Old School Skunk, who's found it???

Mothball said:

Its a combination of environment and genotype that creat skunk phenos. Bacillus isn't a fertilizer they are naturally occurring wild soil borne bacteria. The wild types of pre-80s have been stomped on by years of commercial strain applications. Many old wild BT strains can be found in ancient deposits. These wild types stimulate plant responses differently than the common commercial BT.
I understand that the US education is broken but this science is not above high school level. Unless your brain is smooth you should study up on cry protiens and their relationship with thiols & sulphur. And if you cannot comprehend then please don't take it as an insult to your smooth brain. I know that can't be helped

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Lol sure bud I understand it I just don't think this is why I think it plays less of a role than you do as does the rest of the older people in this thread you think this bacterium was prevalent in every single soil mix back in the day world wide inside and out ? I doubt it if you know anything about micros then you know there's more than we have catalogued we only just scratching the surface imo genetics plays the biggest role here

@Mothball is that the same bti commonly used for treatment of fungus gnats?
Bacillus thuringiensis israelensis

Bt is an endophytic bacterium, which means it can colonize the internal tissues of plants without causing harm. It can be found in the roots, stems, and leaves of plants, and can be passed on to the next generation through the seeds.

Bacillus thuringiensis strains can be frequently found as an endophytic bacterium in the wild. Which means it gets inside the plants and seeds.

These microbes indirectly affect plant phenotypic plasticity and fitness through modulation of plant development and defense responses. In doing so, "Bt can affect fitness by both increasing or decreasing the degree of phenotypic plasticity, depending on the phenotype and the environmental stress studied".

Phenotypic plasticity refers to some of the changes in a plants behavior, morphology and physiology in response to a unique environment

Mothball said:

Its a combination of environment and genotype that creat skunk phenos. Bacillus isn't a fertilizer they are naturally occurring wild soil borne bacteria. The wild types of pre-80s have been stomped on by years of commercial strain applications. Many old wild BT strains can be found in ancient deposits. These wild types stimulate plant responses differently than the common commercial BT.
I understand that the US education is broken but this science is not above high school level. Unless your brain is smooth you should study up on cry protiens and their relationship with thiols & sulphur. And if you cannot comprehend then please don't take it as an insult to your smooth brain. I know that can't be helped

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No, its not. We grew the stuff for 6 straight years, in every type of soil, and used about every type of fertilizer there was back then.
And we grew it, Inside-Outside. Soilless-Soil. It always smelled, the same.

It smelled like a Skunk, no matter what you did.

We grew it in Potting Soil, Peat Moss, Sphagnum Moss, Regular soil, in
North East Kentucky-
SE Ky
Southern Ohio
Lincoln County Ky-Near Cornbread Mafia. 40 miles from New Haven-Large amounts of Magnesium, and Calcium in soil in central-south central Ky. Bluegrass Region. High in Limestone.

River Bank Soil.
Ohio River
Scioto River
Big Sandy River
Levisa Fork of Big Sandy
Tug fork of Big Sandy.
Cave Run Lake, outside of Morehead Ky
Kentucky River
Tygart Creek-Carter County-Ky
Grayson Lake-Carter Ky

ALL of it smelled like a Skunk, with No Exceptions and we NEVER did anything special to the soil, or the fertilizer used. We used what we had, at the time, which was mainly Miracle Grow-Peters, and individual farm type fertilizers. Miracle grow/Peters were usually 20-20-20.. 15-30-15...5-50-17
46-0-0
0-44-0
0-0-52.
Lime

We never even thought about fertilizer affecting the Skunk attributes. We used, what we had.