Relaxed
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enjoy your grow.
PH dropping alot in organic soil
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Wattzzup
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I even highlighted what they sent him and he goes “nope”. It’s in the email HE posted.
Kalebaiden
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I see where this thread could go. The driver is nervous, the car is wobbly and I think the brakes are faulty...
I don't even feel bad about doing this......well....maybe a little bad.
I don't even feel bad about doing this......well....maybe a little bad.
Relaxed
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yep, sometimes people do that to themselves. He'll be back looking for help soon enough and tell everyone they are wrong. It's a type person. What he doesn't realize is both answers are correct but you can only try to help.I even highlighted what they sent him and he goes “nope”. It’s in the email HE posted.
kodak91
Active Member
"Now, the micro-life can lower the pH to 6,1-6,2, but if you feed water with a pH lower then 6,1-6,2 you can have a problem. The micro-life can lower the pH, but not increase it. "
Relaxed
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hilarious....
Kalebaiden
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Wattzzup
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I’m looking for “adjust” why are you trolling? Why would you need to increase it?
kodak91
Active Member
Because, per exemple, when i add 2ml/1L biogrow the PH goes from 7 to 5,5.
King's Indican
Member
I found this topic couple of months ago when I had an ongoing grow with Biobizz products (all of them).
Whenever I come across with biobizz official statement it sounds like someone from sales or marketing talking not some guy who know about plants.
First off all their product called Biobizz Microbes has a pH value of 8.3-8.8. This is written on the bottle. Recommended dosage is 0.2 to 0.4 gr/L and it definitely raises the pH of the nutrient solution. For example let's prepare a solution with 2 ml calmag, 1 ml grow, 2 ml bloom, 1 ml top max, 2 ml algamic, 2 ml activera, 2 ml bio heaven and 0,4 gr microbes per liter and you will have an ec around 1.3 and ph between 7 and 7.5. Before adding microbes to the solution ph was 6.something. And if you leave a biobizz solution by itself, the pH keep raising. I use Zero Water filters. I had 6 airpots filled with BB Light mix. And I started to have pH rise issues around week 7-8 all of the pots at the same time.
I was trying to follow the advices from biobizz and my grow kind of fucked up. Runoff pH was 7-7.5. Even though I added a lot of microbes to the solution it was just making it worse. The soil was only able to buffer itself for 7 weeks. That was my first and last ever experiment with not ph'ing nutrient solution and trusting the marketing ideas behind the products but the truth is it's never a good idea. When you make a solution following the vegetation part or the late flowering part dosages of the official biobizz schedule you can't get a nice pH for the vegetation it's not enough nutrients especially if you are using RO water, for the last part the reason is too much nutrients. I like how biobizz buds taste but the information is totally unreliable and the microbes product which is their latest release is a disappointment and doesn't even have a single mycorazie in it.
when growing with organics flushing is not a good idea so once the soil pH is out of range it's very hard to fix it.
After week 8 I started ph'ing my solutions with Plagron organic ph down and my plants definitely got better in the end.
Whenever I come across with biobizz official statement it sounds like someone from sales or marketing talking not some guy who know about plants.
First off all their product called Biobizz Microbes has a pH value of 8.3-8.8. This is written on the bottle. Recommended dosage is 0.2 to 0.4 gr/L and it definitely raises the pH of the nutrient solution. For example let's prepare a solution with 2 ml calmag, 1 ml grow, 2 ml bloom, 1 ml top max, 2 ml algamic, 2 ml activera, 2 ml bio heaven and 0,4 gr microbes per liter and you will have an ec around 1.3 and ph between 7 and 7.5. Before adding microbes to the solution ph was 6.something. And if you leave a biobizz solution by itself, the pH keep raising. I use Zero Water filters. I had 6 airpots filled with BB Light mix. And I started to have pH rise issues around week 7-8 all of the pots at the same time.
I was trying to follow the advices from biobizz and my grow kind of fucked up. Runoff pH was 7-7.5. Even though I added a lot of microbes to the solution it was just making it worse. The soil was only able to buffer itself for 7 weeks. That was my first and last ever experiment with not ph'ing nutrient solution and trusting the marketing ideas behind the products but the truth is it's never a good idea. When you make a solution following the vegetation part or the late flowering part dosages of the official biobizz schedule you can't get a nice pH for the vegetation it's not enough nutrients especially if you are using RO water, for the last part the reason is too much nutrients. I like how biobizz buds taste but the information is totally unreliable and the microbes product which is their latest release is a disappointment and doesn't even have a single mycorazie in it.
when growing with organics flushing is not a good idea so once the soil pH is out of range it's very hard to fix it.
After week 8 I started ph'ing my solutions with Plagron organic ph down and my plants definitely got better in the end.
Aalbergsjø
New Member
I just have to ask. Has anyone of you that are saying not to adjust ph, ever tried it? I have. My water has a ph of around 5.9-6.5, and when i mix bio grow, fish mix and bloom, my ph has dropped far below what is recommended. It get close to 4.0 when in late flowering. After mixing in biobizz nutrients in every 10 liters of water, I have to use 5ml of ph up (not using organic) to get it around 6.5. And i have had no problems with my plants at all. No lockout, no deficiency. And yes, i do use all the biobizz nutrients. I use bio grow, fish mix, bloom, top max, bio heaven, acti vera, alg-a-mic and cal-mag. I do use both bio grow and fish mix togheter, half of each. I also use some bud blaster that is not organic at the last two weeks before i start flushing. I am not saying you are not correct in that the ph will adjust itself. But the plants will for sure feel it when you feed them water with a ph in the 4 range, and get unnecessary stress of it. So to me its logic that you adjust the ph so that the plants dont get that unnecessary stress. It will take a little while before the soil adjust the ph, right? And if the guy from biobizz that has answered the mail shared in this thread, is correct. That the ph will not adjust itself up. Then i dont think my plants would be doing any good. But i have not tried without adjusting the ph when using biobizz. So i will take one plant next time and not adjust the ph on it, to see if it will be just as healthy. I would like nothing more then to not adjust ph, thats money saved.
ooof-da
Well-Known Member
It’s like water is only slightly buffered, it does not take much solid to change the pH of liquid. Soil is highly buffered, it takes a lot of liquid to change the pH of a solid. So when people say don’t worry about pH when in Soil that is why imo. I have tried it both ways outdoors and never noticed a difference- but that’s not scientific just me observing lol
Aalbergsjø
New Member
That coud be, sounds logic. I will as i said try without adjusting on one plant next time. And ofc let you here know how that turns out.