- palin for president in 2012 !!!!!!!!!!

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ummmm...Yea i think that having someone with pretty much no experience just cause shes christian is a brilliant idea. Hell I mean she was such a good choice for vp despite her not having left the country one time in her life while she was running with good old john. The dream team would be Palin and Hillary. Also do you think that Our current president is a muslim. Also being muslim does not make you a terrorist.
 

ChChoda

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Yes he was a real bastard from what I heard. He was an immigrant also...but the white, non-italian/non-Irish type...so I guess that is ok. But all those altruistic ways of his, delayed the HMO saviors for who knows how long...and the chickens, lets not forget about the chickens.

Let us all take a moment for the chickens....smoke em' if ya got em'...:joint::shock:...IF anybody would like to say a few words for the chickens...now would be a good time....

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Wolves eat chickens, ya know? Just like granny and grandpy.
 

what... huh?

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Couple of things...

No they do not. They have a definite hand in it ($$), but Teachers unions and public opinion at the school board level is what runs education.

And I (think I) know you are exaggerating here, but it is not even close to the truth.

The education received in a public school is not exactly, but it is close to, the socio-economic base of the district. Wealthier areas have more money for the schools to hire veteran teachers and ample supplies. The parents are also usually higher educated and education is a priority. The parents are also more likely to be home in the evenings (rather than the second job)

In areas with a high % of English learners (also generally poorer districts) your statement about the 3rd grader in private school could at least be correct when compared to that of another 3rd grader. The amount of time spent teaching children English, only to have them go home to a Spanish only household is detrimental to the learning of native speaking children, period.

However, not all private schools are the same. Most are church based. These schools always have music, and usually a religion class.P.E. is often left out, but the amount of the 3 r's suffers for the hour of religion. They do not teach spelling or fractions on Sunday, so why during the academic week. These children often transition to public school at the middle and High school level as the expense and pressure from the children to be "normal". Not always, (some schools are excellent...and expensive! avg. pay is $10,000/yr less than public school!) but often these kids show up to public school behind in math, not to mention ruined for science!

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Money does not = fix in education.

"WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States spent an average of $8,701 per pupil to educate its children in 2005, the Census Bureau said on Thursday, with some states paying more than twice as much per student as others. New York was the biggest spender on education, at $14,119 per student, with New Jersey second at $13,800 and Washington, D.C., third at $12,979, the Census Bureau said."

DC is ranked last. New York? 32nd. NJ HAS stepped up to rank of 9th... wtg NJ... still, money is not the solution.

I never met the man. He was not altruistic, he was human, he took an oath. He chose to live in a rural farming community for whatever reason and during the depression there was no money.
I would argue that it was altruism which led him to take the oath, as it was obviously not the money, and altruism mandated his location as well. Don't sell him short.

If there is not a provision in the constitution allowing for it, I am against it...however...if huge amounts of money are to be spent to benefit corporations under the guise of jobs, and large amounts of money are to be spent in foreign lands for whatever reason...I think it is completely reasonable to throw a fraction a a percent of this wasted $$ at the poor...If that is socialism...what is the handout that is given to corporations in the form of tax breaks, no-bid contracts, and legislation which allows the destruction of habitat, pollution of air and water, or the money thrown at US friendly despots to keep the unrestricted liquidation of resources out from under the feet of the unknowing native population...Is this socialism too? No it is imperialism.
The breaks are meant to stimulate a local economy. It is cheaper to operate in other countries. Giving a corporation more capital to hire more people, means more taxes from employees, and more productive citizens, spending that money on the economy. It isn't as cut and dry as all that. There are absolutely areas where abuse occurs... but it has been my observation, that no matter what percentage of income they receive, they keep the same amount... so in the end the consumer eats part of it, and fewer jobs exist.

Why don't republicans get all upset about $$ going to corporations that do not need it and foreign countries that might, but welfare? healthcare? Socialism!!! and the slippery slope towards full scale red commie!
It is socialism. Why work if you will just sustain me? If you are sustaining me and I want more than sustenance, I will have to do so illegally in order to continue being sustained. The rest of us are suckers. Slaving ourselves to credit, endenturing the next 30 years of our lives, 40 hours a week to a corporation who could drop us at any second. Credit cards. Why work your life away and build good credit when credit becomes worthless? The community reinvestment act... forced lenders to make BAD LOANS to poor people, so they could drive up home ownership in that demographic.

Republican are for farm subsidies that subsidize the over planting of monsanto seed...but food stamps? Yes of course...Multi-national billion dollar Monsanto needs and deserves federal assistance, but a single mother working a shitty job or 2 makes too much money to qualify for help...plus that would be socialism...and we are not socialists. Free market my ass.
Necessity is the mother of invention. Your mother of 2 doesn't like her shitty job? How many hours a week is she dedicating to getting a better one? Socialism stifles innovation. It impedes self improvement. It demotivates.

To use the logic that healthcare would lead to poor care for everyone rather than mediocre care for those who previously had none...is just like saying that legalized gay marriage will lead to people wanting to marry goats....not surprisingly, both fallacies come from the same source.
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Hayduke

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Couple of things...




Money does not = fix in education.
true. Cali is 48th in spending I think, though in general you get what you pay for.

I would argue that it was altruism which led him to take the oath, as it was obviously not the money, and altruism mandated his location as well. Don't sell him short.
I agree. I was just trying to deal with the schizo bigtexasman/chchoda. thank you for kind words for the dead.

Necessity is the mother of invention. Your mother of 2 doesn't like her shitty job? How many hours a week is she dedicating to getting a better one? Socialism stifles innovation. It impedes self improvement. It demotivates.
Necessity may be the mother of invention, but after working even a full time job, much less a second, grocery shopping, cooking cleaning, laundry, homework, reading, baths etc...what is she supposed to take away from? Many do, and let their kids suffer for their own ambition.

As for what socialism does...I don't know...I want basically zero government (raise army/ make coinage/settle legal disputes...constitution stuff) but I really do not think that demotivated, stifled in innovation, and impeded in self-improvement is the way people in Canada and Europe would describe their horrible existence. I believe this is parroted rhetoric of the GOP.

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fried at 420

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hey palin sucked my big fat hairy manhood and im afraid to say there was no tounge so palin sucks at sucking therefore she would make a great president cuz she is so retarded
no way she could mess up
 

fried at 420

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lolz well my job doesnet require much effort plus i have a blackberry so internet is very accesable and as always im on RIU!
 

jrh72582

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If this doesn't strike fear into the hearts of the libbies, nothing will: :lol:

This should strike fear into anyone leaning right simply because it would destroy their chances of winning. Anyone facing Palin will always win. She does have a faithful base, but way too miniscule. The bible-fearing, socially conservative America is a concept of the past. We're following Europe's footsteps here. As much as I like a healthy mix of conservative and progressive thought, Palin's type of conservative base is being abandoned by the 'new' right. Fiscally conservative, responsible conservatives who emphasize small government and individual prosperity. Palin holds true to these ideas, but her main emphasis (religion) and polarizing demeanor will exclude her from this 'new' right movement - this Steele movement.

Now, I could be wrong, but this is how I see it. We'll certainly see. Either way, Palin will pop up in the news again and the next time she does, it will be for something grand, so to speak.
 

thomas232

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palin in 2012!!!!!!!!!! she is our last hope to save this great country from the antichrist obama. she will beat him easy. shes a real american and folks like her and shes a regular good christian person like you and me. who should be her pick for vp? limbaugh or cheney or rove?
LOL.
You sound like either an idiot, or a redneck.
Palin is the definition of an idiot;
 
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