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cannabineer

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WTF would you know about Socialism, go read a book you mouth breathing tool. One writtem by Karl Marx will give you the footing to talk about socialism.

Stalinism is Fascism, Marx turned in his grave over that shit. SOVIET EMPIRE was not socialist, just like the USA isn't a democracy. Get a clue.
Abandonconflict, my basic premise is that Marx used a misapprehension of human nature as a cornerstone of his opus on economic philosophy. Imo socialism (or more properly, Socialism) dooms a nation implementing it to takeover by authoritarians. Marxism applied to a real world nation acquires a hyphen, as in the bellwether example: Marxism-Leninism. That's because pure Marxism is a bit abstract for the task of governing a nation. The hyphen is the wedge by which man's predatory nature is granted entry into the fabric, and the rest is all downhill. Enter Stalin, Ceausescu, a dynasty of Kims, and even the odd Pol Pot or two. cn
 

zambonic

Well-Known Member
WTF would you know about Socialism, go read a book you mouth breathing tool. One writtem by Karl Marx will give you the footing to talk about socialism.

Stalinism is Fascism, Marx turned in his grave over that shit. SOVIET EMPIRE was not socialist, just like the USA isn't a democracy. Get a clue.

First off, how do you know what I know? Do you some how know me? For all you know I might have lived in a socialist country at one time. So instead of attacking someone without knowing jack shit about that person, may I suggest you sir keep your fucking mouth shut, because it just makes you look like the tool. Also I am well aware that the United States is not a democracy and I would like to keep it that way.
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
Abandonconflict, my basic premise is that Marx used a misapprehension of human nature as a cornerstone of his opus on economic philosophy. Imo socialism dooms a nation implementing it to takeover by authoritarians. Marxism applied to a real world nation acquires a hyphen, as in the bellwether example: Marxism-Leninism. That's because pure Marxism is a bit abstract for the task of governing a nation. The hyphen is the wedge by which man's predatory nature is granted entry into the fabric, and the rest is all downhill. Enter Stalin, Ceausescu, a dynasty of Kims, and even the odd Pol Pot or two. cn
I agree that corruption is the primary flaw of all systems. I like this... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism
 
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