Oregon

Bublonichronic said:

I can't believe a club would ask for a front, I don't even like fronting friends lol

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Couple key things that have been touched upon that I agree with & shall add to.
Never front a club, even the most reputable are wolves in sheep's clothing.
Take the initiative and get your meds tested yourself. It's much easier on both parties & streamlines everything if you come in with a product that's already gone through the appropriate channels.
Establish a relationship once you find a legit shop.
NEVER accept less than you know your meds are worth & don't feel afraid to walk out laughing @ the shop for an absurd offer.
Fwiw, most clubs I've talked to fall at 1200-1600 for outdo & 1800-2200 indoor. HOWEVER, I've talked to a buddy who owns a shop in Eugene recently. Given the increase in sales that rec has provided has led to him paying out more to farmers with the best meds. These are the type of guys you need to be looking for. Currently he is willing to do up to 2500 for top shelf opposed to the normal max of 22.

rekoj0916 said:

Couple key things that have been touched upon that I agree with & shall add to.
Never front a club, even the most reputable are wolves in sheep's clothing.
Take the initiative and get your meds tested yourself. It's much easier on both parties & streamlines everything if you come in with a product that's already gone through the appropriate channels.
Establish a relationship once you find a legit shop.
NEVER accept less than you know your meds are worth & don't feel afraid to walk out laughing @ the shop for an absurd offer.
Fwiw, most clubs I've talked to fall at 1200-1600 for outdo & 1800-2200 indoor. HOWEVER, I've talked to a buddy who owns a shop in Eugene recently. Given the increase in sales that rec has provided has led to him paying out more to farmers with the best meds. These are the type of guys you need to be looking for. Currently he is willing to do up to 2500 for top shelf opposed to the normal max of 22.

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Ya top shelf growers are getting payed more now…ABOUT FUCKING TIME!…..But as a grower and businessman now you need to remember the people that have stuck with you, and even if you can get $2400 to $2800 now. Its hard to do if you have been working with the people for a while, we had a friend from our group go to a place that gave him $2800 on a spot. He still has not been payed and came back home to us. When this all sort of settles down we need to push for farmers markets or action houses. If you think about it? Its how every comity is sold, even in Holland they bid on the flowers every day. But i guess thats what a whole seller will do. I just thought of this…so now we will have whole sellers looking for bud also…good time to be grower.

at OP

If anything the most solid answer is iffy....

The commercial side looks like they will go with a canopy requirement and plant count on the med side.

One interesting thing is two sets of sentences about what constitutes an actual "plant". The 2nd newer sentence in the Temp rules says that immature plants, seeds, etc, don't count towards plant count/canopy limit.
Commercially, that will be interesting because there seems to be a "clone tax" and they have a provision for implementing the use of Metr-C, Colorado's radio collar tag program.
So what constitutes a clone or an immature plant? That isn't addressed from what I have read.......

Fees, fees and more fees are gonna create tons of overhead...only the able will be able to compete....Would be nice if we could fight for a Farmer's Market provision for the smaller grower who still wants to commercialize...

I estimate you better be pulling 50k a month at least just to do deal with your bills and another 50k set aside for each month to equal a year, to ride shit out.

What if you wanted to just do a clone only store-front...You would have to something like 5K clones a month just to break even for a brick and mortar.

The regulations take away some creativity from a money standpoint....at least.

Abiqua said:

at OP

If anything the most solid answer is iffy....

The commercial side looks like they will go with a canopy requirement and plant count on the med side.

One interesting thing is two sets of sentences about what constitutes an actual "plant". The 2nd newer sentence in the Temp rules says that immature plants, seeds, etc, don't count towards plant count/canopy limit.
Commercially, that will be interesting because there seems to be a "clone tax" and they have a provision for implementing the use of Metr-C, Colorado's radio collar tag program.
So what constitutes a clone or an immature plant? That isn't addressed from what I have read.......

Fees, fees and more fees are gonna create tons of overhead...only the able will be able to compete....Would be nice if we could fight for a Farmer's Market provision for the smaller grower who still wants to commercialize...

I estimate you better be pulling 50k a month at least just to do deal with your bills and another 50k set aside for each month to equal a year, to ride shit out.

What if you wanted to just do a clone only store-front...You would have to something like 5K clones a month just to break even for a brick and mortar.

The regulations take away some creativity from a money standpoint....at least.

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you had better have a lot more then $50k to get started. Because all we are doing the first two years is under cut every one to weed out the small guys, we have already put aside the money for it. And are talking to a few other small growers like us to co/op with.

john rickman said:

you had better have a lot more then $50k to get started. Because all we are doing the first two years is under cut every one to weed out the small guys, we have already put aside the money for it. And are talking to a few other small growers like us to co/op with.

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agree John, read it again...I am saying when you 1st start, you better pull 50k gross sales at least every month AND have a 600k nest egg set aside [50k x12 months], 50k for each month set aside to equal a year....besides all other costs.

I get the game...the money guys will push out smaller producers...at first. The big growers will not be able to match Top-Shelf quality and tax demands and making a profit...eventually if the big growers get their way, it will be a race to the bottom just like every other Agricultural product out there...maybe then the smaller grower will rebound with less regulations and higher quality. Smaller profit margins, but less overhead as well....Just a theory, nothing is ever set in stone

The only thing that will save small growers is farmers markets, growing the best will help but no one seems to want to pay for better bud, you just sale yours first but not for more.

john rickman said:

The only thing that will save small growers is farmers markets, growing the best will help but no one seems to want to pay for better bud, you just sale yours first but not for more.

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Wait...weren't you one agreeing with the state imposed regulations and with the sentiment "Get with the times"...all the while using the Landscape Maintenance argument? What a bad bad example....It is correct about the Landscape Contractor status, which Oregon has nearly the toughest out of all 50 states....
but...for example I could take 7 hours of remedial learning plus the 2 hour test and whammy!...I have a General Contractor's license and I can build an entire house for a customer at this point. Anyone.

The state is soon going to find that the artificial market works like all artificial markets. They don't. Farmer market's might save some of the smaller growers. But how about the 11th Amendment and Equal protections? A dba in the state of Oregon is $50 for one year from the Secretary of State. That's a better contrast in how far the state is fucking us and when people are saying something about it, they are threatened with being railroaded. Oregon is great. But its home.

Abiqua said:

Wait...weren't you one agreeing with the state imposed regulations and with the sentiment "Get with the times"...all the while using the Landscape Maintenance argument? What a bad bad example....It is correct about the Landscape Contractor status, which Oregon has nearly the toughest out of all 50 states....
but...for example I could take 7 hours of remedial learning plus the 2 hour test and whammy!...I have a General Contractor's license and I can build an entire house for a customer at this point. Anyone.

The state is soon going to find that the artificial market works like all artificial markets. They don't. Farmer market's might save some of the smaller growers. But how about the 11th Amendment and Equal protections? A dba in the state of Oregon is $50 for one year from the Secretary of State. That's a better contrast in how far the state is fucking us and when people are saying something about it, they are threatened with being railroaded. Oregon is great. But its home.

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….Not me, I'm not a landscaper I'm a pot grower