P.P.P. x Blueberry x Sativa.(Full gro with pics)

natmoon

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Apart from their slight droopiness which you've said is caused by the cold in your area they look healthy enough to me.
As long as you stems are strong and fairly short you should be fine.
When you do tie of make sure that the plant is tied off loosely but securely so it can still wobble in the fans current
Most plants need to be tied of eventually i just prefer to wait until it has to be done rather than before.:blsmoke:
 

crazy-mental

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i tied just one down yesterday, i put a screw in the pot, and used plant tie to hold it down, i only did 1 for a practice, and its fine.
i think ill just do 1 a day until there all done, all 6. then if they need doing more, then so on i will tie.lol
i just want to do it bit by bit, because i dont want to snap them, and if i do them all at once, ill prob. snap 3 of 4 knowing me.
 

natmoon

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I been using photobucket select all function and then tell it to generate html code and then post the lot in a copy and paste function.
This is the second time i have heard of the scrolling screen thing i have my screen res set pretty high so i don't notice it suppose.
From now on i will post clickable thumbnails to make it easier for people.

Also what might be of help that a lot of peeps don't seem to know is if you click down on your mouse wheel whilst on any net page you will get an arrowed symbol appear and then you can just move your mouse slightly in which direction you need to go up and down or side to side in web pages,the further you move the mouse from the arrowed symbol the faster the auto scroll will move.:blsmoke:
 

yurple

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Right on, I completely understand, I'll be starting my journal soon but I'll be checking in with yours as often as I can

Thanks for checking my grow out yurple it is appreciated.
I think you'll find a lot of guys here get so many pms each day that they may not have had time to respond to your messages.
As good a grower as i am,i didn't even know that what i did and have done for years was even called fimming until i came to this site:mrgreen:

Stick with it and if someone doesn't answer you ask someone else.
In my experience with these forums taking it personally or getting angry just wont work and will only lead to bigger problems.

I am always happy to help those that i can when i can but to be honest i am subscribed to over 700 threads and sometimes i get lost in it so i may not see any notes left for me,this may have occurred if you had asked someone else for help,it may seem that they are ignoring you when in all reality they may not have seen your post or had time to reply to all the pms they get.
Some of the guys here probably have nearer to 10,000 subscribed threads.
I will bet that some growers here have to empty their pm boxs on a daily basis.:blsmoke:
 

crazy-mental

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I been using photobucket select all function and then tell it to generate html code and then post the lot in a copy and paste function.
This is the second time i have heard of the scrolling screen thing i have my screen res set pretty high so i don't notice it suppose.
From now on i will post clickable thumbnails to make it easier for people.

Also what might be of help that a lot of peeps don't seem to know is if you click down on your mouse wheel whilst on any net page you will get an arrowed symbol appear and then you can just move your mouse slightly in which direction you need to go up and down or side to side in web pages,the further you move the mouse from the arrowed symbol the faster the auto scroll will move.:blsmoke:
no nat i wasnt been funny, the way you do your pics is just fine.
 

iblazethatkush

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Hi kaya,thanks for taking a peek and commenting it is appreciated.
As well as loving my own plants and pics i love looking at other peoples to.
I had hoped to maybe be able to trade my seeds and that is why i got so detailed with it all in the first place really,but its looking like it may never happen to be honest.

Unless i can emigrate to Amsterdam that is as i don't want to break the law anymore than i currently am,but thats all speculation.
First i need to save up some hard cash before i can even apply and then wait for ages to see if i get accepted for immigration your talking years of saving and waiting for red tape really.

Many shops want my seed but it would seem they all want a load of my seeds for free.
This ain't gonna happen.:roll::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:
9 years of cross breeding to give my seeds away to some other company in the hope they will actually pay me.

Sounds like crap to me,so i will wait and share what knowledge i have and all that i know with you all.
If i ever do manage to get to the dam i will make my seeds available at a reasonable price with full info on their age i.e. date stamp the packets,born on etc,parentage,conditions and for say an extra pound or 2 include a full colour mini grow leaflet specific to each strain with pics from seed to weed and does and donts.

I am a pot geek.:mrgreen:
Maybe we need a camp like band camp but only pot camp:mrgreen:

Anyway heres the latest pics just switched the lights back on and all is fine the slight heat and tiredness stress they incurred yesterday seems to have gone away with letting them sleep for 8 hours.
In these pics i have shown all of the sites that i have fimmed and the results of fimming in high definition.

Also of note is the effect on the stems that fimming has as you can see i now have super fat and stout strong short stems which will form a great base for a strong many stemmed plant with little chance of it ever snapping.
If you wait to long to fimm and you have a long lower stem this can be a huge problem with bending or falling over especially outdoors or in strong fan currents once the plant has set with heavy buds collapse is a real issue.

Hope you all enjoy the pics as i enjoy yours,all comments are welcomed and appreciated including constructive criticism:peace:

Plants are 24 days old now from seed.































Nice ass camera!...And the weed's alright too.:mrgreen:
 

crazy-mental

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here are the ak48 that have been topped, there the same age as your ppp plants. would i be best pulling both top colas off, or should i take from different parts of the plants"lower heads". what do you think,
i didnt want to top them again yet, because the last lot i did too soon,5 days after.
sort of stunted, and didnt grow at all for 10 days.
so when do you think it would best to top, these again?.

View attachment 56165 i took from there peat pots and potted them on, into bigger pots, for now. and they seem a lot happier under the 250 hps.

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View attachment 56170the ak seem a lot happier that the d.poison, to be topped. the d.poison dont seem very happy. i think there a more outdoor strain,i think.
 

natmoon

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After the first fimm i then fimm all the resulting stems,lower stem and top stems as soon as i see enough of a new node to cut.
On the plants that have many heads already i have tried to cut them all at the same time to reduce recovery time.:blsmoke:
 

natmoon

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OK heres todays pics.
Growing like wild fire still,all plants are fimmed all over the place and these show the results with all fimms showing at least 4 new tops each as far as i can tell so far.

I am now putting pics in clickable thumbnails in case of people having slow connections and lower screen resolutions.

Also a great new triploid has shown itself and i am hoping it will be female.
If its male i dont care really as i will just use its pollen.
I can see now that the more that i breed with triploids it definitely is passed over to the next generation so it is a genetic trait and not as previosly thought just some random kind of mutation.

I have successfully passed the triploid gene from a sativa male into the pppxblueberry.
I have never seen a triploid from the pppxblueberry,ever,so it is a passable gene and i will attempt over the next few years to breed with the triploids only as i believe that this may well be the next step in cannabises evolution.
Three heads are always better than one or so i hear:mrgreen:



















 

tahoe58

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hey Nat cool post. what are you using to say whether some plant is triploid or not? just curious....
 

natmoon

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Well the debate of triploids being impossible and them all only being whorled is a raging one.
I however believe that if a plant is whorled it is caused by conditions that were only pertaining to that plants birth and growth,so if it was only whorled how could it pass sativa triploid genetics over to a completely different strain that i created and have never ever seen a triploid from in years?

Obviously i have no evidence and i am not a skilled scientist and i have no proper tools to determine it but i can see that the trait is definitely passable so i can encourage this by eventually breeding triploid females with triploid males.

I have stored triploid male sativa pollen and i hope that this new trip is a female so that i can pollinate the trip female with the old trip male pollen.
If the new triploid is a male i will pollinate the best pppxblueberryxsativa female with the trip pollen and keep going until i get what i want from them.
Years mean nothing to me when dealing with weed:blsmoke:

 

tahoe58

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thanks for the response...ahahahahah...yea like with everything else....documented or otherwise....the debate will continue. My understanding of the genetics of triploidism....in all but VERY rare cases....triploid are reproductively sterile....and are the result of a mutation as you say....the occurence meaning the are three sets of chromosomes in each nucleus....fundamentally, this would prevent it from being able to effectively divide and provide that triploid characteristic to any offspring.

from a genetics text - Triploidy causes, with a few rare exceptions, sterility of the pollen (or a strongly reduced fertility). But the generation of triploids itself is relatively simple and is caused by the fertilization of a haploid egg with a diploid pollen or vice versa.
 

natmoon

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thanks for the response...ahahahahah...yea like with everything else....documented or otherwise....the debate will continue. My understanding of the genetics of triploidism....in all but VERY rare cases....triploid are reproductively sterile....and are the result of a mutation as you say....the occurence meaning the are three sets of chromosomes in each nucleus....fundamentally, this would prevent it from being able to effectively divide and provide that triploid characteristic to any offspring.

from a genetics text - Triploidy causes, with a few rare exceptions, sterility of the pollen (or a strongly reduced fertility). But the generation of triploids itself is relatively simple and is caused by the fertilization of a haploid egg with a diploid pollen or vice versa.
Yes i also heard that they hung the first guy that stated that the world was round but i can see with my own eyes that it is a passable gene:blsmoke:
 

Dubbuh

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haha that'd suck, your smart enough to be the first person to find out the earth is really round, and they fuckin hang you. Joe Rogan was right. lol if you have'nt seen Joe Rogan's stand up dvd from 2005, get it, or tivo it on showtime it comes on now and then, best stoner stand up comedy since jim brewer(white guy from half baked).
 

natmoon

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haha that'd suck, your smart enough to be the first person to find out the earth is really round, and they fuckin hang you. Joe Rogan was right. lol if you have'nt seen Joe Rogan's stand up dvd from 2005, get it, or tivo it on showtime it comes on now and then, best stoner stand up comedy since jim brewer(white guy from half baked).
I havent heard of him to be honest.
I usually watch kat williams but i will search for him on youtube and check it out:blsmoke:
 

crazy-mental

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my strawberry haze had 3 heads and then 4 growing under, insted of 2 , it had 7 heads insted of 3. ive still got it now, i didnt have to top that one.
like the pics nat.
 
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