first grow, and I'm sure you learned a lot in the process.

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Again, no worries... You'll notice I thanked your post, even though you don't endorse my actions... I'm not against people telling me they think I fucked up but I don't take kindly to douchebag comments in person, no reason for me to start taking it online...

and for the record rare douchness, my plants could all die right now and I won't be running out of meds anytime soon....but again, I appreciate your altruistic tendencies to be so concerned about my well being!

Sorry if I didn't stroke your giant ego you've developed being an engineer. Apparently everyone here wants you to be happy instead of pointing out what you did wrong so you can improve. Just remember, this is nature, there is very little that can be done to improve on the way they will grow naturally. You have to learn each plant to know their limits. Resist your instinct as an engineer to manipulate things you do not fully understand yet. Humble yourself to the plants. They will tell you what they want.

Usernamewastaken said:

thanks Glad. I'm hoping for 3 zips per. I'm smoking a zip a week since quitting my meds and I need this to last me 6 weeks,...

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Right because you never posted this??

Rare D MI said:

Sorry if I didn't stroke your giant ego you've developed being an engineer. Apparently everyone here wants you to be happy instead of pointing out what you did wrong so you can improve. Just remember, this is nature, there is very little that can be done to improve on the way they will grow naturally. You have to learn each plant to know their limits. Resist your instinct as an engineer to manipulate things you do not fully understand yet. Humble yourself to the plants. They will tell you what they want.

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Soooooo not true.
Artifical lights.
Pest control.
Nutrients.
Different styles of soils/cultures.
Stress training.
Cross breeding strains to improve specified qualities.
etc

I'm happy, and just pointing out what you said wrong.

There is but 1 thing I deem important and agree with what you said there.
Keeping an eye on the girls and learn to read them, preferbly as early as possible, then you can bend nature again to do your bidding.

Rare D MI said:

On a first grow you are supposed to learn what plants look like when they flower and get the process in your brain for the future. Once you know the process well and have done it successfully a few times, then slowly you can change variables and see the results. You deprived yourself of this in the name of "experimentation." Better luck next time. When you run out of meds, just remember, it was an experiment, so it was worth it right?

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I'm pretty sure that there are plenty of people who top, lollipop, defoliate and have a plethora of meds. You're such a tool it's not even funny. Maybe you should just stay off of the forums so you don't topple your company with your mouth. Your wife seems a little better at the whole marketing thing.

Haha, ya I have a huge ego due to being an engineer cuz you now it is just so en vogue to be an engineer these days. Hell, all the kids in our society want to be engineers, just look at all the reality tv shows to prove it:

real lives of detroit engineers
Cribs: the engineers version
pimp my data
Teen engineers

ya, much to have a big ego about..

i have no problem with you saying what I did you donut agree with. It's just the douch bag comments at the end that rubbed me the wrong way.

So, you can man up and apologize for coming off like a dick or just scram.....

Dude, I'm not the breeder for Rare Dankness, nor am I married. They live in Colorado. I live in Detroit.

And I was specifically saying he will run out of meds, because HE put a timeline on how long he needs that much weed to last him... And he even stated how much he smokes. I said, better luck next time, that's not gonna cover your time period you stated you need it to.

If you decide that you do need to continue to be a prick and hand out your condescending opinions, you can come back under an alias. 'Toolbox' perhaps?

Rare D MI said:

Dude, I'm not the breeder for Rare Dankness, nor am I married. They live in Colorado. I live in Detroit.

And I was specifically saying he will run out of meds, because HE put a timeline on how long he needs that much weed to last him... And he even stated how much he smokes. I said, better luck next time, that's not gonna cover your time period you stated you need it to.

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My bad. I thought you were him. lol in that case, your screen name cost him a transaction last night. Either way it seems like everything that comes out of your mouth is in the worse way possible. Maybe it's time for a little reflection on how to treat people.

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Soooooo not true.
Artifical lights.
Pest control.
Nutrients.
Different styles of soils/cultures.
Stress training.
Cross breeding strains to improve specified qualities.
etc

I'm happy, and just pointing out what you said wrong.

There is but 1 thing I deem important and agree with what you said there.
Keeping an eye on the girls and learn to read them, preferbly as early as possible, then you can bend nature again to do your bidding.

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Those are environmental changes mostly. I am talking about improving upon the way each plant grows naturally. You need to grow them all the way and understand how they grow. Then you can manipulate their environment to possibly bring out the best representation of the genetics. And no plants grow "better" training or topping them, they just grow more suited to your needs. None of what you listed will improve upon the plant's genetic predisposition.

A base point should be gathered not only on your first grow, but on the first grow of every strain you run. How do you know how to even attempt to manipulate if you don't know how the plant grows?