3x3 grow

dirtball

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Howdy. Thought I'd chime in for a sec.

Years ago I was in need of more space so I enlisted a friend/took over his basement and set up for max fun. To make a long story shorter...we did a few grows and experienced what you seem to be experiencing mid-flower. Everything would look good...then instantly take a huge shit.

I'm not a fan of adding in dolomite/ferts/etc in my mix. Once yer on that train you cannot get off. It's where the term "shit happens" comes from in my dictionary. Outdoors is the only place I supercharge dirt/add anything into the mix. Plants outside can process things faster/etc, IMO than indoors.
But I digress...

Hopefully the changes you've made will see this grow finish/work out for ya. If it does...change nothing.:D If it doesn't...on the next grow I'd go with the OF/a bit more perlite with no additions. From there, I'd be sure every watering was spot on on pH...like 6.2-6.5. The nutes will offer the plant all they can in that zone. And yeah...don't give em those recommended hero doses of ferts. It's a slow and steady game. If yer gonna push it...wait til flower. Even then...less is always more. And if it was me....I'd try tap water and bag the RO for a grow. It takes all the minors out of the water. (possibly causing problems?) Just a thought.

Anywayz....we struggled for a few grows at my buddy's place until we figured out we were seeing severe lockout after about 8 weeks or so due to the high pH. Got a pen. Bought pH down. Religiously tracked it every watering and checked runoff as well. After that, things leveled out.

I hope you can nail the problem. Just gonna have to ride the ride and see. Like was said above...you can't make multiple changes or you'll never figure out what is wrong. Best of luck!
Thanks for chiming in, seriously. So quick rundown I'm sure u saw my water was shit from tap. Ran half dozen runs n same ending, which is why the switch to ro. Mixing w tap n evening it out. I religiously use a bluelab and ph to 6.5 or less goin in. Was on flora trio using about 1/2 recommended dose. So when it would go to shit I'd chk runoff. Have ppm of over 2k and ph under 5. I'm fkn something up somewhere, not too proud to admit it.
Hence the dolomite to hopefully help stabilize ph. Calmag since I'm using partial ro now. Another grower here sshz I think? Uses botanicare as I do now and says very low in calcium so he really pours the calmag to em w ro.
So it's a learning game and I'm glad u chimed in along w everyone else that has. I don't forsee issues until mid flower as always. I will do weekly updates n pics to keep everyone in the loop.
 

dirtball

Member
Thanks for chiming in, seriously. So quick rundown I'm sure u saw my water was shit from tap. Ran half dozen runs n same ending, which is why the switch to ro. Mixing w tap n evening it out. I religiously use a bluelab and ph to 6.5 or less goin in. Was on flora trio using about 1/2 recommended dose. So when it would go to shit I'd chk runoff. Have ppm of over 2k and ph under 5. I'm fkn something up somewhere, not too proud to admit it.
Hence the dolomite to hopefully help stabilize ph. Calmag since I'm using partial ro now. Another grower here sshz I think? Uses botanicare as I do now and says very low in calcium so he really pours the calmag to em w ro.
So it's a learning game and I'm glad u chimed in along w everyone else that has. I don't forsee issues until mid flower as always. I will do weekly updates n pics to keep everyone in the loop.
I agree also w outdoor loading things up. I mean I've poured double the recommended dose, daily on 95 degree days, 95% humidity, sun just brighter than any imaginable light...and perfection. Minus a few mites or whatever. This indoor is killing me. Fkn weird
 

shnkrmn

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I agree also w outdoor loading things up. I mean I've poured double the recommended dose, daily on 95 degree days, 95% humidity, sun just brighter than any imaginable light...and perfection. Minus a few mites or whatever. This indoor is killing me. Fkn weird
I have a couple outdoor plants this year. I never grow outdoors, but whatever. So I figure watering them from my indoor reservoir is going to be fine, right? But no! My 880ppm indoor soup leaves my outdoor plants pale and spotted. It's the difference between the sun and a growlight. Indoor is best for me. I'm sticking with what I know.
 

dirtball

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I have a couple outdoor plants this year. I never grow outdoors, but whatever. So I figure watering them from my indoor reservoir is going to be fine, right? But no! My 880ppm indoor soup leaves my outdoor plants pale and spotted. It's the difference between the sun and a growlight. Indoor is best for me. I'm sticking with what I know.
Wow! That shocks me. I can't lose outdoor. Straight from the hose at 600ppm or rain water in the field. Doesn't matter. Shit rocks every time. In my guerilla grows I might set em end of May, sneak in about September for a boost kicker n not come back till 1st of Oct. Smell em 100' away at 2am, pitch black and the adrenaline RUNS!!! God what a rush! I'm older now, those days are over but sure were fun
 
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