xtsho
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That's exactly why I started growing it. You can't have prime rib without it. Although I still keep some Beaver horseradish on hand in case I don't feel like digging and grinding it up myself.
Oregon outdoor 2019
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Humanrob
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My autos are starting to stink big time! Sometimes I can smell them from the other side of the yard. Two edged sword -- I love the smell but if I can smell them, so can everyone else. We've been ripped off once, I would hate to have that happen again.
I probably have a few more weeks to go, and then this season will be over. With the netting on, I can't take a decent picture of the plants, so this has been the least photographed grow I've ever done. It's also by far been the lowest maintenance, I've only taken the net off to physically access them a couple of times and the watering is all from a drip system. Another experiment in what is becoming a long line of them, hopefully this one is successful and repeatable.
I hope all of your grows are going well!
I probably have a few more weeks to go, and then this season will be over. With the netting on, I can't take a decent picture of the plants, so this has been the least photographed grow I've ever done. It's also by far been the lowest maintenance, I've only taken the net off to physically access them a couple of times and the watering is all from a drip system. Another experiment in what is becoming a long line of them, hopefully this one is successful and repeatable.
I hope all of your grows are going well!
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BlazinDucks
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My garden is crazy. My cannabis is so so. The sundae driver is looking great but a shorter than I had hoped for at this point. The black cherry cheesecake is hiding behind the massive tomatoes. It's sun is becoming more limited and it's showing. I recently trimmed out all the inside branches that aren't getting light on both plants. They took well to it and have continued to get bushier.
The sundae driver will definitely need some defoliation from here on out. Im excited to see how much they stretch and then get more netting in there. All in all I'm happy with the garden. No real issues at this point other than spacing with the surrounding jungle of tomatoes.
The sundae driver will definitely need some defoliation from here on out. Im excited to see how much they stretch and then get more netting in there. All in all I'm happy with the garden. No real issues at this point other than spacing with the surrounding jungle of tomatoes.
Humanrob
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Well, this experiment went sideways. The primary point of going all autos was to avoid the fall rains, but this summer it rained just about every week. My plants are about a week or two from finish, and there is bud rot everywhere. I climbed in under the netting and took some pictures this morning. I will say the netting seems to have worked, I see no worms anywhere... although the bud rot leaves the plants looking like there were worms.
The Good...
The little one that stayed about 6" tall for two months, ended out pretty, if not productive.
Alien v. Triangle "special" pheno, had some nice potential
The Bad...
Foxtailing
and not great second growth -- in other words, the initial hairs were turning and now it's producing a second set of new ones. I've had this happen in the past, I'm not really sure what causes it. In the end I'll cut it when the trichomes tell me to and ignore the rest.
The UGLY...
Bud rot
And it looks like this mold-killed leaf is flipping me off... (that's the Alien v Triangle)
So that's it for my 2019 summer outdoor grow. I'll see what I can get from them, but mold spreads fast, so unless somehow I get lucky and there's no more rain, I expect that they'll mostly rot out before they finish.
The Good...
The little one that stayed about 6" tall for two months, ended out pretty, if not productive.
Alien v. Triangle "special" pheno, had some nice potential
The Bad...
Foxtailing
and not great second growth -- in other words, the initial hairs were turning and now it's producing a second set of new ones. I've had this happen in the past, I'm not really sure what causes it. In the end I'll cut it when the trichomes tell me to and ignore the rest.
The UGLY...
Bud rot
And it looks like this mold-killed leaf is flipping me off... (that's the Alien v Triangle)
So that's it for my 2019 summer outdoor grow. I'll see what I can get from them, but mold spreads fast, so unless somehow I get lucky and there's no more rain, I expect that they'll mostly rot out before they finish.
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Trickortreat18
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Mid to late October in Grants Pass area.
graying.geek
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@Humanrob, damn, Man, tough break on your weather. We've been enjoying 85'F weather here in the mid-valley, so I had no idea you were still getting moisture in the gorge. Bummer.
If it's any consolation, my Durban Poisons have gone sideways as well. Following conventional wisdom and advice from our Extension Office and Master Gardners, I mulched around my girls with coffee grounds that I'd picked up from the familiar Starbucks bin. 2 Days later they were watered in during my weekly watering. The next day, all my tops look like this:
and they remain like that for the past week. All young leaves are "cupped" and growth has stopped. Extensive google research has yielded little in the way of real science on the actual effects of coffee grounds -- or of specific concern, caffeine -- on plants, but there is some strong evidence that coffee grounds in the garden is not a good idea.
My 2 Durbans are most severely affected. I've tried removing the top inch of soil, flushing, ACT, etc., but nothing seems to help. Right now, I'm expecting to lose both plants, and *maybe* get a small yield from the remaining 2 plants that aren't thriving, but seem to be doing OK.
Anywho, if anyone has any suggestions on how to treat this, I'm all ears.
If it's any consolation, my Durban Poisons have gone sideways as well. Following conventional wisdom and advice from our Extension Office and Master Gardners, I mulched around my girls with coffee grounds that I'd picked up from the familiar Starbucks bin. 2 Days later they were watered in during my weekly watering. The next day, all my tops look like this:
and they remain like that for the past week. All young leaves are "cupped" and growth has stopped. Extensive google research has yielded little in the way of real science on the actual effects of coffee grounds -- or of specific concern, caffeine -- on plants, but there is some strong evidence that coffee grounds in the garden is not a good idea.
My 2 Durbans are most severely affected. I've tried removing the top inch of soil, flushing, ACT, etc., but nothing seems to help. Right now, I'm expecting to lose both plants, and *maybe* get a small yield from the remaining 2 plants that aren't thriving, but seem to be doing OK.
Anywho, if anyone has any suggestions on how to treat this, I'm all ears.
Backyard dirt
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I've only heard of coffee grounds as an addition to the compost pile. I had a similar experience with wood ash. I poured some on a portion of my garden and the subsequent plants were stunted and off color. In that case I realized the pH of wood ash is quite high. I don't know if pH is a problem with coffee grounds. and then there is this I just found..https://curiosity.com/topics/whatever-you-do-dont-put-coffee-grounds-in-your-garden-curiosity/
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graying.geek
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Yup, I found the same link, right after this one:
https://extension.oregonstate.edu/gardening/techniques/coffee-grounds-composting
which is touts the benefits of coffee grounds as a fertilizer,mulch or slug repellent, all of which are in question. It seems to be more folk wisdom that no one has bothered to test.
I initially thought it might be pH also, but most current literature dispels the myth that used coffee grounds are highly acidic. They haven't been found to significantly impact the soil pH, and a soil slurry test of my garden soil came out at pH 6.3, which is just about right.
Humanrob
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It didn't rain in volume at any particular point, but it rained enough to soak them, and it did that with unusual frequency for an Oregon summer. I think the netting also held onto the moisture after the rain ended, and I'd try to shake it out, but it may have dripped droplets over a longer time onto the plants keeping them wet. Also, I had concurrent experiments going, and it's possible that the drip irrigation was over-watering them. Too much water will cause them to transpire more, making mold more likely. We ended out taking down 3 of the 4 today and hanging them. Damn, the garage smells awesome.
We ended out with about 60% of the total production, I'd estimate (20% lost to mold, 20% to not being fully developed because they came down early), but since they were harvested too soon I'm not sure how it'll smoke. The last one still in the ground shows no mold, so we'll let it finish naturally. I cut off the water to it, I'll hand water it if it looks like it needs it. The whole thing looks like it'll add up to maybe half a pound if we're lucky.
That sucks about your coffee experiment, I've had years where I did things out of balance or took the wrong advice and had cannabis and/or veggies suffer. The only time I've put coffee grounds around a plant is with Blueberries, and I can't really say if it did anything good or bad. I've also read that the acidity thing is a myth, but that was a year after I was told to put it around the Blueberries. I've found that after a good long winter, the soil has usually corrected itself and I get a fresh start the following spring.
graying.geek
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You could'a fooled me. Our weather in the valley has be amazingly dry and pleasant.
Yeah, if it'd been an experiment, I'd be more accepting. But screwing up by following the recommendations of the "experts" makes the experience pretty bitter medicine. Still not positive it was the coffee grounds, but it's the only change to the plants' environment that I can point to. I'm thinking I'll put some clones in a few pots and set up a controlled test. But that's for next summer. Now I've gotta figure out how to stretch my supply until my next indoor harvest in December if this outdoor grow continues to crash.: said:
Humanrob
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We're in one of those infamous "micro-climates", where in the winter we get an ice storm and a mile south of us they got nothing, and even in the summer being near the gorge and the foothills of Mt. Hood, things are different here. There was more than one occasion this summer when the weather said zero percent chance of rain, and we'd wake up to everything being soaked. Other times it would just be a brief drizzle, but it was enough to get the buds wet. I've lived at this location for 5 years, it's the first summer this has happened. As I mentioned before, I look for the bright side and at least it's been a mellow fire season. We were next in line for evacuation for those gorge fires two summers ago.
Yup, that is a bitter pill. There is always some risk getting stuff from outside sources. I knew people in Eugene who would get truckloads of leaves delivered from the city that were taken up by street sweepers in the fall, and through the grapevine some reported issues with contaminants of unknown sources. I've also heard that some of the large local compost makers that take in yard debris from landscapers, can end out composting material that was killed with herbicides that may or may not break down, leaving their compost somewhat toxic to plants. Most coffee places are pretty good about keeping trash and cleaners out of the used coffee grounds so that gardeners can use them, at least they're trying.
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Sir Napsalot
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I'm only growing 2 plants this year, a Blackcherry Cheesecake and a Chernobyl in 15gal. pots using NFTG nutrients. I've been kind of lazy this year and haven't been hauling them out to the backyard every day to maximize the sunlight so they've only been getting ~7 hours of direct sunlight on the patio. I just got finished trimming out a lot of little interior bud sites on the BCC and opening up the interior of the plant a bit for better airflow. Haven't had any problems so far, they're vegging along nicely.
BCC:
Chernobyl:
Good luck to all my Oregon friends!
BCC:
Chernobyl:
Good luck to all my Oregon friends!
graying.geek
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Sweet looking shrubs. Started flowering yet?
Sir Napsalot
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It should be a couple more weeks before they start flowering
BlazinDucks
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Mine have been moving along. The black cherry cheesecake is being blocked for half the day by the damn tomatoes. The sundae driver is hanging in there, it's getting most of the days light. I started giving them the grow and trinity from roots organic a couple weeks ago. No flowering yet but hoping it hits soon. I'm used to having plants I have to look up to. These are definitely the opposite. I can blame that on the indica dominant strains, and the big damn tomato plants blocking out light.I am only doing 2 plants this year. It has been a rough summer as I had Prostate Cancer surgery in June and then developed a DVT in my leg and a Pulmonary Embolism in my lungs and had to go back into the hospital for a week. I left the plants in the care of my wife while I was recovering. She did a great job with them.
The first one below is Oldtime Indiana Bubblegum from Mosca Seeds and the second one is Blue Kali from Moonflower Gardens. They were started from seed middle of April grown under lights until middle of June. I've got them in 20 gal pots using Aurora 707 soil and Fox Farms trio once a week,
Oldtime Indiana Bubblegum
Blue Kali
The first one below is Oldtime Indiana Bubblegum from Mosca Seeds and the second one is Blue Kali from Moonflower Gardens. They were started from seed middle of April grown under lights until middle of June. I've got them in 20 gal pots using Aurora 707 soil and Fox Farms trio once a week,
Oldtime Indiana Bubblegum
Blue Kali
graying.geek
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ORGY!!! My shemale (STS treated) Durban Poison had a 3-way with another DP and a couple of hybrids this morning. It wasn't pretty. Turned on the fan, flicked the male branch, and the tent was full of pollen. A few more weeks and a few hundred seeds will be dropping off the buds. I'm hoping for some genetic stability in the DP F2s, but we'll see.
thumper60
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weird almost looks like russet mite damage.
graying.geek
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Yeah, I thought the same. But it happened on all bud sites over night, and a scope of the leaves showed no critters.
graying.geek
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So I've ended up with 3 healthy clones for which I have no use. It pains me to toss them into the compost pile so if anyone has any suggestions, or if any other mid-valley growers are interested in freebies, let me know. There's a Northern Lights, Jorge's Diamonds and a Durban Poison that I plan to take cuttings from in a couple of weeks for my fall hydro grow.
