One man and his bush - 1 plant SCROG in Stealth Cab - Chocolate Berry

legallyflying

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air pots actually work very well. So does letting your soil get pretty bone dry between watering.

you have to understand that plant roots, when moisture stressed, send out more roots. that is why air pruning and fabric pots work so well. Plants actually don't like moist soil. Only wetland plants have adaptations to thrive in saturated and anaerobic (lack of air) soils. Their roots can absorb nutrients in the high redox environment of saturated and reduced soils. Reduced meaning that there is soo little oxygen that iron and manganese concentrations are actually fixed by anaerobic bacteria. If you ever dug up wetland soil and witnessed that it is light grey or really dark black with orange spots in it you know what i am talking about.

In general, the more air in your planting medium the better. this is the principal reason why hydroponic and aeroponic plants see such increased growth rates and yield.
 

kana

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Thanks very much, always appreciated. It's time consuming but fun, and u learn a lot about how the plants grow by being so hands on so go for it! Throw up some pics if u feel like showin me what ur workin with
no problem, i know ive always wanted to try this method out, but in the growing world u always come across different methods you wana try. I currently been doing 12/12 from seed so after these ill start and probz make a journal so ill defo keep u posted m8
 

BigBudzzzz

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make it rain? i really couldnt see any difference but i dont think i know what im looking for can someone please explain?
You didnt see a diff in my vid? Im being honest when you seen the part where it said the next day that was actually 12 hours later. Seriously my plants grew an inch in 12 hours and today it looks like they have grown additiona inch! Its worth it, tell you what when the lights come on Im going to take another vid and stream it into this one and we'll see how much its grow in the last 48 hours and you can judge foryourself. I have been growing these plants for awhile and for them to pop up like that is totally out of characture. Read the link and it will make total sense as to why it works. But if i cant sell you at least let my plants speak for themselves, ok?
 

forgetiwashere

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You didnt see a diff in my vid? Im being honest when you seen the part where it said the next day that was actually 12 hours later. Seriously my plants grew an inch in 12 hours and today it looks like they have grown additiona inch! Its worth it, tell you what when the lights come on Im going to take another vid and stream it into this one and we'll see how much its grow in the last 48 hours and you can judge foryourself. I have been growing these plants for awhile and for them to pop up like that is totally out of characture. Read the link and it will make total sense as to why it works. But if i cant sell you at least let my plants speak for themselves, ok?
maybe take some pictures from the exact same spot or something i think with the video its too hard to notice an inch of growth. its easy to spot on your own plants because you know them inside out but for an outsider its very hard to spot.
 

lilindian

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I suppose you've grown in 'regular' pots? Is the difference between regular pots and Air Pots that big?
I'm using an Air Pot myself and I'm damned pleased with it but it's my first grow so I can't compare it to anything.
Yeh i've only used regular pots in the past and have always had issues with roots outgrowing pots. This is the main reason i began using air pots, as they're meant to eliminate such problems due to their "self air pruning" ways. Also the medium has access to oxygen on all sides as apose to just top and partially at the bottom. Oxygen is key for healthy roots so again, a win for air pots. I've also seen many many grows with people using air pots, after the grow is done, they dismantle the pot and show the root structure and well it looks a little something like this:



Nice and dense. I was sold. I've never done a full grow in an air pot, but you can already see the problems i encountered using a bucket. Check the transplanting post in this thread to see how root bound she was...

Healthier roots = healthier plant = better produce

simple!

air pots actually work very well. So does letting your soil get pretty bone dry between watering.

you have to understand that plant roots, when moisture stressed, send out more roots. that is why air pruning and fabric pots work so well. Plants actually don't like moist soil. Only wetland plants have adaptations to thrive in saturated and anaerobic (lack of air) soils. Their roots can absorb nutrients in the high redox environment of saturated and reduced soils. Reduced meaning that there is soo little oxygen that iron and manganese concentrations are actually fixed by anaerobic bacteria. If you ever dug up wetland soil and witnessed that it is light grey or really dark black with orange spots in it you know what i am talking about.

In general, the more air in your planting medium the better. this is the principal reason why hydroponic and aeroponic plants see such increased growth rates and yield.
U got a botany degree or something? Always droppin in depth knowledge. Glad its finding its way into my thread.

I'm not saying letting the soil dry out doesn't work if your trying to grow a big root system, i'm saying i'd go about it using root stimulants that double up as stress relievers. As i said, each to their own!

Can't say i've ever come across wetland soil but i'll take ur word for it.

no problem, i know ive always wanted to try this method out, but in the growing world u always come across different methods you wana try. I currently been doing 12/12 from seed so after these ill start and probz make a journal so ill defo keep u posted m8
This is true. Got some crazy ideas for future grows off some Bubba Kush i got my hands on today! I've wanted to try 12/12 from seed for a while now, aint had the chance yet but gona get round to doin it soon.
 

CampUnderDog

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I want to play more with scrog and less with 12/12... i love the way your grow looks. Love the airpots too. Think I want to try a few for my next organic grow.
 

lilindian

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Watered her today, looked down and saw "mud", went to grab a wet towel to wipe it up, keep things clean.

Got down on my hands and knees, started to wipe, before realising, this most definitely is not soil! Much too fine, so i went it for a closer look. What did i see?

Not tens

but HUNDREDS of tiny tiny tiny little flies, the smallest flies u could possibly picture. hundreds lay dead at the bottom of my cab, so i quickly checked the sticky trap at soil level and there were about 10 more flies than previously.


I have NO idea where these are coming from but they are multiplying QUICK, i'm guessing they're coming from outside and not breeding somewhere in my room/cab, they've been flying round my room for the past couple of days, just writing this post i've squashed about 5.


Urm, yeh i duno what to do!

Hundreds lay dead, i'm thinking it has something to do with the bar heater i've got in there. I think they came in through my intake, the suffocated in the heat given off by the heater. They have a choice IF they make it through the inline fan, to either stay and suffocate, or get sucked into my RVK! So the ones that make it up top are actually pretty fucking epic!

Anyway at the moment i'm thinking of getting an inline filter for the intake, but have no money. Does any one else have any temporary solutions? Also, what are these flies likely to do to my bud if they get that far in numbers?

The block of bud is most definitely a very likely outcome of this grow, i'll explain why in my next update but i've done some pruning thats had surprising effects (as i've never done this before)
 

CampUnderDog

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Azamax... that shit rocks for pest control, and can be used foliar, or during feeding. The plant adapts and can be used all the way to harvest.
 

lilindian

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all good suggestions, probably gona use a sock for 2nite cos i'm desperate! there are already about a hundred more!

If ive got an infestation somewhere i'm screwed.....
 

lilindian

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make that hundreds.....

they could well be, there are loads flying around the airpot holes..... i'd say tho i can only see like 10 or so around here... but hundreds down below which makes me think they're coming from down there somewhere.

This is so long!! I HATE flies in general with a passion, now ive got an army tormenting me!

I've put a sock over the intake but its blocking a lot of air.... gona see how it affects my temps first before getting it sorted tomorrow.
 

lilindian

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All research so far points to fungas gnats, fuck! These things are very hard to get rid of apparently from what i've quickly come across so far...

Why they're all landing at the bottom i'm not too sure...
 

Dirt Bikin Buds

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All research so far points to fungas gnats, fuck! These things are very hard to get rid of apparently from what i've quickly come across so far...

Why they're all landing at the bottom i'm not too sure...
Yes, they are fungus gnats. I had them in a chameleons cage coming from a plant and they were a pain. They always try to fly up your nose.
 

lilindian

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Yes, they are fungus gnats. I had them in a chameleons cage coming from a plant and they were a pain. They always try to fly up your nose.
Maaaaaaan, these things keep flying around me as i'm sitting here in my room, every time i open the doors the fans blow a whole load out i think. My soil must be crawling with them, i say i've noticed flies for around 4 days now too, didn't think anything of a fly or 2....

I reckon flies are laying eggs all around my pot, through all the holes, not just from on top like in most grows, I see flies flying in and out .. how i'm gona get "Fungus Gnat Off" to penetrate every bit of my soil i don't know... things suddenly aren't looking too good!
 

profgrow

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Fungus gnats are a pain, they are one of the main reasons I no longer run soil grows.

Fox farm makes a spray that works pretty well, just wet the top layer of soil with it for a few days and any reproducing gnats will die as they emerge from or burrow into the soil, the rest can be picked off by the traps. Ph may fluctuate as the dying larve and insects decompose.
 

CampUnderDog

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One way I have found to get rid of any pests in a closed system, would be to drown it in CO2. You can do a do it yourself CO2 boost system with Baking Soda and Vinegar, Sugar and Yeast, or some other CO2 system, and just turn off your exhaust overnight, let your CO2 flood the closed system, and all the pests are dead the next morning, and your plants get a nice shot of CO2 love bright and early when they wake up. Do this over a few days and nothing lives.
 
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