Pheno hunt vs. "strain hunt" - pros and cons

What works better for you?

  • strain hunting

    Votes: 5 41.7%

  • pheno hunting

    Votes: 7 58.3%
  • Total voters
    12
pulpoinspace

pulpoinspace

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raggyb said:
i'm a little conservative to be buying clones. i wish someone would be selling clones complete with samples at a roadside stand.
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i've ran the numbers on opening such a business actually. problem is you'd need a nursery permit, growers permit, and a dispensary permit.

I have the means to do it. sell bug and disease-free phylos verified cuts of popular strains as well as provide samples of the finished product and could easily open a dope safe-access shop where people could get what they pay for and be educated. Could also turn a massive profit, if it weren't for all the red tape. even here in santa ana, ca.
 
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raggyb

raggyb

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pulpoinspace said:
i've ran the numbers on opening such a business actually. problem is you'd need a nursery permit, growers permit, and a dispensary permit.

I have the means to do it. sell bug and disease-free phylos verified cuts of popular strains as well as provide samples of the finished product and could easily open a dope safe-access shop where people could get what they pay for and be educated. Could also turn a massive profit, if it weren't for all the red tape. even here in santa ana, ca.
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all that red tape sucks. it shouldn't be that much more difficult than opening a liquor store. maybe a little more onus should be on the customer than liquor, such as a training course before you can buy.
 
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Tumbleweedz

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Dr. Who said:
Um, I think you have the parameters of a "pheno hunt" wrong.

Pheno hunting is something you do following a breeding. Your looking for that one pheno that could knock it out of the park. With that one. Your going to likely continue the project or simply cube it out for a "stable" result.
Pheno hunting, generally takes hundreds and hundreds of beans to find that "one"
ie; Matt Riots legendary Clockwork Orange strain - sold in regulars - came in at a hunting average of 1:250 beans was the "one".
I have run 24 beans from a new project and got 14 different pheno's out of that first 24 popped. 8 Males and 2 repeat pheno's.
I got lucky and each of us working the pheno hunt. Found that "one" in the first 100 beans (each) run.

The chances of getting a good pheno out of a single pack? Kind of low, but I do it still...

As far as part 2 goes. The last "con" is right.

I suggest you begin to hunt for certified clones of a strain you want. I do far more clone buying then bean buying!
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I want to go this route. How to find great parents tho? ACE Seeds?
 
Moflow

Moflow

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Tumbleweedz said:
I want to go this route. How to find great parents tho? ACE Seeds?
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As good a place to start as any for a bit of pollen chucking.
I think Ace has a sale on.

Ace Seeds Malawi male x Sensi Star original.
'Malstars' F1 lol
January last year
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I've 6 x Malstar seed plants vegging at the moment.
Good luck
 
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Tumbleweedz

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Moflow said:
As good a place to start as any for a bit of pollen chucking.
I think Ace has a sale on.

Ace Seeds Malawi male x Sensi Star original.
'Malstars' F1 lol
January last year
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I've 6 x Malstar seed plants vegging at the moment.
Good luck
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Ya but how GOOD is this ACE stuff...... ACTUALLY??!!?

The thing with doing a pheno hunt for that real one killer gem....... Where to get the beans??!?!

How do I even know a particular strain is worth investing 200 beans in, if I cant even smoke it beforehand?!?!?

I feel like I should go to Amsterdam or BC. Pilgramage. Smoke before I buy. Try and buy?

NOT BUY THEN TRY?!??!
 
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Tumbleweedz

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I also think the best quality product will be a greenhouse plant with supplemental additional lightening / UV....

For the record..
 
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Tumbleweedz

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Also I want Sativa. A real 15 - 25 week Sativa.

Why????

Because the Commercial LPs and Black Market producers will not grow a true 14 week sativa, let alone a 20 week or 24 week.

Therefore, that shit doesn't exist on the retail market. Therefore, I want to grow it.

WEVE ALL HAD OUR FILL OF INDICA !!!!!!!
 
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Tumbleweedz

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And why not test all the males for psychoactive high?

Then cross that freak male, with a freak female.

Then run another 300 seeds? ???
 
Nrk.cdn

Nrk.cdn

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If you look at Ace and want long flowering, Old Timer's Haze (14-20w). Go look at their site.

Do your research as you are the one growing. Opinions and advice is subjective at best. Start growing.
 
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