papaver somniferum poppies :)

donthatetaylor

donthatetaylor

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thinking about trying out some poppy pods any suggestions? good sites? also i heard that there is a method of turning opium tea into smokeable opium by placing it in a oven at very low heat for a day to let the water evaporate and your left with the lovable black goo.


anyone try this or have a better method?

well lets just talk poppies.
 
donthatetaylor

donthatetaylor

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ok i did some research and that is pretty stupid. but yea i figured out better ways of making poppy putty, but i'm still really interested in poppies. i thinking of doing a cultivation this season on the side of my usual crop or maybe even trying to grow them indoors. anyone have any experience with growing poppy plants?
 
shepj

shepj

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Unless you're making tea I'd just grow it :-) They grow like wildfire dude, throw some seeds outside, they will grow and spread like a mahfucka.
 
ANC

ANC

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I think there is an opium extraction from seeds thread on mycotopia.
 
donthatetaylor

donthatetaylor

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well i read a more interesting tread in a opium forum on how a grower would take his dried poppies left over from his season and then make the tea and then extract the key elements through evaporation. then through the same process they use to refine opium into better smoking opium he would turn his pod puddy into some worth while stuff. just wonder how you guys feel about this as i value your opinions over those in other forums. i have seen more of your knowledge so to say.
 
donthatetaylor

donthatetaylor

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shepj said:
Unless you're making tea I'd just grow it :-) They grow like wildfire dude, throw some seeds outside, they will grow and spread like a mahfucka.
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this is a little hard for me to do. i recently moved to the city of brotherly love and well there isn't much land for me to grow on. although i might be back down south very shortly were there is plenty of farm land;-)
 
CreepyStevie69

CreepyStevie69

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moving on... i know fdd has a thread about it somewhere. love him or hate him. he has some good grows and very informative.
 
donthatetaylor

donthatetaylor

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Big P said:
hey don did you order yours form here


i wanted to try some a while back but wasnt sure

which kinds are the best to order

you guys got links to a good recipe?


whats that shit like?
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yep i actually did. i tried them out because you didn't have to make a bulk order and i don't feel like dropping a hundred dolores on it until i try.

as far as how to use it. heat some water up to a boil. let it drop just below a boil to prevent loss of key elements:-P then throw your crushed poppy pods in make a tea strain and try to stomach it down. i hear adding honey or sugarless lemonade mixes help a lot. the artificial sugar in sugarless drinks is supposed to mask it quite nicely.

for pod puddy. make the tea and use evaporation to extract the key elements. this is done with a few different methods, but same basic idea as a thc extraction using butane for honey oil. use water or alcohol make your tea and let evaporate. you can speed this process up (be careful if you do it with alcohol) and what is left you can smoke, eat, do what you please with, but with what research i've done this seems to be foolish and your better off just drinking the tea even if it does taste bad. although one guy who seemed fairly knowledgeable of the plant insisted that if you refine it twice with the above method like they do to opium straight off the plant it makes it into a very nice smokable. i don't know this from experience so don't hold me accountable if you try it, but i read it on a forum specifically dedicated to poppies. i believe it was poppies.org but not sure.

as far as best kinds i can't really tell you from personal use but gigantium seem popular, but any strain (not sure if thats the proper term for this plant) of the papaver somniferum poppy will do just fine. preferably those left uncoated for flower arrangements

what its like well i'll get back to you on that shortly but far as i know now i'm guessing a weaker version of an opium high.

hope i helped.

for further info i suggest going to poppies.org as it is solely based on this most amazing plant.

and they say pot heads are lazy and don't do anything. i find it very helpful for rants. it helps motivate me to do many things i normally wouldn't have the patients to do sober..:eyesmoke:
 
Big P

Big P

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donthatetaylor said:
yep i actually did. i tried them out because you didn't have to make a bulk order and i don't feel like dropping a hundred dolores on it until i try.

as far as how to use it. heat some water up to a boil. let it drop just below a boil to prevent loss of key elements:-P then throw your crushed poppy pods in make a tea strain and try to stomach it down. i hear adding honey or sugarless lemonade mixes help a lot. the artificial sugar in sugarless drinks is supposed to mask it quite nicely.

for pod puddy. make the tea and use evaporation to extract the key elements. this is done with a few different methods, but same basic idea as a thc extraction using butane for honey oil. use water or alcohol make your tea and let evaporate. you can speed this process up (be careful if you do it with alcohol) and what is left you can smoke, eat, do what you please with, but with what research i've done this seems to be foolish and your better off just drinking the tea even if it does taste bad. although one guy who seemed fairly knowledgeable of the plant insisted that if you refine it twice with the above method like they do to opium straight off the plant it makes it into a very nice smokable. i don't know this from experience so don't hold me accountable if you try it, but i read it on a forum specifically dedicated to poppies. i believe it was poppies.org but not sure.

as far as best kinds i can't really tell you from personal use but gigantium seem popular, but any strain (not sure if thats the proper term for this plant) of the papaver somniferum poppy will do just fine. preferably those left uncoated for flower arrangements

what its like well i'll get back to you on that shortly but far as i know now i'm guessing a weaker version of an opium high.

hope i helped.

for further info i suggest going to poppies.org as it is solely based on this most amazing plant.

and they say pot heads are lazy and don't do anything. i find it very helpful for rants. it helps motivate me to do many things i normally wouldn't have the patients to do sober..:eyesmoke:
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thanks man pls post your results,.


i did some research last night too i found out the following from good sources I think


Tasmanian Gigs (Tasmanian purple) are some of the best to buy

a guy says the easyest way to make the tea is to put 1 coffee filter in your coffee machine, crush the pods and put it where the coffee would go then brew it.

then take what you just brewed and pour it back into the coffee maker and brew it again to make is stronger.

he also included like how many cups of water to add and all that but i forgot, ill post it up later tonight

but he seemed to have tried several methods and said this is the easiest and makes perfect batches suposedly

if you do this obviously buy a cheap coffe machine for just that purpose or clean the machine with hot water and viniger and brew the hot water and viniger to clean all the opiate residue from the coffee machine before returning it to "normal" use



also he said if you have a coffee machine that has a "strong" setting cook it on that setting.


but yea pls let me know how the pods you got are

the only thing i cant find on the net is the best place to purchse the most potent poppies.



can anyone with expiriance help us out maybe in a pm if you dont wanna post the actual site
 
Big P

Big P

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I also heard of a kid dieing cuz he made tea with seeds and its a lot harder to jugde dosage with poppy seeds since you gotta put a crapload in there

so they say stick to the pods only
 
shepj

shepj

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The pods can also vary greatly from pod to pod and batch to batch. Always start small, and slowly work your way up. You can always take more, once you have too much you can't take less.
 
Big P

Big P

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shepj said:
The pods can also vary greatly from pod to pod and batch to batch. Always start small, and slowly work your way up. You can always take more, once you have too much you can't take less.
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thanks for the good advice shep


do you know how long it takes after you drink it to take its effect?


also do you know how long its supposed to last? the high i mean?


anyone know if its dangerous to drink alcohal on it?
 
shepj

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
Big P said:
thanks for the good advice shep


do you know how long it takes after you drink it to take its effect?


also do you know how long its supposed to last? the high i mean?


anyone know if its dangerous to drink alcohal on it?
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No problem. uhm.. I am pretty sure most of the active ingredients are Morphine and Codeine.. so ~30 minutes give or take a little bit.

Shit.. I had a few rounds of tea and was high all day. Generally opiates last a while, probably 5-10 hours depending on how you space out the dosing, how tolerant you are, how much you have, etc.

eh.. generally speaking this is a no-no. Unless you are tolerant (or atleast very experienced) with alcohol and with opiates/opioids, I would recommend that you keep the alcohol to a minimum. Potentially it is a deadly combination if you are not tolerant.
 
ANC

ANC

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Please be carefull of the tea, personaly I wouldn't use it, this is because of the high variability of alkaloid content. One cup might be just right, another time it might kill you.
 
shepj

shepj

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ANC said:
Please be carefull of the tea, personaly I wouldn't use it, this is because of the high variability of alkaloid content. One cup might be just right, another time it might kill you.
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That is the truth of it.

If you are to do it, sip until it kicks in. That will give you a decent idea of what your batch of tea will be like (potency wise).
 
Big P

Big P

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ANC said:
Please be carefull of the tea, personaly I wouldn't use it, this is because of the high variability of alkaloid content. One cup might be just right, another time it might kill you.
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damn really?


thats pretty scary man, I dont really wanna risk my life

when my buddy has zanex i take about 1 or 2 pills and drink lightly on them, but i have hi alchol tolleerance so i proll drink atleast 4 beers on 1 or 2 zanex


so shep do you like the tea?

i already take green dragon 3 times a week on friday sat and wednesdays


if i do it anymore my weed tolerence gets so high that I can eat like 5 grams worth of the best buds on earth and still wont be knocked off my ass



so is takeing like zanex prolly feel the same as poppy tea? if so i can just get zanex from my buddy

he used to be an alcholic and almost died, after he got out of the hospitol we helped him stop drinking by giving him cannabutter instead of the alchol hes is so addicted too, another very amazing use for the plant

anyway so that being the case he always hooks me up when he gets pills and he gets them often cuz he cant drink.
 
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